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    Default The "F" word.

    I'm afraid to even ask a question about the "F" word on this forum, but I don't know where ask to inquire. Yes, I am interested in... Formula. (ducking to avoid being hit by rocks)

    If this post is too huge, just scroll down to "MY QUESTION IS...." :-)

    First let me say I am a huge supporter of breastfeeding, and my son just completed weaning a few weeks ago, a month shy of turning 3 yrs.

    I am pregnant and gearing up for baby # 2 and the whole nursing/working/pumping effort.

    I had a lot of issues nursing my son in the early months. Nipple pain (scab covered), milk not coming in for weeks, early formula intervention from doctors to overcome and then eliminate, THRUSH THREE TIMES, low supply for months, low pump output --> pumping 7 times a day until he turned 1, post-part-depression, son not sleeping through the night at all until age 1 1/2 yrs. E t c

    With my son I was lucky to have a 4 month leave followed by 6 months of part time before returning to full time work.
    This time around with my upcoming newborn, for financial reasons, my maternity leave will be only 12 weeks, and I'll have to return to work fulltime right away after that. I am also at a new job where the people barely know/trust me yet.
    The idea of pumping 7 times a day every day for 9 months while trying to impress new bosses and fight depression.... I just don't think I can handle it.

    OKAY THAT was all my justification so you can try to not judge me. :-)

    But I thought I could ease my pumping burden by bringing in some formula.
    I.e., plan to pump 3 or 4 times a day maximum, and leave my milk AND formula for the baby. I'm still willing to night-nurse while working full time as well up to the year at least. Although my husband is already strongly opining that I need to plan on getting more sleep this time around to keep my sanity. (and keep the marriage probably!)

    SO MY QUESTION is....

    How can I include formula to ease my burden WITHOUT causing my milk supply to plummet (thus increasing need for formula and causing the balance of BM to FM to shift and end up ending the nursing) ?

    I LIKE nursing (as I just did it for 3 yrs with my son) but I don't think I can mentally handle the burdens coming up for me & my next baby.

    THANKS ALL!

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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    Mama, just because you had low supply the first time absolutely doesn't mean you will this tiime too. I went back to work full time and pumped 3 times in a 9 hour day and had plenty for my baby. If your supply is good and you can pump 3-4 times without a problem, I think you'll be fine. This time around you have 20/20 hindsight and can avoid those inteventions that led you down that slippery slope to low supply etc. KWIM?

    Congratulations on your pregnancy. I hope it all works out for you!
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    Silas born May 2009 ~ Nursed 18 mos, weaned during pregnancy, unweaned at 24 months, still nursing when he feels like it
    Lola born March 2011 ~ The Mary Lou Retton of toddler nursing
    Married to Brandon
    Using cloth on both bums

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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    I went back to work 6wks PP and only pumped 2-3 times a day while at work and managed to provide enough breast milk for him while he was at daycare. I nursed him full time when I was with him and he's still going strong 9mo later.

    I had a lot of issues with nursing my first too, but the second time it was a breeze, perhaps you'll have an easier time as well.

    Don't stress yourself out with all the possibilities. Cross those bridges when/if they come up! You can do it!
    Proud Mama to Noah Michael and Baby Charlie



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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    Thank you ladies! I hope that is true and that maybe things will go differently. I sure as heck know a lot more than I did 3 years ago! I will avoid any formula in the first 3 months at the very least and make sure I have a good latch from the very start as well, and keep up offering & nursing round the clock without trying to do other things around the home as well, etc.

    I would LOVE if just 3 pumps was enough to leave a day's worth of milk but cannot imagine that to be possible. I could only get 2 ounces out of a pump back then.

    I will try to just relax and deal with the immediate situation before planning for every possible problem :-) I just keep feeling overwhelmed at the thought of it all. Esp with zero friends or family around (just moved cross country).

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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    I pump 3X a day at work and have plenty for my baby. It's true - that you may not have supply issues this time around. Perhaps there are things you can do early on to establish your supply and make sure you've got a good pump set up to make pumping easier.

    That being said, if you *did* have to supplement with formula it's not the end of the world. I also think that nobody here would judge you for that - based on my observations of this community.

    Yes, it's a very pro-breastfeeding community, but it's also a very pro-BABY community. Formula has its place and is very useful. If you are able to provide it, some breastmilk is better than none. If you have to use it, cross that bridge when the time comes. But nobody here would judge you for it.

    Here are some links that may be useful to you:

    http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/low-supply.html
    http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/milkproduction.html
    http://www.nbci.ca/index.php?option=...tion&Itemid=17
    http://www.nbci.ca/index.php?option=...tion&Itemid=17
    http://www.nbci.ca/index.php?option=...tion&Itemid=17

    Congrats on your new baby!

    Christine
    Baby Girl Born 2/17/10 to her two mommies
    BF from day one. I looked up one day and realized I'm nursing a toddler!

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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    Well, you will probably still have to pump 3 times a day, for 20 minutes or so at least, each time. And if you don't have enough milk, you can supplement. But I had progressively more milk with each baby, and its common for that to happen.

    Erin
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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    I really don't think there is a way to incorporate formula into the mix without slowly (or even quickly) killing your milk supply. It's simple supply & demand.

    Good luck.
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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*nolamomma View Post
    I really don't think there is a way to incorporate formula into the mix without slowly (or even quickly) killing your milk supply. It's simple supply & demand.

    Good luck.
    Its a Christy sighting!!!! :wave

    Erin
    Wife to a grizzly
    Mama to my little deer (12/05) my loving bear cub (9/07--), and our little tiger (3/22/10)
    Born by one c-section and 2 amazing VBACs


    Miles in 2012: 350.5/900 (Actual Miles Ran: 189)
    Miles in 2011: 708.5 (Actual Miles Ran: 509)
    Miles in 2010: 800.5 (Actual Miles Ran: 620)

    January Miles: 37.5/75
    February Miles: 59/75
    March Miles: 42.5/60
    April Miles: 64
    May Miles: 41/70
    June Miles: 59
    July Miles: 39.5

    227.5 miles on my new shoes
    338 miles on my old shoes

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    Default Re: The "F" word.

    My advice would be to pump once per day starting early (3-4 weeks) to both increase your supply and build a frozen stash for when you go back. If you do it every day you will train your body to make however much milk your baby takes each day +2oz it so, and have a cushion of bm for when you go back. But I agree with pp, no reason to expect you will have the same problems next time! Good luck mama!
    Mom to Taiga born 6/2010

    Pocket cloth diapers. Baby led solids. Full-time working mom. I my DH, DD, kitty Dr. Benway, and my working border collie Odin!
    BF for 1 year and she and I still love it !!!!

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