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Thread: Should I/ Can I relactate? Please help!!!

  1. #11
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    Apr 2010

    Default Re: Should I/ Can I relactate? Please help!!!

    I think it is awsome that you are going to continue to breastfeed! I have been soy and dairy free for 9 months and haven't missed it at all. I just pay more attention to what I eat. It is actually kind of nice.
    I wanted to add that you should probably also take out soy from your diet since you said your son's stools became bloody after the soy formula. Alot of times, babies with dairy intolerances also have soy intolerance. For me soy oil and soy lecithin were ok to eat.

    Good luck building up your supply!!
    Married 9/17/2005
    Mother to Seamus born 3/9/2010 7lbs 9oz Still nursing with no end in sight!
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  2. #12
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    Aug 2008

    Default Re: Should I/ Can I relactate? Please help!!!

    We used an SNS - which is the same thing as a lactaid. I bought the "one time" use one at a store for 18 and took really really good care of it/sterilizing it. etc. It really works! We went on to nurse for 2.5more years
    Jaxon (07/13/08) weaned at 27 months
    Alexa and Braxton (11/18/10). My NICU miracles.


    "This above all: to thine own self be true" -Hamlet

  3. #13
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    Oct 2010

    Default Re: Should I/ Can I relactate? Please help!!!

    I just spent an hour writing a post and the system lost it! I am an adoptive mom of six and spent a total of about ten years nursing. I have also been involved in helping many other moms. Induced lactation and relactating for a bio child who is still an infant are similar, except the relactating mom can usually build a milk supply faster. Where you are still producing a little bit, and your baby is willing to latch on and suck, I am sure you can do it!

    I understand the feeling of being obsessed with wanting to breastfeed your baby. That is how I was. What have you done in the past week? I was thinking that this time of year may not be the best to go all out on this, but the busiest time will be over soon. It would be nice is your older kids could help you out more.

    I think nursing with the Lact-Aid is the easiest way to get a milk supply going. If you get an SNS, that is OK. Most moms who have to use a supplementer on a regular basis for quite a while prefer the Lact-Aid. Just order it off of their site www.lact-aid.com The Lact-Aid is the original nursing supplementer and has been around for over 40 years now. I will be forever grateful, because I wouldn't have been able to nurse my kids without it. If you get an SNS, I suggest using the smallest tubing. The larger ones don't require the baby to suck very hard, so they are really best for when a baby has a weak suck or something like that.

    Domperidone is very helpful, in most cases, but it wasn't available to me when I was nursing my kids, so it certainly isn't essential. There are lots of herbs. The one I used the most of was fenugreek. I have a hard time swallowing capsules, so I made tea from the seeds. Oatmeal is helpful with milk production, too. Another trick is to pump the other breast while the baby is nursing. That was the only way I could ever pump more than a dribble. With the hands-free bras that they have now, you can even have both of your hands free.

    Also, you don't have to produce all of the milk he needs in order to be beneficial, to both you and him. Go ahead and try whatever you want to, but don't put too much pressure on yourself because that can work against you.

    Best wishes to you!


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    Regarding OP's statement: "By then, I had researched soy formula, and was very upset about how dangerous it is."

    Please let me in on what you found out? My pediatrician told me that soy was perfectly safe. My son has been eating it for 2 months.

  5. #15
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    Jan 2009

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*mominsd524 View Post
    Regarding OP's statement: "By then, I had researched soy formula, and was very upset about how dangerous it is."

    Please let me in on what you found out? My pediatrician told me that soy was perfectly safe. My son has been eating it for 2 months.

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    Even though around 25 percent of formula-fed American babies take some form of soy formula, we recommend that parents begin their baby on a standard cow's milk-based formula unless advised otherwise by their doctor. Soy formulas became popular as an alternative formula in infants who are allergic to cow's milk. Some babies are less allergic to the soy protein than to cow's milk protein. Yet, we have the following reservations about soy formulas:

    Even though soy-based artificial baby milks may be less allergenic for some babies, between 30 and 50 percent of infants who are allergic to cow's milk are also allergic to soy.
    There is no precedent in nature for feeding young mammals a plant-based protein. In the early 1970s it was discovered that soy proteins are deficient in some amino acids that babies need. For this reason, methionine, carnitine, and taurine have to be added from other sources. Not only is soy protein deficient in some amino acids because plant protein in general does not provide the same growth equivalent as animal protein, but more needs to be added so that soy formulas have a higher level of this protein to make up for its lesser quality. According to the amino acid profile, at least in All-Soy, there is no carnitine or taurine. Even though current biochemical knowledge has fixed some of the previous problems with soy protein for babies, we are still tampering with Mother Nature's recipe, leading us to conclude that feeding soy protein to growing babies is still experimental. Plant protein is a good protein for older infants and adults, but the protein made by big mammals for little mammals is ideal for babies.
    Another problem with soy is that the protein itself contains phytates, substances that bind calcium and phosphorus. To prevent calcium deficiencies and consequent deficiencies in bone mineralization, the calcium content of soy formulas is generally 20 to 30 percent higher than the calcium content of milk- based formulas.
    These phytates also bind iron and zinc. As a result of this finding, artificial soy baby milks, such as Carnation, Allsoy, and Mead Johnson's Prosobee, have added extra iron and zinc. Isomil's Soy formula (made by Ross Laboratories) does not have more zinc or iron than the company's cow's-based formulas. Studies done by Ross Laboratories show that the blood-mineral profile of babies on cow's milk and soy formulas are no different.
    In 1996 the Committee on Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics voiced some concern about the relatively high content of aluminum in soy-based formulas and the possible toxicity to infants. Although the American Academy of Pediatrics concluded that the elevated aluminum levels in some soy formulas do not seem to be harmful for term infants, the fact is no one really knows. Because of this worry and studies showing less bone mineralization in preterm infants on soy formula, the Committee of Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics recommended that soy formula be reserved for term infants and not be used for preterm or small-for-date infants.
    Soy formula was once routinely recommended for infants with a family history of milk allergy in hopes of preventing allergies from developing. Research has failed to support the idea that starting a newborn on soy formula will decrease the later incidence of allergy. Also, recent research has disproven the belief that babies are less colicky with soy formulas. Studies comparing cow's milk- based and soy formula showed that soy formula does not lower the risk of infant colic. For this reason, the Committee on Nutrition of the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends against the use of soy formulas in the routine management of colic or in infants who are potentially allergic to cow's milk. Instead of soy, hypoallergenic formulas are recommended.
    Giving an infant soy in the early months before intestinal closure may predispose the infant to soy allergies later on. Since soy is used as a filler in so many foods in the American diet, this is a serious concern.
    Soy formulas contain around 33 percent more sodium than standard cow's milk- based formulas, and formulas in general are saltier than human milk. It is nutritionally unwise to shape young palates to get accustomed to salty tastes. It's unwise to give a baby a salty formula unless absolutely necessary.
    Carbohydrate sources in soy formulas are even more of a concern. Just as there is a whey war going on between formula companies, there now seems to be a sugar war, too. Enfamil now advertises "no table sugar" in their soy formula, Prosobee, so they use corn syrup instead of sucrose. Does this make a big difference? Some nutritionists might prefer plain old table sugar to corn syrup. Corn itself is an allergen, and corn syrup is very sweet.
    Because soy formulas are made with bean "milk" and not cow's milk, they are naturally lactose-free. The problem is that lactose is the sugar in human milk and in the milk of all other mammals. There is no basis in nature for feeding mammals lactose-free milk. Lactose is an intestinal-friendly sugar, enhancing calcium absorption and helping to colonize those little intestines with favorable bacteria. While the "lactose-free" nature of soy formulas benefit infants who are congenitally lactose intolerant (which is really quite rare in the first year of life), this is really tampering with Mother Nature. Because soy does not contain lactose, soy formulas are often recommended for infants who develop a temporary lactase deficiency following an intestinal infection. Studies as to whether or not this helps show mixed results. The American Academy of Pediatrics does not recommend the routine use of soy formulas in infants recovering from diarrhea, but suggests they be used only in babies shown to be temporarily intolerant of cow's milk-based formulas.
    Our conclusion: Unless recommended otherwise by your baby's doctor, soy formulas:

    Should not be routinely used in infants with a family history of milk allergy in hopes of preventing later allergy.
    Should not be as a substitute for cow's milk-based formulas unless baby has been proven to be allergic to cow's milk-based formulas.
    Should not be used to prevent or treat "colic" unless advised by your doctor.
    Should not be used in preterm or small-for-date babies.
    Even though we discourage the use of soy formula as a first-choice artificial baby milk, in some babies it is a necessary alternative to cow's milk-based formulas. Many of the objections to soy formula are perhaps more theoretical than practical (since studies have shown that healthy term babies grow just as well on soy as they do on cow's-milk-based formulas). It's what we do not know about soy that concerns us. The soy bean protein brings along with it a lot of other phytochemicals (plant nutrients), some of which may be healthful, and others we just don't know about. Cow's-milk-based formulas have been around for nearly a century. We don't have that much experience with soy, so be cautious.

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