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    Exclamation 3 month old eats for 2 minutes

    Okay...I have been trying to wait this out and see if I can find a pattern. My 3 month old is not eating as he normally does!

    The last 3 nights he has slept basically through the night (11pm-5am). Usually he wakes up at 1 and 3, so he has dropped 2 feedings.

    Then he will do one good nurse at 5. Then at 7 he wines like he is hungry, I offer it to him, he suck for a minute or so and then as soon as I have let-down, he gets mad! Then he turns his head away and just stares. If I try to turn his head back, he cries. So I let him stare for a few minutes then he will turn his head back on his own and suck for another minute then sort of get milk everywhere and get mad again. I realize I have OALD and have tried block feeding, which worked. This is a new thing...can my let-down all of a sudden get OA again?

    I feel like he is starving but too mad at my milk to eat. He is happy right now, but it is almost 9:30 and he has only had 2 minutes of milk. I keep offering the same side but he won't take it.

    Also, when I pump I can get 4oz in like 8 minutes, so I know he doesn't need to eat for long to get all his milk...but he is just not eating at all it seems!!

    Finally, he is still having lots of diapers, but I don't understand where it is coming from He only eats for 2 minutes!!!

    Any suggestions would be great! Thank you in advance!!

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    I am posting this back up because I am hoping someone can help me!!

    Okay. LO is eating only on the left side!! He will not eat on the right and it is very frustrating to me. He turns his head and stares...if I try to tilt his head towards me, he loses it!! So I tried facing the other way on the bed (head where the feet go) incase something was distracting me. That did not work! As soon as I offer him the left, he eats away like a ravenous wolf. Right side...NO WAY!! What do I do??? I tried to lie on my left side and kind-of put my right boob into his mouth so he thought he was eating from the left...that worked for about 2 minutes and then he was mad and crying again.

    Also, I notice the milk just sprays out of the right, like when I have let-down, it comes out like a waterfall and he is sputtering a bit. Is that why he hates that side? How do I get him to eat on the right???? How can I slow the flow on that side???

    Please advise!! Any ideas would be great.

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    Default Re: 3 month old eats for 2 minutes

    I also have OALD and it does get worse if I'm engorged, which I'm guessing is what is happening to you with him skipping a couple of feedings. Have you tried letting it spray after your let down (into a diaper) and then having him nurse? Or, have you tried pumping a bit to relieve some of the pressure first?

    Changes in nursing patterns are so frustrating. Hopefully things will go back to normal as quickly as this started.

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    It does sound like you have an OALD, and you mentioned pumping. I would say stop the pumping altogether unless it is absolutely necessary. You need to work on getting your supply down and pumping will only increase your supply. You said that you have been block feeding? For how long? It could take several days to see any improvement. Here are some sites that may help you:


    LLL Oversupply
    Forceful Letdown

    Good luck!

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    [QUOTE=I-Man's Momma;67036] Have you tried letting it spray after your let down (into a diaper) and then having him nurse? [QUOTE]

    No, I will try that. Thank you for the responses. I somehow missed this as an idea...its funny how you can find help for other people's problems, but then when you have a problem it seems like there is nothing out there for you!!

    I have also not pumped for a few days. When I block feed, I do it for 2-3 nurses on the same side. I am worried that it will stimulate over supply in one breast if I do it more. Is that possible? I am just feeling frustrated. And Wyatt does NOT like to comfort nurse! Maybe its my fault because I give him a soother. But when he is done he takes his mouth off the boob and fusses, but refuses to take the boob back. As soon as I give him a soothie his little eyes roll back into his head in ecstacy...

    One more question, I eat oatmeal for breakfast because I like it...should I stop for now?? Maybe that is a dumb question I just don't know what to do...but I did read those articles and they are helpful. I will try to block feed longer on each side...maybe 3-4 nurses?? THere is more than enough milk to do that...

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    OALD and oversupply is my guess. Have you read any of the other threads on this? These are some that have some really great information, including a ton of great links (one that I posted that was the most helpful to me was listening to this podcast on oversupply/OALD):

    http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?t=5410

    http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?t=6805

    The eating for two minutes, spraying when baby comes off, really good wet diaper output despite short feedings ... all of that sounds really familiar to me! I wouldn't recommend pumping before feedings ... that will just make your problem worse. A not very good LC told me to do this and it caused a major oversupply issue. It eventually led to nursing strikes. Our strikes started with her refusing only one side ... I later discovered it was because that was the one that produced the most milk, and she had the most difficulty keeping up with the flow and let down. So, she refused that side first ... and eventually both sides. I would recommend continuing with block feeding if you aren't already, perhaps increasing the time blocks?

    Take a look at those links and especially listen to that podcast ... then post back and let us know how things are going. You can PM or email me too if you want!!
    Last edited by @llli*paint.the.moon; October 20th, 2006 at 09:04 PM.

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    Thank You Annie!! I am listening to the podcast right now!! This is all making sense to me...at one week old Wyatt was 9lbs 1oz!! He was 7lbs 10oz at birth!! He was 13.5 lbs at his 2 month check-up & had grown 5 inches!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyattsmama View Post
    Thank You Annie!! I am listening to the podcast right now!! This is all making sense to me...at one week old Wyatt was 9lbs 1oz!! He was 7lbs 10oz at birth!! He was 13.5 lbs at his 2 month check-up & had grown 5 inches!!
    Yep! That's how Adeline was too ... really fast gainer. Which made all the specialists and doctors we saw when she started complaining and striking tell me nothing was wrong. That podcast is the one thing that just totally clicked for me ... that's when I called my LLL leader and told her I think this is why Addie's been striking. She agreed and helped me plan a course of action to deal with it (mine was so severe at that point, due to the pumping I was told to do before EVERY feeding by that LC, that I had to block feed for 12 hours, and I had to wear a cold compress in my bra between feedings). By day two after starting to deal with the oversupply Adeline was peacefully nursing again and hasn't had a projectile vomit since.

    For some reason it's the norm for babies dealing with a mom who has an oversupply and OALD to not start fussing and refusing the breast until around the 3 month mark. That's when Adeline started too. It looks like your little one is at that age too. From LLL's The Breastfeeding Answer Book:

    From three to six months of age, a baby who is having difficulty handling his mother's forceful let-down may refuse or postpone feedings. Even if nursing has gone fairly smoothly until this stage, some babies who have difficulty coping with the mother's forceful let-down may begin to exhibit a reluctance to nurse that may include some of the following symptoms:

    -refusal to continue nursing when the mother switches breasts during a feeding
    -refusal to nurse himself to sleep, preferring instead fingers, thumb, or a pacifier
    -refusing some feedings even when obviously hungry
    -"biting" the breast
    -refusal to nurse at all (nursing strike)
    (1997 ed., page 95)

    I'm so glad you posted to get help! I wish I would have done so at the beginning of our problems. Instead I went back to that LC who gave me more bad advice and told me Adeline was just being fussy and being A BRAT. So we continued to have problems until she all out refused to nurse completely a month later. Please keep us updated how you guys are doing!

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    Yah!! That pod cast was sooo helpful!! Are there more podcasts about other things?? I should really check out the rest of this site! I am going to cry because while we were listenting, LO nursed like a peaceful cherub! IT was so cute, he even fell asleep at the breast!! I just went and tucked him in with DH. That was nurse #3 in the last 2.5 hours on the same side. I will nurse him 2 more times on the left. Then switch. YAH! This had seemed like such a bigger problem before...here I am getting all excited because of one nurse, but I just feel better all ready!! Maybe he will comfort nurse after all...and those other threads said this happened around 3 months too...thats why I was so confused, because things have been pretty good until now (minus a few problems in the beginning).

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    I know how you feel. After everything Adeline and I went through nursing became even more precious and sacred to both of us. I'm so happy when other mamas find out what's going on in time to fix it before things get as bad as it got with Adeline and I ... that month or so for us was a living nightmare. We still struggle to this day with partial strikes once in awhile. I still find myself holding my breath for the first couple minutes of each nursing session, waiting for her to pull off and start screaming like she is being tortured. She had gotten so scared of nursing that even putting her in a nursing position would terrify her. I felt so horrible that it was my body that had done that to her - to make her so traumatized!

    You can find more podcasts HERE.

    Mama to Adeline Brett, breastfed for 4.5 years (12/14/05) and little Eliza June, new tiny sprite in my arms and still learning the ropes (7/18/10)

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