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    Just let her nurse on cue. If YOU are uncomfortable/engorged then go ahead and offer, but as long as her output is fine, there's no need to time feedings

    LLL LactoJen-
    If a US quarter is a large bm for a baby, then my baby has gargantuan ones! A huge, seedy yellow mess!
    Her bitrhweight was 9lbs-8oz, which went up to 9lbs-11oz, then down to 9lbs-1oz when we left the hospital- and a couple days later, at the pediatrician, was back up to 9lbs-3oz. I haven't found her weight out since but I'm going to tomorrow. She's only been without supplements for about a day and a half now.
    Hey, big yellow seedy diapers like that are an EXCELLENT sign! First off, a baby who is getting enough to eat will move her bowels regularly. Secondly, the yellow is a good sign that she's getting plenty of hindmilk (hindmilk/foremilk imbalance can be a problem with oversupply sometimes).

    It's also good to see that her weight was on an upward trend. Hopefully you'll get good news tomorrow!

    Try not to stress. You're doing a FABULOUS job Mama!

    Jen
    "Mothers are designed to be available to their babies--to help them make the transition into this big, wide world. To teach them to trust, and love, and feel good about being alive."
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    Thanks again for the support. What I'm worried about now is thatshe's getting really fussy. We have to battle to get her to latch... She wants to latch shallowly, or refuses to at all even though she's rooting wildly.

    I'm nervous that her refusals are going to become seriously problematic. It's like she know how hard it will be to keep up and writhes in protest when I try to feed her.

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    OK, First......BREATHE IN.......BREATHE OUT........RELAX.

    Are you allowing the first let down to flow into a towel BEFORE you latch your LO so she doesn't have to "keep up" with the OALD? As she's rooting around and just b/f she latches gently push down on her chin to get a wider mouth. Make sure that her lower lip is out (not tucked in).

    Your LO can be sensing your anxiety. Don't think ahead and expect a serious problem. Deal with each nursing session one at a time and RELAX! BF gets so much easier. BOTH of you are learning right now and it's going to take time and mistakes but IT WILL WORK.

    Jennifer
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    I let her suck until let-down, and when I can tell she's having difficulties, I take her off and let it spray until the stream slows. Then I latch her back on and recline a little. I always make sure her lips are splayed but she doesn't seem to want to open her mouth very wide anymore... Unless she's REALLY hungry!

    I am trying to relax, everybody keeps telling me that she can probably sense my anxiety and worry. I feel bad about that, but it is so much harder than I thought it would be. Still, it makes me much happier trying so hard at this, than just giving her that stinky formula.

    Update on diapers- in the past 24 hours, she's had an astonishing 9 wet and 6 dirty. Good, right?
    Also, she doesn't have too much of a problem with falling asleep anymore. She nurses for a good ten minutes on one breast usually, but it's hard to get her to take the other at the same feeding. Maybe, hopefully, she really is getting full in shorter periods of time. If not, I'm happy to nurse her more often.
    Last edited by JustSasha; September 20th, 2006 at 08:32 AM.

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    I would not wait for her to start choking on the let down b/f you take her off. BEFORE nursing her, express that first let-down out and THEN latch her. I think that might help a lot.

    HANG IN THERE!

    Diaper output sounds AWESOME! You're doing great and so is she!

    Jennifer
    Amazed and Proud mom of Luke (Lucas) - 4/5/2006; 9 lbs 12 oz , 22in
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    Quote Originally Posted by luke's mom
    I would not wait for her to start choking on the let down b/f you take her off. BEFORE nursing her, express that first let-down out and THEN latch her. I think that might help a lot.
    I was afraid to do this because I thought it would stimulate more milk production, but then it hit me that the let-down I would be inducing will happen regardless of who manipulates it, haha

    It sounds like a really good plan, that way maybe she won't be "afraid" to nurse. Thank you !

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    When I read what your pediatrician had told you I just had to chime in!!!!! I can't believe that s/he expects your baby to be so predictable at this age. I used to think my baby wasn't getting enough either, because she frequently was fussy after feeding and did not sleep well at all. There were a few days when she was about six weeks old when she didn't take a single nap (argh). However, she was gaining weight and her output was good, so there was never a need to supplement. I also have had some oversupply/OALD issues, but now that my DD is three months she actually prefers the forceful let-down. Go figure. Believe me, I have been in your shoes, constantly searching for answers as to why things were not going smoothly. We still have rough days and inexplicable fussy nursing behavior. I even tried Zantac for a while but saw little difference. The best thing to do is to monitor the weight and the diapers, and if that is good, RELAX. Take it one nursing session at a time. Don't expect the ideal. Be present, take a deep breath, and focus on what is, not what should be. And you might want to start looking for a new pediatrician. It is really ridiculous to measure your breastfeeding success by whether the baby sleeps or not. And timing the feedings and always nursing from both breasts is not a good idea with oversupply, as I'm sure you've read already. I like my pediatrician, but I have had to ignore some of what she says (i.e. start cereal at 3.5 months) because they really are not knowledgeable on breastfeeding. Good luck!
    Last edited by EmmaLeigh; September 20th, 2006 at 10:06 AM.

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    My pediatrician is nice, she seems knowledgable and she favors breastfeeding, but I think her guidelines were a little off. I am going to tell her today that I have been talking with breastfeeding specialists and plan to continue what I have been doing as long as she is gainging weight appropriately.

    I think what my pediatrician was saying was just some guidelines for me, because I was very scatter-brained about it in the beginning. The first time we asked, she said every baby is different and we will kind of have to play it by ear. I asked again because I was desperate for some way of measuring her intake and that was the answer she gave me. I don't think it was meant to be a bonafide rule.

    Anyways I'm sure as long as Sophie is gaining proper weight, that she will simply tell me to continue doing whatever I am doing.

    And thanks for the support- this place has already pulled me through some panics!

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    Update on diapers- in the past 24 hours, she's had an astonishing 9 wet and 6 dirty. Good, right?
    Excellent! She's definitely getting plenty of breastmilk! I think I'm almost as anxious as you to find out what her next weight is, LOL!

    Just keep working at the latch. It seems to be a typical newborn problem to want to latch shallowly, even if mom isn't having a powerful letdown. But some babies will do that to help regulate the flow of milk. Really, just keep working at it--time will help her deal with the flow better and her mouth will grow bigger and handle a deep latch a little better.

    As the PP said, if you want to stimulate letdown and spray into a towel until it slows, that's fine--just don't express TOO much before you latch her on.

    Hugs
    Jen
    "Mothers are designed to be available to their babies--to help them make the transition into this big, wide world. To teach them to trust, and love, and feel good about being alive."
    --Elizabeth N. Baldwin, Esq., So I Nursed Him Every 45 Minutes

    Click here to find your local LLL Group
    How to tell if your breastfed baby is getting enough milk!

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    Default Re: Coughing/choking & gasping

    Quote Originally Posted by LLL LactoJen
    As the PP said, if you want to stimulate letdown and spray into a towel until it slows, that's fine--just don't express TOO much before you latch her on.
    What would a good amount be, do you think? Just until the stream slows to a steady drip perhaps?

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