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    Hey Kathy I also struggled with a reluctant daytime nurser, champion nighttime nurser. BFing was not a pleasant experience with a baby who screamed anytime i put her near my boob, but was obviously hungry. Going out in public was hardly worth it, there was no way i could get her to eat. but now she is 3 and a half months and things are so much better. We are both enjoying breastfeeding. I also never used the bottle for fear she would prefer it, and now she won't take it at all, but i am a-okay with that. Every once in a while though we have a set-back where she will hardly eat during the day, and i have correlated it to dairy. For 3 weeks i was vigilent about no dairy, and that's when things started to improve. A few days ago i ate a small amount of dairy (ice cream cake!), and the next day she refused to eat. So i suspect she just doesn't feel well and doesn't want to eat. So maybe your little guy also doesn't feel well from some food intolerance and therefore won't eat. It might be worth investigating.

    As for how often to offer the breast, i was also offering every hour, my hubby used to say "uh-oh, here she comes with the big boob...", but i knew when she wasn't eating enough, based on how she ate when we had the odd good day of nursing. I could tell she was hungry but just didn't want to eat, and was crying b.c she was hungry. so i spent most of my day trying to get her to eat. Eventually i developed a little trick that would get her to feed:

    When i know she is hungry but refusing to eat, i let her suck my finger (which she loves) while she's snuggled to my chest, then after 10 minutes i kinda lower her down to my nipple and latch her on and most often she will start feeding. I kinda trick her into eating, but it works. Mine is also a very fast feeder, 5 minutes tops. But now on really good days sometimes she takes her time and nurses for 15 minutes, which is really rewarding after a few months of feeling like she hates BFing.


    Anyhow, i just wanted to offer you another way to try to get him to nurse, and also some support so you know you aren't the only one. MY mom's group is full of lovely little breastfeeders who love the boob, it can be lonely to have a baby who fights it. We are going on vacation next week and everyone's advice for the plane is to nurse during take-off and landing. I laugh, b.c if there is one sure way to make my baby cry, it's to offer her the breast when she doesn't want it : ) Although she's now pretty good about nursing at home, she rarely nurses when we're out and about, so I'm a little apprehensive about our holiday. I am learning to accept that breastfeeding isn't the joy i had hoped, but i know it's still best for her. And things really have improved, even though i never thought they would. So keep going, i know it's tough, but hopefully it'll turn around for you.

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    Default Re: having a rough evening...need reassurance

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*bubble View Post
    Hey Kathy I also struggled with a reluctant daytime nurser, champion nighttime nurser. BFing was not a pleasant experience with a baby who screamed anytime i put her near my boob, but was obviously hungry. Going out in public was hardly worth it, there was no way i could get her to eat. but now she is 3 and a half months and things are so much better. We are both enjoying breastfeeding. I also never used the bottle for fear she would prefer it, and now she won't take it at all, but i am a-okay with that. Every once in a while though we have a set-back where she will hardly eat during the day, and i have correlated it to dairy. For 3 weeks i was vigilent about no dairy, and that's when things started to improve. A few days ago i ate a small amount of dairy (ice cream cake!), and the next day she refused to eat. So i suspect she just doesn't feel well and doesn't want to eat. So maybe your little guy also doesn't feel well from some food intolerance and therefore won't eat. It might be worth investigating.

    As for how often to offer the breast, i was also offering every hour, my hubby used to say "uh-oh, here she comes with the big boob...", but i knew when she wasn't eating enough, based on how she ate when we had the odd good day of nursing. I could tell she was hungry but just didn't want to eat, and was crying b.c she was hungry. so i spent most of my day trying to get her to eat. Eventually i developed a little trick that would get her to feed:

    When i know she is hungry but refusing to eat, i let her suck my finger (which she loves) while she's snuggled to my chest, then after 10 minutes i kinda lower her down to my nipple and latch her on and most often she will start feeding. I kinda trick her into eating, but it works. Mine is also a very fast feeder, 5 minutes tops. But now on really good days sometimes she takes her time and nurses for 15 minutes, which is really rewarding after a few months of feeling like she hates BFing.


    Anyhow, i just wanted to offer you another way to try to get him to nurse, and also some support so you know you aren't the only one. MY mom's group is full of lovely little breastfeeders who love the boob, it can be lonely to have a baby who fights it. We are going on vacation next week and everyone's advice for the plane is to nurse during take-off and landing. I laugh, b.c if there is one sure way to make my baby cry, it's to offer her the breast when she doesn't want it : ) Although she's now pretty good about nursing at home, she rarely nurses when we're out and about, so I'm a little apprehensive about our holiday. I am learning to accept that breastfeeding isn't the joy i had hoped, but i know it's still best for her. And things really have improved, even though i never thought they would. So keep going, i know it's tough, but hopefully it'll turn around for you.
    thank you so much for this mama!!! Sorry, I just found it...it helped alot, and I will def. try that trick...
    Wanted to update...I have no doubt he has silent reflux. Thank you to all of you who mentioned that this is what it could be. I have been researching and really paying attention to him. He is the worse in the morning, coughing and choking when refluxing. The massive drooling early on is actually an indication of reflux. He started compounded prevacid, but from what I have been reading, compounding it is not good. It loses its effectiveness fast (sometimes in a week), and there is never enough buffer to protect the med from stomach acid. Tried calling the ped. to switch to the solutabs, but he just has me talk to a nurse who said that the compound should work fine . I need to somehow relay this info to the ped so that I can get him on a good med. He was coughing like crazy this morning, and refusing to nurse all morning. I'm praying the meds work for us and he starts to nurse better.
    One day at a time...thanks for all your encouragement and support ladies. I would have given up long ago.

    Kathryn,
    Mama to my sweet blueberry eyed boy Joshua
    born on 11/2/2006

    and my blueberry eyed baby Jonah Henry...my water birth baby!
    born on 6/15/09



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    Default Re: having a rough evening...need reassurance

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*sixyearplan View Post
    Kathy

    Can you ask your dr for an RX of Zantac also if he won't give the Solutab? Your little guy sounds so much like E!
    I will, thank you! and thank you for all your support and encouragement, and for answering the same questions a million times for me. You have been so wonderful, and I really appreciate it!

    Kathryn,
    Mama to my sweet blueberry eyed boy Joshua
    born on 11/2/2006

    and my blueberry eyed baby Jonah Henry...my water birth baby!
    born on 6/15/09



    MOBY WRAPS ROCK

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    I am glad you are starting to nail this down. I wasn't sure if you ever pinpointed any allergens, but just wanted to chime in to let you know that one of the reflux meds has lactose in them. I *think* it was the solutabs, but am not sure. It is supposed to be medical grade and not contain any actual protein, but if there is a dairy allergy at play, I just wanted to mention it

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    thanks Shannon...maybe I will try the capsules. Made your veggie soup today (a double batch) and froze a ton...had it for lunch and dinner as well. DH LOVES it! I haven't been following a good elimination diet though. It's just so hard, but I'm doing my best to avoid dairy and soy.

    Kathryn,
    Mama to my sweet blueberry eyed boy Joshua
    born on 11/2/2006

    and my blueberry eyed baby Jonah Henry...my water birth baby!
    born on 6/15/09



    MOBY WRAPS ROCK

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