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Thread: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

  1. #21
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    Default Re: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

    That is insane. Your child isn't eating enough, so stop feeding her?

    Keep nursing as often as she wants to nurse. You are giving her what she needs. Mother's milk is perfect nutrition for a little one.

    I know you are concerned about getting her to eat other things. She probably will, when she is ready. Meanwhile, you should NOT cut out nursings, because right now that's all she's eating! She will still get some nutrition from nursing, even when you feel like she's getting nothing. And she'll still be getting the comfort and closeness she needs.

    Okay, so what do you do if she won't eat? You may need to give her artificial human milk from the store, in a sippy cup. She is over a year old now, so she could also drink cow's milk or soy milk from a sippy cup, but if she's not willing to eat yet, the artificial human milk might be your best option. Well, second-best, actually. Best would be donor milk from soneone you know and trust who pumps and has extra.

    Jasper (now 5 and a talented gymnast) didn't eat solids until he was TWO. I kid you not. We gave him things but he would just toy with them. By the time he was 1 1/2, he would eat maybe a teaspoon or two of diced pear or some other finger food in a day, but that was it. He didn't eat more than that until he was fully two years old. My in-laws were astonished by both how little he ate and how healthy he was on almost 100% mother's milk.

    Once he was ready to eat, there was no turning back. He eats as much as a grown man some days, if it's hamburgers or baked macaroni and cheese I'm serving.

    Which is to say, your little person will eat one day. It's possible there are sensory issues, either sensory issues which will go away in time or sensory issues which will persist. But forcing food will not change the sensory issues! Don't people at LLL meetings always say things like, "The most important thing is to get the baby the nutrition he needs"? Your specialist's plan doesn't sound like a good way to meet the child's needs, either for texture/taste OR for nutrition.

    Get another opinion. Trust your heart. You have plenty of time to work out your child's sensory issues, if she has them. Meanwhile, she needs her mother, she needs to nurse, and she needs nutrition. You can give her at least the first two without any help. If you don't have enough milk for her, then you need to find another source -- donor milk or, if you can't find any, artificial human milk. Then you can work on the eating issues gradually, knowing that you are keeping her healthy and well-fed.

    And for you. You are working hard and deserve it.
    Lollie
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  2. #22
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    Default Re: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

    mama. This is frustrating and confusing information for you. You are the expert on your baby!!
    I would encourage you to ask questions and get a second opinion if possible. There are real risks to any type of sudden weaning, physical and emotional for everyone involved. Often nursing is not seen as a relationship, just a means to an end for food. Even if there is no milk, she has the comfort of your breast and if you and her are able and willing to continue to nurse there is nothing wrong with that.
    You have been essentially doing what she suggested, slowly. Since your supply is going down. I agree that other reasons behavioral/medical reasons need to be ruled out first!

    Trust your yourself and your baby!
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  3. #23

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    I have to agree, it does go against reason to take away the one thing that you know your child will eat.

    Perhaps you can try leaving things out all day long for her, Dr Sears suggested using a muffin tin in one of his books. Carrot sticks, crackers, olives, whatever you can cut small and leave out for her.

    I've also heard of toddlers who like to dip things. Use whatever dip she'll take - ketchup, guacamole, hummus, dressings, whatever works for you and her. And sometimes the kids choose the weirdest combinations! Things that look just yucky to me. Carrots dipped in ketchup? No thanks. But kids go through stages where this stuff seems yummy. I suggest dips because sometimes, in addition to whatever bits of nutrition they get from the dip, they may also inadvertently bite off a piece of the food they are dipping. Sneaky, huh?

    There's also been a few children who refuse to eat off their own plate, but will happily sit on a parent's lap and eat what they are eating, right off mom or dad's plate. It sometimes seems that they just don't like their high chair.

    Are you giving her other things to drink during the day, too? Sippy cup or open top cup? Try to give her things that are good for her, fruit/veggie juices, some kind of whole milk (whatever works for you, animal or veg).

    In any event, the number one rule is always FEED THE BABY. That's it. They need to eat. How and what they eat may mean that you need to get creative with how you serve it to her.

    Finally, LLL has a book called "My Child Won't Eat". It's about infants and toddlers who don't like to eat. http://store.llli.org/public/profile/160 Dr Sears also has some ideas in his book "The Baby Book". http://www.askdrsears.com/store/detail.asp?pid=10 You may also find some ideas in the book "Whole Foods for Babies and Toddlers. http://store.llli.org/public/profile/198

    Please keep us updated with how things are going.



    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*bones.343 View Post
    Just wanted to send an update -- and vent!!! At 3 1/2 months pregnant, my milk supply is quickly going away. Even the freezer stash is down to a week or so left. Out of concern that Isabella will have nothing to eat, we had her assessed by an early intervention program (she still REFUSES all solids). Yesterday, the "feeding specialist" told us to put her on a schedule for meals. She recommended we stop feeding her throughout the night. At 7 am, give her breakfast. If she doesn't eat, she should get NOTHING until "snack" time 2 hours later, at which point she could have 6-8 oz of breastmilk. We are supposed to do this at every meal with the theory being if she gets hungry enough, she'll eat...

    WHAT?!?!?!?!? How do you explain to a 1 year old that mommy isn't taking care of her basic need, hunger, because she "should be" eating solids by now? Does anyone else find this insane? Not to mention... The "specialist" said she could still have refux so she may be self regulating food intake. So, if I take away breastmilk like she is suggesting, and it is reflux -- why would i make the child suffer through solids that may be painful to eat?

    There have been no tests done to determine if she refuses solids due to behavioral or medical reasons. So, isn't it premature to take away breastmilk when we don't even know if she can actually swallow???

    Just looking for a voice of reason here... I understand the concept of reducing BM so she'll have a bigger appetite for solids. But, the "specialist's" advice just seems cruel to me...
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    Oh! I forgot to add something. Many LLL Groups have those books in their lending library. Some public libraries do, too. Please contact your local LLL Group and check with them.

    And I remembered another book you might be interested in! Adventures in Tandem Nursing by Hilary Flower. http://store.llli.org/public/product/3 I'm recommending this one because most of the time, a mother doesn't get to tandem nurse without nursing through a pregnancy first! Her book covers the milk supply dip that often comes with pregnancy, maybe you'll find some helpful info there.

    OK, I think I'm done for now!
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  5. #25
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    Default Re: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

    Thank you all for the support -- and great information! I will get to reading the suggested books right away. Thus far, Dr. Sears has acted as our instruction manual

    I've also just introduced smoothies made from breast milk and veggies/fruit. I'm putting the smoothies in a cup and serving with her "meals". While she hasn't actually drank one yet, she has tasted it and seems to like it.

    I am going to continue to pump for as long as I have milk and have just ordered a supply of organic soy formula to supplement what milk I do have. I am down to 9 days supply of freezer milk, so, I figured I needed to act quick with finding a suitable supplement. It is hard though -- I've pumped for 13 months to avoid formula, so, it feels like I've been "defeated" in some way to have to go to it after all this time. Anyway, I'll do what I have to to make sure Isabella is happy and FED! I haven't cut out any BM feedings and don't intend to.

    Thank you again for all your input. As a mother, I have received so much advice (from family and doctors) that goes against my instincts. Sometimes, I start to question if I have any clue as to what I am doing?!

    I will keep you posted.

  6. #26

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    so sorry for your struggles. I just wanted to sympathize with a non eater myself (though he LOVES bark and dirt!).
    Also you could look at ways to up your supply, unless you are ready to wean. Dont think of formula as failing. exclusive bm for a year is awesome, think of the formula as just another 'solid' you are using in your arsenal.

  7. #27
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    Default Re: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

    Cardboard is Isabella's delicacy of choice

    I'm not ready to wean, but, apparently my pregnant body is... In my prime of pumping, I was getting 80+ ounces a day. I'm down to 15-20 ounces. Yesterday, I only got about 12. I was hoping my milk would hold out for as long as possible, but, I have to accept my body is changing due to the pregnancy.

    Today Isabella gnawed on the crust of a piece of bread, it was very exciting. I will keep offering and hope that she becomes more interested. I too symaphize with all you moms out there who are also experiencing food issues. It's stressful worrying about if your child is getting everything they need...

  8. #28
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    Default Re: Speeding up the Baby Led Solids Process?

    my LO LOOOOves watermelon, strawberries, and bluberries.

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