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    Default baby with overbite will not nurse

    Can anyone help?
    Our son is almost 3 months old and does not want to nurse. He nursed exclusively for the first month, then we introduced a few bottles and he did well with it. At 6 weeks he was only 6 ounces above his birth weight and the doctor wanted me to try some formula, which we stopped after a few weeks and finding out he was gaining weight. We experiemented with feedings and found that even after 45+ minutes of nursing he would still follow up with a 2 to 3 ounce bottle. When he takes just a bottle he takes 4 to 5 ounces, so he only gets half the feeding nursing even after so long--often even an hour or more. I am not new to nursing as I have nursed all 4 of our other children, and it is not an issue of having enough, as I am able to pump out more than he takes.
    He has a rather large overbite, and sucks his bottom lip in when eating. He has done this from the beginning and I always try to pull the lip back out but within a few seconds--usually immediately, it goes right back in no matter how often I do this. The doctor checked to see if he is tongue tied while he was in the hospital, and says he is not, though I wonder if he may be slightly toungue tied. He has dicovered his tongue and when trying to stick it out it comes to his bottom lip, but does not extent past it.
    He 100% refuses to nurse now. I have tried nipple shields and have only gotten him to nurse a few times in the past couple of weeks, even though I try at every feeding. Last week, at almost 3 months he is 3 pounds above where he started.
    Any suggestions?

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    Default Re: baby with overbite will not nurse

    Hi mama,
    Welcome to the forum.

    It seems like you have done a lot of work already! With your past experience I imagine it is very frustrating for you not to just be able to nurse your baby.

    Can you give us more detail about the types of bottles being used- what flow, when baby's nursing strike began, what techniques you have tried so far to encourage baby to want to latch on?

    Have you read any material on chiropractors and cranio-sacral massage in infants? Some mother's have experienced some reversal of fortune with some simple body work. Here is a link to some reading and information: http://www.icapediatrics.com/referen...Breast-Feeding Might help with any muscle tension preventing a proper latch.

    What did your helath care provider say about your latch and baby's jaw?

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    Thanks for the welcome and yes it is very frustrating. This mama has shed many tears in the past months. He also had some things checked with his blood in the first 6 weeks that caused him to be very tired, though all is fine with that now and he is very active now and everything else is normal.
    He has been to the chiropractor 3 times already. Partially, because I think a few good adjustments helps them sleep better, but mostly to have her look at his jaw. She says everything is in tact well, just has an overbite. She did some Cranio-sacral with him. I am massaging his jaw area and doing a few things she suggested. Vitamin/mineral supplement to encourage the jaw area to grow, as well has holding him upside down. Regular doctor says just his facial structure and do the best we can.
    Because he had a hard time at first I tried two different kinds of bottles--anything to get him gaining weight--though now I am regretting it. I tried the Aire vent (not using any more) and regular playtex with the bags--which is what we use now with slow flow nipples. I had used the others just because he would take it better and we were concerned about him not gaining at first. The doctor suggested finding nipples with no holes and putting a very tiny hole in them, but I can not find them. He has been refusing to nurse for almost 3 weeks now, though I continuely try and have tried things the nurses at the hosptial have suggested--i.e. putting expressed milk on nipple to encourage latch on, and pumping to get the flow started, along with the nipple shields. Considering getting a SNS.
    Thanks for the link--I will do some reading to see if I can find anything else that might help.

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    Many many infants have what appears to be an overbite, but it's very common. What's more worrisome to me is that you mention that he can't stick out his tongue. That really sounds like a tongue tie.

    This article has some good info about getting baby back to breastfeeding. http://www.llli.org/NB/NBJulAug01p136.html

    I suggest you find a LLL Leader and/or an IBCLC in your area that can meet with you in person to help out.

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    Elizabeth,

    Thanks for the link. I actually read it though just before I posted earlier. I have talked to many OB nurses from the hopital, and plan to contact someone from the local LLL soon.

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    Have you looked into any baby led latching?

    I am a huge fan of this because it is so non-pressure ect. Here are some links:

    http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/bfinfo/bla.html
    http://www.ameda.com/breastpumping/v...LatchOnEnglish
    http://www.toronto.ca/health/breastf...st_feading.htm

    What about taking a bath together and letting him relax and root around. Sometimes that can make it easy to pop a nipple in. Do you feel comfortable trying something like that?

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    You seemed interested in trying some at the breast supplementing?

    Here is a link to lactaid which some mothers say is easier to figure out than a sns: http://www.lact-aid.com/

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    Default Re: baby with overbite will not nurse

    Hi KarenT
    WElcome to the fourm...
    do keep trying your local leaders.. we have some wonderfull leaders here in ohio.
    Some babies it just takes a long time to coax them to the breast.
    Have you thought about cutting suppliments in the bottle and trying other feeding options?
    http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/a...e-feeding.html
    So that baby meets all sucking needs at breast...

    how were your nipples fealing when you were nursing?
    Most tounge tie babies will do a number on your nipples and you'll have cracks and bleeding and such because of thier latch.

    this link might help to:
    http://www.llli.org/FAQ/back.html

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