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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Very close to giving in!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gracesmom View Post
    I am glad to hear that although you dont necessarily agree with the advice it isnt really thought that my little one will reject the breast after 1 day of this process.
    And I may have mispoke about "no bottles/paci forever" but I did mean even in the first weeks. Grace barely gets any of these items so I wasnt concerned that she would be confused by the nipples.
    I think the goal of the pumping is not to check my production per se but to get my production to where it should be and making sure my milk has in fact come in. I am finding I can pump within a half ounce so far (3 feeds) of what Grace is taking in and that in itself is reassuring to me in that I know I have the capablity of giving her what she needs. If she is a lazy sucker or impatient then we can address that battle with this information. I hope at least...we'll see!

    I just wanted to add about a hundred of these: regarding Google's, Andrea's and DJ's moms posts.

    I also wanted to clarify something for you. One of the pp's mentioned the difference in lactation counselors. You said you contacted an LC. Lactaction Consultants don't always have the same amount or type of training. In fact, they have much less training than an IBCLC...which is an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant. An IBCLC has much more training, and is regulated by the board and certified to be a Lactation Consultant. They didn't just get their LC status by taking a couple of classes, they are generally the most knowledgeable, and have far more training than MD's, and Ped's get all through medical school. That's why, sometimes if you have a tough prob, a doc. will refer you to an IBCLC, because they are specialists, and the docs are generally not specialists in that area.

    Now that being said, from everything you've said, you child is wetting MORE than 6 wet diapers and having lots of poopy ones per day. It sounds like she's gaining weight well and meeting milestones.

    I know this is repeating everybody else who's posted to you, but I'd suggest the following things:

    - RELAX! You have plenty of milk.

    - Stop giving bottles or pacis until you have the kinks worked out of breastfeeding. Go without them at least 4-6 weeks and start re-introducing them after that point...AFTER you and she have perfected your breastfeeding relationship and your milk supply is well established.

    - Stop looking at the clock. Go back up and read the signs of EARLY hunger cues. Offer the breast whenever she shows those early signs of hunger. Do NOT wait until she's crying to offer the breast. Newborns might eat every more often than the textbooks say, so don't wait until 2 hours have past. If you want to know how long its been between feedings, count from the start of one session to the start of the next one. Sometimes that's less than 2 hours...sometimes during growth spurts that's only an hour.

    - Stop pumping for now. Relax and enjoy your baby. You don't need to pump after every session to increase your supply when its obvious your baby is getting enough milk by producing enough wet and dirty diapers and meeting milestones and gaining weight well already. Remember, breast pumps are a modern invention. The human body doesn't need the extra stimulation to produce the right amount of milk for your baby. It works by supply and demand. The baby knows how much she needs, so you nurse her as often as she needs to, and your body will supply as much as she needs. If she goes through a growth spurt, she'll be sending you cues that she needs to nurse more often, and you will do that and your body will follow suit and produce more milk, and then your baby will have more available per session and will go back to the normal time spacing of feedings that's right for her.

    We're here for you! It's alot of work to breastfeed, but try to remember not to make more work out of it for yourself than necessary.

  2. #32
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    Default Re: Very close to giving in!!

    One more thing. Newborns also need to be going only one 4 hour stretch during the night without nursing. So if she's sleeping longer than that (and some newborns do), then you'll need to be waking her up to eat again. My oldest son did that in the beginning, but for a sleepy newborn, its counterproductive, and the can wake up SO hungry that they're freaking out and not remember even how to latch for a second even though that's the one thing they need more than anything else.

    Shoot for at least 8-12 full nursing sessions per day, while realizing that some babies may nurse a little more than that, but definitely not less as a newborn. Don't let baby sleep more than 2-3 hour stretches during the day, or they may not take in enoug breastmilk total per day. In the beginning, shoot for one 4-5 hour stretch at night, but realize that manytimes, newborns nurse every couple of hours 24 hours a day. If baby does sleep 4 hours at night, and go back to sleep, wake them after another 2-3 hours so they get enough to eat.

    Our ped. actually recommended that after my DS#1 started sleeping REALLY long stretches overnight as a newborn, but waking up so hungry that he couldn't figure out how to nurse, like you describe with your baby freaking out and not being able to latch on.

    Remember, breastfeeding is NOT like formula feeding. Breastmilk is easily digested in less than a couple of hours. Formula can take up to 4 hours or longer to digest and its harder on a baby's stomach. So breastfed babies need to eat much sooner, and will need to eat more often during the night than a formula fed baby.

  3. #33
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    Default Re: Very close to giving in!!

    if ur not sure if baby is fussing or hungry---offer the breast!! if she isnt hungry, fine. she may be in 5/10 minutes, who knows?! when my baby is fussy i always offer breast, then diaper, make sure shes warm/cool enough, walk, then offer breast again. i have noticed if im doing things or tied up w/ my older son, and imiss the first hunger cues, baby doesnt nurse as well...............dont give up. it is the best gift ever. you can do it!! keep logging on and asking questions, and try to start over mentally with each feeding!
    mom to a wonderful son: 7/5/05
    and beautiful little daughter: 1/17/08
    7lb 11oz at birth
    14.0 on 3/25/08!!
    17.0 on 4/26/08
    newly tandem nursing, born-again mama



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    Default Re: Very close to giving in!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gracesmom View Post
    I am glad to hear that although you dont necessarily agree with the advice it isnt really thought that my little one will reject the breast after 1 day of this process.
    And I may have mispoke about "no bottles/paci forever" but I did mean even in the first weeks. Grace barely gets any of these items so I wasnt concerned that she would be confused by the nipples.
    I think the goal of the pumping is not to check my production per se but to get my production to where it should be and making sure my milk has in fact come in. I am finding I can pump within a half ounce so far (3 feeds) of what Grace is taking in and that in itself is reassuring to me in that I know I have the capablity of giving her what she needs. If she is a lazy sucker or impatient then we can address that battle with this information. I hope at least...we'll see!
    So it's been 4days....We haven't heard back from you. How did it go?

    Way too lazy for formula

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