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    Default probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    So I know that honey is bad and can cause infant botulism (sp?) but, I'm wondering if crackers, breads, etc. that have honey as an ingredient are still bad. My dd is not eating solids yet, but I'm wondering for future reference and also just wondering if I need to be careful while I'm eating those kinds of food. TIA!!!!


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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    My understanding(and someone correct me if I'm wrong) is that foods like cereals or crackers are processed so the risk is taken away. It's just the raw, unpasterized honey that is a risk.

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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    ah, that makes sense...I bet you're right


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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    This is what I could find:

    A baby's gut can't defend itself against the botulism spores, and so they can colonize the intestinal tract, germinate and release botulinum neurotoxin. As a result, honey is not recommended for babies under a year old. It's recommended that you avoid giving baby anything that contains honey, or make sure that the cooking process kills any botulism spores that might be present. To kill botulism spores, the food must be cooked at 240 degrees Fahrenheit (this requires a pressure cooker) for at least 15 minutes. Botulism spores are very heat resistant - it takes more than six hours of boiling at 212 degrees Fahrenheit to kill the spores. The toxin is less resistant - boiling foods (at 212 degrees Fahrenheit) for 10 minutes will destroy the toxin.
    I would think that crackers are cooked enough, but I'm not sure.

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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    I've read "No honey."

    No such thing as a stupid question.
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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    Also, pasturization doesn't kill the spores. Every bottle, packet, or whatever of honey I have ever seen ALWAYS says not to give it to infants under 1 year old, so I wouldn't trust that whatever cooking process something went through is enough to kill it.

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    Cooking does not remove the danger. Bummer, I know.

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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    Quote Originally Posted by moose View Post
    Cooking does not remove the danger. Bummer, I know.
    Right. Cooking does not actually kill the spores. So it's "no honey" until the year point to err on the side of caution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ's Mom View Post
    Right. Cooking does not actually kill the spores. So it's "no honey" until the year point to err on the side of caution.
    I thought it was no honey until 2 years old?

    I swear I read that somewhere. Wyatt is almost 2 and has never had honey, hidden or not.

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    Default Re: probably a stupid question regarding honey and infants

    Quote Originally Posted by wyattsmom View Post
    I thought it was no honey until 2 years old?

    I swear I read that somewhere. Wyatt is almost 2 and has never had honey, hidden or not.
    Well....Annie told me and linked me to information that it was one. And that's what I went with. We introduced things like Graham Crackers and such after the year point. But hey...waiting never hurt anyone!

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