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    Default First Time BFeeder-few questions HELP

    Hello I have a few questions about breast feeeding

    I had my first child 2.5 weeks ago and I have been have trouble with breast feeding. It is very painful when she latches on. She sucks very hard. I had a lactation specialist come to help so now I am using a breast shield. Even with the breast shield, I have painful feeding and ok feedings. It looks like she is latched on correctly but not sure why I still have pain. Is it ok to continue to use the shield and will I ever get to BF with out it?

    Also, I was feeding her 10 minutes on each breast until I read that I should only use one breast because the baby will not get the fatty milk, only the watery milk. Is this true? Do I use only one breast until she is finished and at the next feeding use the other breast? I have been trying that but I started leaking like crazy. Is it OK to be leaking this much? I was told I could pump but if I feed my baby every 2 to 3 hours and still have to pump, I will be either feeding or pumping every hour. Won't that stimulate too much milk? Please let me know if I should still continue to pump?

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    First off, congratulations on the new baby! The first few weeks and months are the hardest, but if you can hang in there, it gets soooo much easier!

    I'm sorry you're getting latch-on pain. Does the pain persist throughout the feeding, or does it only last for the first few seconds? And do you have any signs of nipple damage, like cracks? If the pain is lasting only a couple of seconds when the baby first latches on, it will probably pass as your nipples get tougher and your baby gets bigger. (Bigger babies have bigger mouths and can latch on more deeply- and a deep latch is usually absolutely pain-free.) If you are having pain throughout the feeding, or have any signs of nipple damage, go back to the lactation consultant ASAP, and work on your baby's latch some more, because it probably isn't optimal.

    Using the shield is okay, but it can cause some problems that you want to watch out for. The first is that the baby may get addicted to the shield, and only want to nurse using it, which can be tricky as the baby gets older and you want to be out and about more. The second thing to watch out for is low milk supply. The shield can reduce stimulation to the breast, which can lead to lowered supply, so watch your baby's diaper output carefully.

    Turn the clock to the wall when you're nursing. If you watch your baby instead of the clock, she will let you know when she is done. Her sucking will slow (The pattern will go from suck-swallow-suck-swallow to suck... suck... suck-suck... suck) and she will sometimes fall off the breast with a stoned, happy, milk-drunk look on her face. At that point, she's gotten lots of hindmilk from breast #1, and it's time to offer breast #2, just to top her up. She may only suck on side 2 for a few minutes, or she may decide to tuck in to a full meal.

    It is okay and normal to leak. Your supply will adjust after a while if you just continue to nurse on demand. Pumping is probably not a great idea at this point unless you have a supply problem or are trying to build a freezer stash for a return to work. If you're not doing either of those things, pumping is just going to tell your body to make more milk, which, if you're leaking copiously, sounds like something you probably don't need.

    Just watch your baby. Feed on demand. The first few weeks/months are a struggle- but I PROMISE that it gets better! Hang in there!

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    Congrats on your new little one. I hope you find some answers on here.

    I am going to skip the nipple shield one because I have no idea and no experience. However, regarding the pain, have you had your latch checked? Some discomfort is normal (it does take some getting used to having a little one always on you) and some pain and discomfort does go along with that. However, it shouldn't really hurt. Does that make sense? I would get your latch check and make sure there isn't anything you can do differently.

    I do know that many moms have gone on to breastfeed without a shield so I know there is hope in that regard.

    I agree with the previous poster, that you should not watch the clock while feeding the baby. Watch the baby. Listening to baby swallowing is a great way to know if they are done or not. And then top off with the next breast is a good idea.

    Nipple stimulation is nipple stimulation. At the early stages (first 3 weeks or so) it always seems that you have a million times more milk than you need. If you just nurse, the supply will level out. If you nurse and pump, it will keep your supply up there. The leaking is completely normal and it will get better as your supply levels out.

    Hope this helps you some. And hang in there, the first month is the hardest.

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    I fed only on one side until my dd seemed to want more, but it was easier at first to do one side at a time and I have heard that they get more hindmilk if its one at a time but I don't know if its true , you can tell which ones hindmilk it looks like cream

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    I have never used a breastshield either, so I can't comment on that. However, I had trouble in the beginning (probably just like everyone else). It took a month or a little more to get the hang of a good latch, getting past the cracked nipples, little bit of bleeding, and lots of swearing under my breath every time he latched on, because at first it was painful. Try sucking on any part of your body every few hours, it would hurt! Having said that, as time goes on, your nipples toughen up (you can feel the skin around them feels tougher) and your baby gets better at latching on from so much practice, that eventually it doesn't hurt (it actually tickles a little!).
    In the beginning, from my experience, you build your milk supply best by offering both breasts at each feeding. When you feed next, start with the last breast you finished on. As bfing gets easier, and your supply settles, you will switch to giving one breast at a time (unless your LO needs more, ie. growth spurts, so take your cues from the baby).

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    First off.... CONGRATS!!! Sorry that you are having trouble, but we have all gone thru our share...it does get better..

    ITA with the pp and I just wanted to add this link for some more info

    http://newborns.stanford.edu/Breastfeeding.html
    Married mama with 4 kiddos...2 girls (11 & 6) and 2 boys (21mo & 3mo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Momma1 View Post
    Turn the clock to the wall when you're nursing. If you watch your baby instead of the clock, she will let you know when she is done. Her sucking will slow (The pattern will go from suck-swallow-suck-swallow to suck... suck... suck-suck... suck) and she will sometimes fall off the breast with a stoned, happy, milk-drunk look on her face. At that point, she's gotten lots of hindmilk from breast #1, and it's time to offer breast #2, just to top her up. She may only suck on side 2 for a few minutes, or she may decide to tuck in to a full meal.

    It is okay and normal to leak. Your supply will adjust after a while if you just continue to nurse on demand. Pumping is probably not a great idea at this point unless you have a supply problem or are trying to build a freezer stash for a return to work. If you're not doing either of those things, pumping is just going to tell your body to make more milk, which, if you're leaking copiously, sounds like something you probably don't need.

    Just watch your baby. Feed on demand. The first few weeks/months are a struggle- but I PROMISE that it gets better! Hang in there!
    Stop watching the clock was the best thing I ever did. Dh hates it because he will ask how long do I need. I tell him until she is done.... I leak most of the time. I wear my nursing pads and change them about twice to three times a day.

    Hang in there mamma I did and I am so happy for it I am a changed mom.
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    Default Re: First Time BFeeder-few questions HELP

    Thank you Thank you Thank you everyone for your responses!!

    I know when it is a bad latch when is it serious pain for more than a few minutes. Other times it will really hurt and then subside. I do think I sill have to work on her latch though.
    Sometimes I can see my nipple through the shield and it goes in and out of her mouth. I don't know why this is happening, i guess she doesn't have the whole breast in her mouth, just the nipple. I do have good days and bad days. I am very glad to hear that it has taken some of you as long as a month so there is still hope for me. I am NOT giving up!!!!

    Also one other feeling I have been having is shooting pain through my breast. Almost like a needle going through it and it goes deep. It also happens when I am not even BF..has anyone ever experienced this pain??

    When I get her latch a little better I will try it without my shield so I do not get low milk supply.

    Thanks again for everyone's help. I appreciate it!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brookesmom View Post
    Also one other feeling I have been having is shooting pain through my breast. Almost like a needle going through it and it goes deep. It also happens when I am not even BF..has anyone ever experienced this pain??
    When you do have it when you are BFing does your baby start swallowing much more? Or when you're not BFing do you leak when it happens? That's how my letdown felt in the beginning.

    It's also the way some mommy's describe the pain of Thrush, so check for white patches in your LOs mouth and any rashes or anything on your breasts. Since you use a shield I don't know if you can tell by just looking at your nipple immediately after a feed like someone who doesn't use a shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jazzy's Mommy View Post
    When you do have it when you are BFing does your baby start swallowing much more? Or when you're not BFing do you leak when it happens? That's how my letdown felt in the beginning.
    I will to see if the pain is when I am leaking..could be

    It's also the way some mommy's describe the pain of Thrush, so check for white patches in your LOs mouth and any rashes or anything on your breasts. Since you use a shield I don't know if you can tell by just looking at your nipple immediately after a feed like someone who doesn't use a shield.
    can you please help me out with what thrush means..too much milk? I don't see any white spots but what would that mean. I don't have any rashes but sometimes I do have what looks like hickies on my breast.
    thanks for your help!

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