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    Default Problems with 4 day old

    My friend gave birth to a gorgeous 7lbs 1oz baby girl 4 days ago. She planned on nursing her baby right after she delivered but complication arose. Her uterus started falling through her cervix which then caused her to start hemmoraging badly, she recieved 4 pints of blood and was rushed into surgery to have her uterus put back in place. So, she wasn't able to nurse her baby for several hours after giving birth. She told the nurses she wanted to nurse and the baby to have no bottles or formula. Well, the new baby was given formula until she was ready to nurse. She had a hard time getting her baby to latch on and the nurses were just like "well, she won't latch on so just let her have formula." she asked for a bf specialist who works for the hospital to come in and after a few days the specialist got the baby to latch on. She was just released yesterday and is starting to struggle again, her new baby girl screams after a few minutes of latching on and after several minutes of stuggling she caves and gives her baby a bottle . She said her milk has came in and is engorged, so I told her to pump some off to where her breasts aren't so hard and then maybe her baby will stay latched on. It worked but after a few minutes her baby started screaming and wouldn't latch back on. She is just exhausted from giving birth and the complications and surgery she just gives in. I told her to contact a local LLL member but she was told they don't do home visits often. She wants other opinions for getting her baby to latch on without her screaming after a few minutes. Her baby has a check up tomorrow and she left the hospital weighing 6lbs 10oz, which I told her is normal for a baby to lose weight after birth.
    She is really trying and getting frustrated. She just called me a few minutes ago crying and said she doesn't know if she wants to continue with trying to get her baby to nurse.. Could she be having a forceful letdown?

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    Default Re: Problems with 4 day old

    Its possible. She could also need to try some reverse pressure to allow baby to latch on better.

    It really sounds like some basic nipple confusion to me though.
    Have you suggested skin on skin contact, a sling? What about cuddling under a blanket with out a shirt on? The feeling of mama's skin and smell can help to stimulate the desire to root around for a nipple. Is she trying to latch on a starving hungry baby? A baby that has some milk in them will be more cooperative ...

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    Default Re: Problems with 4 day old

    If it is nipple confusion then maybe using a nipple shield would help get the baby more interested in the breast. Then your friend could slowly transition from using the nipple shield to going without.

    Here is a link about nipple shields:

    http://www.kellymom.com/bf/concerns/...an-shield.html

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    I'd actually advise against the nipple shield. They had me use one in the hospital, and now I can't wean him off of it, and he is now 8 weeks old.

    Has she tried pumping or making sure her nipple is out enough for the baby to latch on to? Remember, if mommy is frustrated, so is baby. Baby may be picking up on mommy's emotions.

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    Default Re: Problems with 4 day old

    First, let her know that you support whatever she decides to do. Mostly just try to listen. She has been through a lot, and breastfeeding has been a horrible experience for her so far, and it sounds like the baby has not really enjoyed it either!

    I think probably a lot of skin to skin time would be healing for this mom and baby, and may put the baby in touch with his natural desire to find the breast and nurse. If Mom sees that he wants to nurse, she might feel like giving it a try again.

    It is ok that the baby has had bottles. In fact, the baby may breastfeed better after getting a little bit of energy from a bottle, if that is what the baby is currently used to. Some LCs use the breast as "dessert" and then gradually pare back the amount in the bottle as the baby gets better at breastfeeding.

    I hope this mom finds some healing. You are a good friend to be getting some info for her!

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    I swear by the nipple shield. I was finishing my comps for grad school when my first lo was born. I pumped about 3 oz of milk when she was 1 week old and left her with my parents for a few hours. She drank the milk from the bottle or should I say guzzled the milk within minutes. When I got home she wouldn't go to the breast. After a horrible night for us both, both of us crying and screaming, I seen the LC the next day. She gave me a shield and used it for about a week. I would start with the shield, get the baby latched, wait for my let down, the remove the shield and the baby would nurse. It was what saved us, we would never have made it 2 years nursing if we hadn't tried it that day. I say it can't hurt to try! Good luck to your friend!

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    Things are going a bit better today, she contacted another LLL member and she told her what signs to look for when the baby is hungry and not waiting until she is starving and thats why she is not wanting to stay latched on. When the baby started showing signs of getting hungry, her mom promptly brought the new baby to her and helpped her get the baby latched on and she didn't fight as much, she stayed latched for 20 minutes at each nursing session. She is going through a lot, she's only 17 years old and she is doing this all on her own. Daddy is not involved in the babies life. Her mom took off of work for a couple of weeks to help her out and I am helpping her with the bf issues the best I can. Thats why I came on here for advice and thanks a bunch. She does strip the newborn down to just a diaper and uses skin to skin contact. When I talked to her this afternoon things seemed to be going better with breastfeeding. She is experiencing soreness and I recommended those soothie gel pads and her mom went out and bought some for her, which she said really helpped a lot. Her mom is really helpping her out by taking care of everything, letting her daughter rest and bringing the new baby to her while she rests. She calls when has a question or just needs someone to talk to and I let her know I am here for her and support whatever she decides to do. Today she is more into wanting to get breastfeeding to work. She is a very strong person and she really is an inspirtation and such a sweetheart. She doesn't have the inter net so, thats why she hasn't come on her asking questions, so I offered to do it for her. I printed out all the responses and she says "thank you all very much for the support. I really hope this works out, it will benifit my new daughter greatly."

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    Default Re: Problems with 4 day old

    I read your last post and logged off. While I was doing some washing in the kitchen I started thinking about your friend. How strong and brave she must be. Even at such a young age, with no DH and just the mom to help (and you of course, you're a great friend by the way), she's determined to give the best to her little baby. Its really admirable. I wish her well, hope everything goes well for her and her baby.

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