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    Default I can't do this...

    This is my second baby. I BF my first one until 1 year old and never encountered this problem.

    DD and I have had thrush since the week of Xmas. I didn't realize that's what it was until we went for her one month check up on Jan. 3rd. Since then we've gone through 3 weeks of Nystatin for her and just about a whole tube of the generic version of Lotrimin AF on my nipples. I've had both nipples cracked to the point where I had to use a nipple sheild.

    Now I've done everything I was told to do. Wash my bras in hot water with bleach and dry on high heat, wash nipples after every feeding and let air dry, Lotrimin cream, vinegar/water mixture etc. DD's mouth cleared up two days ago, but my nipples are still red and very sensitive. I also have a burning sensation and they hurt when my shirt rubs against them. I just don't know what else to do. The lotrimin cream dries out my nipple so bad that its starting to make them crack again so I've been alternating that with the Lansinoh cream to get some moisture back. Which I'm sure probably isn't helping.

    Suggestions anyone? I'm about ready to give up.

    Sara
    Mom to Richard 11.26.03 & Jolene 12.01.05

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    I am nursing my (#4) 11mo old and have also been battleing a yeast thingsine December too. Same issue. I can't see it on her but my nipples hurt BAD, in fact I am just recovering from a terriable split that I barely made it through. I tried Gentian Violet and was told that is the ONLY thing that will KILL the yeast not just slow it down. My only mistake was I only treated me not the baby because I did not see it in hermouth... needless to say it came back. I am reluctant to do it again because it makes such a horriable mess. One idea of advise if you do try ther Gentian Voliet and also have an injury I spoke with a dermatologist and he said I could use Hydrocortizome cream a few times a day on the nipple to accelerate the healing... I must mention I did not talk to a lactation specialist that agreed with that treatment becuase they were not sure the effects on the baby. I figuared I had been doing the Lotrimin creamf long enough so a few days of this would hurt and it did help ALOT.

    Let me know if you find anything that will work for you..... I am so sorry... believe me I feel your pain!

    Jen

    Mom of
    Evan 8
    Tyler 6
    Ryan 6
    Daidy 11mo
    and #5 - 6 wks along

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    Oh boy, Sara and Jen...Thrush/yeast can be so painful and I can imagine (actually I know!) what you have been going through. Yeast can become very systemic and oftentimes treating it on the outside is not enough. Many mothers finally find relief with a combination of several treatments. Gentian violet is an antifungal which you paint into the babies mouth and he in turn transfers it to your nipple when he nurses. Fluconazole, or Diflucan is an orally-taken medication which treats the yeast overgrowth systemically. It is usually taken over the course of weeks, because it must be taken for at least a WEEK after symptoms have subsided. Without going into further detail I am going to give you two links. One is for an article called "Yeast Infections and the Breastfeeding Family". This will help you figure out why you are experiencing this problem and how to avoid it in the future. The other links are for protocols for different treatments. As LLL Leaders, we are not medical professionals and therefore not able to give medical advice. But what I can tell you is to look over and print out this information, and take it as soon as possible to your HCP, describing your symptoms and what you think might help. These treatments have most definitely worked for other mothers.

    http://www.lalecheleague.org/llleade...tNov98p91.html
    http://www.kellymom.com/newman/20fluconazole.html
    http://www.kellymom.com/newman/06gentian_violet.html

    I hope you both receive some relief soon. In the meantime, always nurse on the least sore side first, as that is when baby's suck is strongest. Some mothers find that doing deep-breathing exercises helps during feeds. Hang in there...it will get better. Keep us posted and good luck.

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    I forgot to mention...it would be VERY helpful if you could reach a local LLL Leader. She could be a valuable resource to you and give you more hands on help.

    http://www.lalecheleague.org/leaderinfo.html

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    Thanks for the links, Kate. And Jen, I totally sympathize with you. I'd rather give birth again with no pain relief than deal with this. Its totally stinks. I'm going to give the Pedatrician a call and see if he will call in another script of Nystatin for DD and call the OB and see if he will call in something for me.

    On the plus side, I did finally get DD to take a bottle tonight. I guess if worse comes to worse I could pump every 2 hours around the clock and bottle feed her for a few days to see if that helps with the soreness. I also developed another crack today on my left nipple. I'll live though.

    Sara
    Mom to Richard 11.26.03 & Jolene 12.01.05

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    Sara,

    good luck. I swear after successfully nursing all 4 of my kids (twins included) unitl past 1 year of age it just goes to show you are always learning. This Thrush and persistant yeast issue has thrown me for a whirl! With #5 on the way I guess I could call it quits if this last stint of gentian voilet does not work.... then what? Will the yeast still be there when I start nursing my new one??? I hate to end such a wonderful nursing experience on a sour note. Anyway Good luck to you and let me know if things get better for you or if you learn something new.

    Jen

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