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    Unhappy Desperate mom

    I been struggling with low supply problems for 2 1/2 months, it´s almost 3 am and i´m tired; here´s my story:I started back to work when my daughter was 6 weeks old and have never been able to get more than 2 oz. total when pumping at work or home. At the first weeks she would bob her head to my breast and away crying the whole time as if she were starving and there was nothing there, so i had to supplement with formula. i used two breast pumps the first one an evenflo (single/electric) for a couple of weeks but it wore off. Then i rented a lactina from medela and i been using it since then with no satisfactory results (2 oz the most from both breast). I been visiting a lactation consultant who have helped me with proper latch technique because i suffered from mastitis and now my baby is able to nurse better but she still needs 1 or 2 oz after 45 min to 1 hr of nursing her. I have taken all the herbs (fenugreek 3 caps/3 times daily, 2 boxes of mother´s milk tea, domperidone 20 mg/3 times daily for 10 days and now alfalfa caps 8 daily), drinks lots of water, pumping every two hours at work plus every 3 when at home - 5-6 times per day, but after pumping I only can get about 9 oz daily. The lactation consultant doesnt know what´s the problem and i´m frustrated about this situation because i been doing everything to increase my milk supply with no results. I´m going to start classes next week for a master´s program and i´m currently working part time (30 hs/week); i want to store more milk because i will be away from my baby more time and i´m afraid i will lost my poor milk supply. Please HELP!!!! here are my questions:

    1. Should i change from breastpump??? i read that sometimes changing from brands can help. I was thinking of changing from Lactina (medela) to Purely Yours (Ameda)

    2. Should I keep taking domperidone??? I read in Dr. Jack Newman´s website that i could increase up to 30 mg/3 times per day up to 6 weeks. Is that safe??? PLEASE NOTE i forgot to tell you i have no support from my doctor so i feel unsecure to keep taking it

    3. My lactation consultant (which is not an LLLC specialist, but she´s the only one available in town) told me to pump every 2 hs for 48 hs to see if there´s an increase in my supply and i been doing it for 24 hs with less results (5 oz) and sore nipples!!!! besides that my daughter started acting fussy at my breast AGAIN and seems like she´s starving. SHOULD I KEEP PUMPING LIKE THE LC TOLD ME????

    4. Has anyone tried More Milk by Motherlove?? what about Bach´s Rescue Remedy???

    5. Should i quit???? I think i been trying all with no results and no support from a doctor or my family. Am I crazy for keep trying?? I NEED ANSWERS, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!

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    Default Re: Desperate mom

    do you have a local lll leader you can call they can help beter then we can on-line.
    Heres a link to look one up.
    http://www.lalecheleague.org/WebUS.html
    Lots of moms have this same problem, the baby needs more milk then they can pump.
    IS the baby nursing any at your breast? Babies are beter at getting out milk then the pump.
    Breastfeeding doesn't have to be all or nothing, and every little bit of milk that she gets is great for her. You don't have to feal bad if you do everything right and then have to add some formula.
    Have you thought about ditching bottles and using some other way to feed baby? They have high sucking needs and theese should be met at the breast and not the bottle.
    here's a story from new begings that I like:
    http://www.lalecheleague.org/NB/NBMayJun05p108.html

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    Unhappy Re: Desperate mom

    thanks for your support andrea; i looked for an lll specialist in my area but there´s no one in my town the closest is around 2 hs away. I read the article and i feel identified with her story. My baby nurses when i´m home but she´s still hungry after an hour nursing session that´s when i use supplement my fear is that i´m going to be more time away from her next week and i would lost my supply because i have seen no results with my breastpump (lactina medela)

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    Default Re: Desperate mom

    but after pumping I only can get about 9 oz daily. This is a totally respectable amount. Is this in addition to what your daughter gets from nursing?
    Please HELP!!!! here are my questions:

    1. Should i change from breastpump??? i read that sometimes changing from brands can help. I was thinking of changing from Lactina (medela) to Purely Yours (Ameda)
    Some mothers do have more success with a certain brand. It is hard to say. I did notice that you said your were getting sore nipples. Do you have the suction at a comfortable level?

    2. Should I keep taking domperidone??? I read in Dr. Jack Newman´s website that i could increase up to 30 mg/3 times per day up to 6 weeks. Is that safe??? PLEASE NOTE i forgot to tell you i have no support from my doctor so i feel unsecure to keep taking it Unfortunately I can't tell you whether or not to change your prescription. I know you said your doctor is not supportive, but that is something that you should discuss with him/her. I can suggest that you take the information from Dr. Newman's website and share it with your doctor.

    3. My lactation consultant (which is not an LLLC specialist, but she´s the only one available in town) told me to pump every 2 hs for 48 hs to see if there´s an increase in my supply and i been doing it for 24 hs with less results (5 oz) and sore nipples!!!! besides that my daughter started acting fussy at my breast AGAIN and seems like she´s starving. SHOULD I KEEP PUMPING LIKE THE LC TOLD ME????
    What were you pumping before? Could you explain to me again the number of times dd nurses and you pump in 24 hours? I just want to be clear on this!

    4. Has anyone tried More Milk by Motherlove?? what about Bach´s Rescue Remedy???Maybe some of the other moms here can chime in on this. I know many moms find herbal galactogogues to be helpful.

    5. Should i quit???? I think i been trying all with no results and no support from a doctor or my family. Am I crazy for keep trying?? I NEED ANSWERS, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!

    No and No! You are certainly not crazy for wanting give your daughter your own milk. Are you happy that she is getting some milk at this point? Are you happy that she is breastfeeding from your breast? What would you like to see improve right now? Supply? Her contentedness at your breast?

    If you would like more insight on why she seems unhappy nursing, we can delve into that further. But I think it might be helpful for me to have a little more info first! Hang in there...

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    Default Re: Desperate mom

    1. Should i change from breastpump??? i read that sometimes changing from brands can help. I was thinking of changing from Lactina (medela) to Purely Yours (Ameda)

    ***Could you try hand expressing after purchasing a new pump? You might find that it really helps you drain the breast. I'm including a link to the Marmet technique of manual expression. You might also find the tips for assisting MER found the same page helpful, especially before you pump! http://www.lactationinstitute.org/MANUALEX.html

    2. Should I keep taking domperidone??? I read in Dr. Jack Newman´s website that i could increase up to 30 mg/3 times per day up to 6 weeks. Is that safe??? PLEASE NOTE i forgot to tell you i have no support from my doctor so i feel unsecure to keep taking it.

    ***I can't tell you whether or not to continue taking the Domperidone, but I can provide you with the dosage information that I have on hand.

    On page 523 of The Breastfeeding Answer Book (2003):
    "Domperidone is approved for use by breastfeeding mothers by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP Committee on Drugs 2001)...The recommmended dose is 20 mg four times per day (Newman and Pitman pg 89)"

    You might find these (non-LLL) resources helpful:
    http://www.bfar.org/domperidone.shtml
    http://www.asklenore.info/breastfeed...q/howlong.html


    3. My lactation consultant (which is not an LLLC specialist, but she´s the only one available in town) told me to pump every 2 hs for 48 hs to see if there´s an increase in my supply and i been doing it for 24 hs with less results (5 oz) and sore nipples!!!! besides that my daughter started acting fussy at my breast AGAIN and seems like she´s starving. SHOULD I KEEP PUMPING LIKE THE LC TOLD ME????

    ***Were you pumping in addition to nursing?

    Could you try breast compressions as your dd nurses? This will help her to obtain more milk for her efforts:
    http://www.kellymom.com/newman/15bre...mpression.html

    4. Has anyone tried More Milk by Motherlove?? what about Bach´s Rescue Remedy???

    ***I don't know much about either. If nobody else chimes in, do let us know. I'm sure we could locate some information for you.

    5. Should i quit???? I think i been trying all with no results and no support from a doctor or my family. Am I crazy for keep trying?? I NEED ANSWERS, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!!!!!!

    ***I can't tell you what to choose, but I can tell you that you ARE seeing results. Pumping nine ounces is nothing to sneeze at. Did you know that some mothers have PLENTY of milk, yet cannot pump a drop? Please remember that pumping is NOT a valid indicator of supply.

    You are NOT crazy to keep trying. Your doctor or family might not support you, but we do.

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