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Thread: Green Mucusy Poo - Not Allergies - Too Much Foremilk? Help

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    Question Green Mucusy Poo - Not Allergies - Too Much Foremilk? Help

    First time poster here!

    I am going to give you guys my whole story because I want any mamas having the same problem as I was to know that green mucusy poop isn't always allergies!

    My son was born at 7 lbs. He had a problem latching on, partly I think because of my very large breasts, flat nipples and engorgement. So after about a week of struggling and him becoming dehydrated, we gave into bottles. I really wanted to have that wonderful breastfeeding relationship with him so I tried a nipple shield and it worked perfectly. It was a hassle, but I actually got to breastfeed my baby.

    At his 2 month appointment, he gained 4 lbs and was doing great. I ended up going back to work around then and he was eating from bottles and I was still using the nipple shield.

    When he was about 10 weeks, I quit my job to stay at home with him and weaned him off the shield. He latched on great! Around this time he started sleeping through the night as well. And when I say STTN, I mean 10-12 hours. He also started getting these green mucusy poops. A few weeks later, just because, I stepped on the scale with him to see if he had gained anymore. He was still around 11 lbs and so I got nervous. I made an appointment with my LC to check his weight and indeed he was 11 lbs 6 oz. My LC was concerned and told me to start feeding him every 2 hours during the day from both breasts(I was feeding him every 3-4 hours only from 1 breast) and to start taking Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle to boost my supply. I did this and started taking the supplements but TMI they gave me terrible stomach cramps and diarrhea, although I do think they boosted my supply. Before them, my little guy would pull off my breast after a few minutes, like he didn't have enough milk.

    I came back to my LC a week later and he gained 4 oz which we were happy about! While we were there, he pooped and my LC wanted see it and I opened it up and there was BLOOD in his diaper, as well as green poo. I had never seen that before. My LC told me to make an appointment with my pediatrician to do an allergy test because that was probably the reason of the slow weight gain and green mucusy poops with blood.

    I made the appointment and his allergy tests all came back negative! The ped wanted to do more bloodwork and send us to a pediatric GI specialist. I knew that this was unnecessary and that it was a milk problem because it only started once I was exclusively breastfeeding without a nipple shield or bottles.

    I did a ton of research online but didn't find anyone with a problem exactly like mine. Everyone else ended up having allergies with the mucusy poo. As I put everything together, I realized that he started sleeping through the night around the time of the green poop, and that green poop in some cases means a foremilk hindmilk imbalance. I didn't pump during the night, so I woke up very very full. I also knew that I could get 5+ oz from one breast at my morning feed (from pumping, so possibly more) and when I let the milk sit in the fridge for a couple days, there was only a thin layer of fatty milk on top. Maybe 1/4 of an oz.

    So I took it upon myself to pump out some milk at the morning feed only to see if this was the issue. For 2 days I pumped out 2 oz before I let him feed in the morning. Then today, his poop turned back yellow! Not to mention he pooped 3 times, when normally he only poops once a day or every 2 days. So fingers crossed that the poop stays yellow!

    My question is, am I going to have to pump every morning until I am done breastfeeding? I have read from a lot of mamas that your body regulates itself, but it's been two months since this started and still no regulation. What gives? I'm happy to pump every morning if that means yellow poo, but if there was a way to get around pumping, I'd also be happy.

    I also wanted to mention that I stepped on the scale at home (which was surprisingly accurate last time I tried it) and he weighed 12 lbs 4 oz a week or so ago. So he is now gaining weight properly. Frankly, and sadly, I think that I just wasn't feeding him enough. He never really cries, not even when he is hungry! So I am continuing to feed him every 2 hours from both breasts.

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    Default Re: Green Mucusy Poo - Not Allergies - Too Much Foremilk? He

    Does baby still take a long sleep stretch of greater than 6 hours with no nursing? How often was baby nursing otherwise?

    Infrequent nursing and/or that long stretch could be the root of all issues, slow gain, poops, getting engorged at night, etc. The reason this causes the poop issue is that the longer the breast "fills up" between nursing sessions, the more milk there is IN the breasts. Since the higher lactose milk comes at the start of the feeding, baby gets lots of that and little or no hind milk, because baby fills up on the high lactose milk.

    High lactose milk is perfectly healthy, real milk, and as long as baby is getting enough of it, baby gains fine on it and it is not going to harm baby. But too much of it all at once can cause the poop issues you were seeing-in SOME babies.

    Obviously this is fixed easily, but it may take a little time, by encouraging baby to nurse more often, including overnight. So, no, you certainly should not have to pump before every nursing session. If the problem is a high lactose content during the feeding, that is most easily solved by nursing more often. Also, now that baby is gaining well, no need to encourage baby to take both breasts each time. This is a milk production increasing technique, and not necessary unless you have low milk production. Let baby decide how long to nurse and whether to take one or both sides, but gently encourage more frequent nursing, night and day.

    frequent nursing should help things regulate faster. If you continue to pump, you are asking your body to make more milk than your baby needs so, no, your production will not regulate. So I suggest any pumping be on an only-as-needed basis. If you start feeling full, encourage baby to nurse before reaching for the pump. If you need to pump, pump just enough to feel comfortable. Try to not pump before sessions, but, if needed, maybe hand express or just take baby off once the letdown is triggered, let the milk flow into a cloth, and then re-latch baby.

    Also, green poops. mucous in poop, and even blood in poop can be entirely normal and not any issue at all.
    Last edited by @llli*maddieb; August 6th, 2015 at 07:22 PM.

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    Default Re: Green Mucusy Poo - Not Allergies - Too Much Foremilk? He

    He nurses every 2 hours during the day and sleeps 10-12 hours at night. So I'm definitely getting a large buildup of milk for the morning feed. He does not dream feed very well, and once he is woken up he tends to stay up, even during the night. Is there any other way to regulate my morning milk without nursing during the night?

    Also, if I only pump a little bit before the morning feed to take off some of the foremilk, is that telling my body to produce more?

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Green Mucusy Poo - Not Allergies - Too Much Foremilk? He

    He nurses every 2 hours during the day and sleeps 10-12 hours at night. So I'm definitely getting a large buildup of milk for the morning feed. He does not dream feed very well, and once he is woken up he tends to stay up, even during the night. Is there any other way to regulate my morning milk without nursing during the night
    Well, you could pump instead, but that is not really a good option for several reasons. I would strongly suggest, figure out a way to nurse baby more at night. 10-12 hours as a regular thing every night is an extremely long time for a baby of any age to not be nursing or eating, and so I really think that is where the bulk of your problem is, because biologically baby not nursing for half the day is sending very confused message to your body, never mind what this is doing to baby's tummy. Do you bedshare? Roomshare? Does baby take a pacifier at night, or are they swaddled? What if you try nursing baby at least one time before you go to sleep yourself?

    Also, if I only pump a little bit before the morning feed to take off some of the foremilk, is that telling my body to produce more?
    Yes, Any time milk is removed from the breast by anything except baby, it is telling your body to make more milk than baby needs. (Unless of course the pump session is replacing nursing session such as as, when mom is pumping at work and baby is getting a bottle instead of nursing at that time.) Of course, you have to do what you have to do- if pumping is the only option, pump as infrequently and as short a time as needed to take care of the problem. The less you are pumping, the less over production issues you will have.

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