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    Default 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    At three weeks, we introduced bottles of pumped milk because our baby was having latching/suction-breaking problems that led to her throwing up copius amounts of milk at pretty much every feeding. I could hear "smacking" noises as she sucked (on the breast), and was aware that she was gulping air, so I would break her frequently to burp. If I was not frequent enough, the burps would produce huge gushes of regurgitated milk. I was frustrated and sore, and started to dread feeding her, so we did what we had to do.

    Now, at 5 weeks, we are back to breastfeeding most of the time, but she is still sucking air almost every time. She turns out her bottom lip just fine now, but her top lip seems permanently turned under when feeding. She has the tiniest little mouth - I have seen lactation specialists and feel like I have tried everything, but we cannot get a good, solid, consistent seal of mouth to breast. I do not blame nipple confusion, because this has been happening since way before we introduced the bottle. When I am really full (i.e., breasts that look and feel like basketballs) the issue is worse and I spend the whole feeding trying to pinch my nipple flatter so that she can get and stay on there.

    Does anyone else out there hear a lot of "smacking" when breastfeeding? I read somewhere that this is a bad thing, but I am starting to feel like it is just the way it is supposed to be. I hate breaking her off to burp her all the time, but I can't think of any other way to keep her from throwing up everywhere. Is there really a problem, or is this just the way it goes?? Help!

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    Default Re: 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    If it's a clicking noise, it's a broken seal. do you help to pull her lip out or do you leave it tucked under?

    Maybe a LLL leader could help. You can contact obe through this site.

    Hang in there. It sounds like the problem might correct itself as she gets bigger and you keep working on getting a wide open mouth each time.

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    I hear the gulped air and I wince... I know how you feel. It means really bad gas later, I never seem to be able to burp it back out. my ds is 5 weeks too. Sounds like your having a rough time, hang in there!

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    IME the clicking noise has been a GOOD thing. My son used his tongue to regulate the flow when my OALD was too much for him. It was how he began to regulate his intake w/out choking or popping off.
    Also try not to feel terrible about spit up. The shphincters (sp) at the top of their little tummies isn't firm yet. Babies spit up. It has nothing to do with anything your doing. Don't dread feeding her because of it. Remember, it's a laundry problem. That's all. You guys will get through it. Some babies are just spitters. You get to put her in more cute outfits in a day!!!
    Congratulations on being committed to getting her back to the breast! It sounds like the two of you are really working at it! It also sound like you may be suffering from OALD. But that she is trying to cope. This does get better in time. Really TRY to feed her so that you aren't at the point where your breasts look like basketballs...How often are you feeding her? Does that happen if you feed her every two hours? You are correct. It causes latch problems.
    You sound like you are on track. Just remember your still working out your nursing relationship. You sound committed. You guys will figure this out.

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    Default Re: 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    Quote Originally Posted by MelissaandEvie View Post
    Does anyone else out there hear a lot of "smacking" when breastfeeding? I read somewhere that this is a bad thing, but I am starting to feel like it is just the way it is supposed to be. I hate breaking her off to burp her all the time, but I can't think of any other way to keep her from throwing up everywhere. Is there really a problem, or is this just the way it goes?? Help!
    My LO is 2 months now (started nursing at 3 weeks old) and she does the same thing. We are still working on her latch issue and she gulps air, grunts (she also only poops when eating so it may be part of the problem), pops on and off A Lot, stops to lick it like an ice cream cone and even when latched well she makes a LOT of noise. I burp her as much as I can without taking the breast away and making her too mad. My local LLL leader told me it was a latch problem and my LO was a little bit of a weak suckler. She said this will improve with time and practice. She is getting better each week so there is hope for you!! Also, I found that if we keep her upright for 15 - minutes after eating she will burp more and spit up less. The drawback is sometimes at night she thinks this means it is play time and becomes very active, often not going to sleep before the next feeding (2.5 hours later).

    I wish you the best, it sounds like you are doing a wonderful job working through it!!
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    Default Re: 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    Wow - thank you for all the support!

    Yes - definitely a latch/suction problem, but it seems to be getting better and better. I feed on demand, but that is definitely not every two hours. I am not a proponent of the "wake to feed" philosophy. She just gets frustrated or passes right back out. She is a big baby - has been from the start, so she takes good-sized meals and sleeps for 3-4 hours regularly.

    We are still working on it! Thank you again for the support and great advice!!

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    Glad things seem to be going better! I just wanted to pass on a (non-LLL) link of some babies latching. Dr Jack Newman is a well respected breastfeeding professional and his work is often referenced in LLL literature:

    http://www.thebirthden.com/Newman.html

    A lot of mothers have reported this site was very helpful in getting their baby latched properly.

    Hang in there!
    Jen
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    Default Re: 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    Jen,
    Thank you so much for this link. After just watching the videos once, I was able to get my LO to latch properly. I had been doing it all wrong. And there was no pain! I couldn't believe it.

    Also, she had been fussing so much at the breast, but this time she just laid there and ate! And for the first time, she didn't throw up after she ate. She must have just been getting too much air with the bad latch.

    Thanks again.

    For the rest of you, I highly recommend checking out that site.

    Good luck!

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    Default Re: 5 Weeks - still latch problems

    those are great videos on that site!!

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