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    Default Terrible rash and screaming at breast

    I'm very worried about my LO and don't know what to do. I have a 7 wk old that I am exclusively breastfeeding. He's developed a terrible rash all over his face that has spread to his neck and behind his ears. I took him to the doc and she seemed to think it was just a typical newborn rash and dry skin that should clear on its own given time. My gut tells me otherwise. He seems extremely bothered by the rash rubbing at it which I course makes it worse. In addition he is not a happy nurser- often times he literally screams at the breast unlatches only to latch again to scream some
    more. He is gaining well (9 lb 9oz at 7 wks up from 6 lb 14 oz
    BW). I've seen a lactation specialist and she said his latch is good and his weight gain is spot on. He rarely nurses to sleep- I usually have to rock him or comfort him some other way which is so different from my first who nursed to sleep all the time and for long sessions. He also rarely comfort nurses and most sessions only last about 10-15 min total. Rarely takes both breasts, though he often wants to eat again an hour or so later for 5-10 min more. Nurses every 1-3 hrs expect for one longer sleep break at night which just started- last night he went 5 hrs w/ o nursing. And this continues all day. He is rarely content unless sleeping. He is fussier in the evening but will fuss at the breast sometimes during the day. I have strong let downs which often makes him choke and come off the breast sometimes ending the session prematurely- I have to at least give him a break and coax him back on. I don't know if the fussiness and rash are related but I do know I have one unhappy LO and I feel so heartbroken and frustrated aty inability to comfort him. I want to miss for as long as he is willing but feel exhausted and question if this working and if I am doing he right thing. I need help! I'm a mess and cry all the time over this- especially when I can't console him and feel as though I'm making him cry by breastfeeding. Please help.
    Few additional questions: last night was the first time he went 5 hrs w/ o nursing then today I got my period (WTH)- didn't get mine for 8 mo w/ my first. Does this mean something is wrong?
    Are the short nursing sessions a concern, either for baby or my supply in the long run? So different than my 1st.
    Don't mean to be dramatic but my heart aches over this.
    Last edited by @llli*davidsmomma; November 12th, 2014 at 02:19 PM.
    First-time mom to David Alan, born 5-20-12. Enjoying maternity leave for his 1st 5 months and then returning to full-time work as a school social worker and nursing mom.





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    Default Re: Terrible rash and screaming at breast

    No advice, but this is practically the same situation I'm having with my 8 week old daughter, down to my first baby nursing forever as well. These short sessions are making me nervous too! I'll be curious to see how people respond to your post.

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    Default Re: Terrible rash and screaming at breast

    it is not uncommon for milk supply to be bigger with subsequent babies and an active letdown tends to make for faster nursing. If let downs are so strong (as in if you unlatch for the letdown you have milk spraying out) you could unlatch baby and let the spray go into a towel till it calms a little then latch baby back on so he doesn't have the discomfort of the strong spray to deal with.

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    Default Re: Terrible rash and screaming at breast

    I never spray milk when I unlatch. In fact, I rarely leak. The only reason I believe I have a strong letdown is because I feel it letdown and then immediately he gulps, chokes, and often lets go almost as if gasping for breath. You can hear him struggling to catch his breath as he tries to swallow and breath at the same time as if he is getting too much too fast. I didn't spray milk with my first either. If I squeeze my breast a stream does shoot out but never on it's own. I'm so confused.

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    Default Re: Terrible rash and screaming at breast

    http://kellymom.com/bf/got-milk/supp.../fast-letdown/
    I believe she meant hand express into a towel through the let down if you're not actively leaking. The above article has a lot of tips for dealing with an overactive let down. Very frequent nursing sessions and laid back nursing (or nursing upright in a sling) have been the most helpful for my sons.
    It is incredibly disheartening to have a constantly inconsolable baby. I've dealt with substantial oversupplies and dairy allergies with both my boys. Ah, sorry i can't finish right yet. Come back later.

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    How is baby's latch? Any pain there?
    I only ask because sometimes a tongue/lip ties can affect how well babies can deal with the flow of milk even if it isn't a very fast letdown. (Mine could choke and my milk supply and letdown have always been low and underactive we did eventually get his tongue and lip ties corrected and also needed help from a speech therapist for oral motor therapy.)

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    Does this sound like a possible dairy allergy? I wondered with the rash but doc didn't mention it. The rash is pretty bad, covering his entire face (poor baby). And he seems bothered by it, rubbing his hands on it and crying. He also seems uncomfortable (like gassy, spit up etc) but know that can be normal in babies. My latch seems to be good- no pain whatsoever and milk transfer good/ weight gain ok. Just want to find a way to make nursing enjoyable for both of us. I feel like he is not happy nursing and while I do not want to give up some evenings when it gets really bad I don't think I can continue.

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    Although this diagnosis wouldn't solve anything, (except for giving a fairly predictable end-date around 3-4 months to look forward to), have you considered if your baby meets the 3-3-3 criteria for colic? Three hours of consecutive crying for atleast three days, three weeks in a row.

    When you discussed the rash with the pediatrician, how did that conversation go? Did the doctor describe what about the rash he/she felt to be normal, and did you have the opportunity to describe what about it was troubling? Even if the rash is normal, did you discuss with the doctor some symptom-relief options? Over the counter creams or whathaveyou?

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    "Just want to find a way to make nursing enjoyable for both of us. I feel like he is not happy nursing and while I do not want to give up some evenings when it gets really bad I don't think I can continue."

    Mama, those evenings can be SO rough. I also remember those times when my little one was really really little still, and she'd be cuing up a storm, but for whatever reason would refuse to latch, and get really frustrated, and then I would get frustrated and sad and mad and unsure and confused...! Because it sounds really irrational to say and to feel, but it would feel like baby is rejecting YOU, and it feels awful. And your running on empty because it's the end of the day and your body is tired and you're sore and just at the end of the rope, and you know, baby probably is too. It is rough! Do you have a partner or other family there in the evening that can help out? Obviously they can't breastfeed, but just to hold and bounce baby for twenty minutes or so to let you reset? Or take a shower or eat or step out in the fresh air or whatever it would be for you that would give you that moment to breathe?

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    some of the trouble could be colic or it could be normal or it could be allergy.
    There is a link to a protocol about doing elimination diets floating around. If YOU feel it is probably an allergy you could try eliminating the most likely culprit, animal milk, for a couple weeks and see if the problem clears up, if so then try having a big dose of it again and see if the problem comes back, if so then you may have found the problem. If not then start drinking milk again and try another likely culprit, but be sure not to go cutting everything out at once because then you are left with almost nothing to nourish you and you won't know what if anything is causing the problem.

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