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    Unhappy 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Supply

    Just a little background...my DD was born 3 days past her due date...latched on right after birth and nursed for an hour & left the hospital latching on and nursing like a champ. Fast forward to about a week and half ago and started having lots of issues....With all my children I have had an oversupply problem and over active let down but they both handled it well and/or we lived through it....now with my newest DD I'm having lots of problems.

    She will scream the exact same times every day for anywhere between 2 & 3 hours combined ( not all at once but the exact same times every day ) I can get her to stop crying unless I bounce on a excersise ball and sometimes that doesn't even help....she also will spit up 1-2 hours AFTER nursing and it curled milk with clear fluid and she acts like it hurts and will cough and cry. She also have HORRIBLE gas! I have really noticed her starting to "click" while nursing like she breaking suction and sucking air maybe?

    She has more than enough wet diapers and gaining just fine.

    My hope/question would be someone who has experienced this and what you did to help it? Is the crying just from a growth spurt or true colic? Im thinking maybe we need to work on her latch ( she is not tongue tied at all ) and then as far as the other issues could they all just be from my OALD & OS? Im at my wits end and exhausted. Looking for some support and not to be lectured ( I have posted this question on different websites messages boards and gotten my butt chewed ) hope I can find some help here....
    Wife & Mother to 3 Girlies: Feb. 2010 (.)(.)--May 2012 (.)(.) & Aug. 2014

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    Yes it could just be from OALS and OS. I ma not sure what true colic means because I have never seen a firm way of diagnosing this...to me, it does also sound like classic 'colic' which (as far as I know) basically and unhelpfully means, unexplained sustained crying of an hour or more at about the same time every day. The only good news about 'colic' is it is usually a temporary thing. As are issues from OS, usually.

    The spit up being painful could indicate gerd, I mean, that is a typical sign. askdrsears.com and Kellymom.com both have good articles on gerd imo. But so much of what helps with fast letdown also helps with gerd.

    Between my three kids, I have dealt with OALD, OS, diagnosed Gerd and colic. One we did use Gerd meds, one clicked when nursing, two had the classic "same time of day sustained crying" type colic...Here is what helped the most in all cases.

    Very Frequent nursing, usually, one side at a time.
    Laid back nursing positioning, or nursing in any position that let baby be more 'upright' -head above tum, more of less-while nursing. Sidelying nursing helped too.
    Holding baby most of the time in an upright position (Baby's head above baby's tum)
    Gently helping baby burp if there seemed to be trapped air.

    We did do meds for a short time with my oldest son, and I do think meds can help when the issue is truly gerd. However, it is overdiagnosed.
    For the sustained crying, changing sensory input was the only thing that helped. Taking baby outside, running vacuum, bouncing around.... I once held my daughter under the oven fan as it was the only thing that stopped the wailing!

    Hope this helps. Not sure what other people would find fault with? These issues are a pretty common concern.

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    http://kellymom.com/parenting/parenting-faq/fussybaby/

    Great advice above. So sorry you're dealing with this. I think my family is still traumatized by my youngest's fussiness. Hours of screaming is very stressful. Thankfully it does not last! I'll add that wearing baby in an ergo or ring sling was key to calming my little one down. Bonus if I went outside while he was in it. It was amazing when we got the hang of nursing in his sling because I could let him nap without jostling his body, which really set off his reflux. We never needed meds as cutting out dairy really made a huge difference. After that we just gave it time.
    Oversupply issues didn't start until my supply increased enough at approx. 3 weeks. I try to feed very frequently. Like every hour or less. Ice packs helped calm the flow with my oldest and gave me some relief also. Nursing in the sling or reclined at a maybe 60` angle lets the baby control the flow the best he's able. He clicks through my let down too.

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    That sounds like colic to me. Colic follows the "rule of three"- unexplained crying for 3 or more hours a day, 3 or more days a week, for 3 or more weeks at a time, in a baby who is otherwise well-fed and healthy. Bonus points if the behavior is predictable, occurring around the same time every day, and if it starts or markedly intensifies around 3 weeks of age.

    Both of my kids were colicky evening screamers. Here's what helped:
    - Remember that this will not last forever!!!
    - Nurse. Nurse nurse nurse and nurse some more. You can't scream if there's a breast in your mouth.
    - Calm house. Turn the lights, TV, and stereo down or off when evening rolls around.
    - White noise. Radio static, heartbeat sounds, water running in a tub, sound of wheels on pavement, etc.
    - Motion. Put baby in a swing, swing, stroller, or carseat and go. Or rock, bounce, sway, etc.
    - Skin-to skin contact- cuddle baby close to bare chest.
    - Warm water- give baby in a warm, soap-free bath in the sink.
    - Trip outside- take baby out in fresh air.

    When you're coping with colic, no soothing technique is likely to work for long. So you keep changing it up- when one thing fails, try the next. You just want to buy yourself 5 minutes of calm!

    Finally, if it gets so distressing that you really can't cope, feel free to put the baby down in a safe place and step outside.

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    Thank you for all your replys.

    Has anyone ever used probiotics ( powdered or the Gerber Soothe Drops) and seen results? I have seen so many forum posts about it working wondering for their kids? Just curios anyone else experience?

    Also I have read to not start cutting foods out of your diet till after 6 weeks cause so many things can change and improve by then? thoughts on this? I absolutely LOVE my cereal with milk in the morning and a few other dairy items ( they make up a huge part of my everyday meals ) and soooo scared I will have to cut this stuff out and I guess hoping there is light at the end of the tunnel that maybe at 6 weeks a lot of these issues just solve themselves so to speak?
    Wife & Mother to 3 Girlies: Feb. 2010 (.)(.)--May 2012 (.)(.) & Aug. 2014

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    I tried the oven fan last night and she stopped crying for a little bit. Thank you for that suggestion

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*maddieb View Post
    Yes it could just be from OALS and OS. I ma not sure what true colic means because I have never seen a firm way of diagnosing this...to me, it does also sound like classic 'colic' which (as far as I know) basically and unhelpfully means, unexplained sustained crying of an hour or more at about the same time every day. The only good news about 'colic' is it is usually a temporary thing. As are issues from OS, usually.

    The spit up being painful could indicate gerd, I mean, that is a typical sign. askdrsears.com and Kellymom.com both have good articles on gerd imo. But so much of what helps with fast letdown also helps with gerd.

    Between my three kids, I have dealt with OALD, OS, diagnosed Gerd and colic. One we did use Gerd meds, one clicked when nursing, two had the classic "same time of day sustained crying" type colic...Here is what helped the most in all cases.

    Very Frequent nursing, usually, one side at a time.
    Laid back nursing positioning, or nursing in any position that let baby be more 'upright' -head above tum, more of less-while nursing. Sidelying nursing helped too.
    Holding baby most of the time in an upright position (Baby's head above baby's tum)
    Gently helping baby burp if there seemed to be trapped air.

    We did do meds for a short time with my oldest son, and I do think meds can help when the issue is truly gerd. However, it is overdiagnosed.
    For the sustained crying, changing sensory input was the only thing that helped. Taking baby outside, running vacuum, bouncing around.... I once held my daughter under the oven fan as it was the only thing that stopped the wailing!

    Hope this helps. Not sure what other people would find fault with? These issues are a pretty common concern.
    Wife & Mother to 3 Girlies: Feb. 2010 (.)(.)--May 2012 (.)(.) & Aug. 2014

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    Default Re: 3.5 Week Old: Colic,Reflux or Overactive Letdown/Over Su

    Has anyone ever used probiotics ( powdered or the Gerber Soothe Drops) and seen results? I have seen so many forum posts about it working wondering for their kids? Just curios anyone else experience?
    Never used them, but wish I had. There was a good study showing that use of probiotics was associated with lessened intensity of colicky crying.

    Also I have read to not start cutting foods out of your diet till after 6 weeks cause so many things can change and improve by then? thoughts on this? I absolutely LOVE my cereal with milk in the morning and a few other dairy items ( they make up a huge part of my everyday meals ) and soooo scared I will have to cut this stuff out and I guess hoping there is light at the end of the tunnel that maybe at 6 weeks a lot of these issues just solve themselves so to speak?
    Yes, exactly! So much can change in the first 6 weeks, and so many moms throw themselves down the dietary elimination rabbit hole without real evidence of a problem. Give yourself and your baby some time before you start cutting anything.

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