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    Default Fridge to freezer to fridge to warmer to .... ???

    OK, I feel like I've read the entire internet (including the storage guidelines on LLLI, kellymom, and bulk of that 40-page lipase thread) but I still am confused!

    My situation is this: I may or may not have a lipase issue. My frozen milk tastes slightly soapy but not completely horrible to me, and baby will still take it (albeit somewhat grudgingly). My refrigerated milk seems to taste fine and not soapy even at 5-7 days out.

    I don't anticipate being able to freeze that much going forward, but I am considering scalding to make sure the milk I CAN freeze going forward doesn't have to get tossed. So my questions are:

    1) Do you think I have a lipase issue based on the above?
    2) Is it bad that I let my baby drink soapy milk?
    3) Can I scald and freeze milk that has already been refrigerated for 1-2 days?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Fridge to freezer to fridge to warmer to .... ???

    It's not bad for baby to drink the soapy milk. Some babies won't but it sounds like yours will. Generally with lipase the sooner you can freeze the milk the better, but if you do have a lipase issue, it sounds fairly mild, since your milk is still okay after 5-7 days in the fridge. There's no harm in scalding the milk after 1-2 days, but it just gives more time for the lipase to act. I guess you can do a test scald and freeze and see if that makes a difference on the soapy taste. Another possibility is that the milk is picking up odors/tastes from the freezer. You could try a different type of container (for example, if you're using plastic, try a glass bottle) and/or moving the milk to a different part of the freezer.

    You're probably seen this already, but just in case:
    http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/m...expressedmilk/

    ETA:
    Lipase can come and go, so if you decide not to routinely scald, keep an eye on your frozen stash to see if there's a worsening lipase issue over the months.

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    Default Re: Fridge to freezer to fridge to warmer to .... ???

    Thanks so much for the response. I feel bad making her drink gross milk but I would rather her drink it than have it go to waste. Possible good side effect is that I worry she's developing a bottle preference at day care, and giving her gross stuff during her last feed of the day may make her want to nurse more.

    I am storing in lansinoh bags mostly, frozen flat/upright in one of those containers specifically for freezing EBM. Any recommendations for different freezing methods?

    Am I understanding correctly that once the soapy taste is there, there is nothing you can do to remove it, e.g. scalding it after thawing, thawing it a certain way, etc.?

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    Default Re: Fridge to freezer to fridge to warmer to .... ???

    Unfortunately, that's right - if the soapiness is due to lipase there's nothing you can do retroactively, because the lipase has already done its thing. But think of it this way, you've caught it early - sometimes moms have months of milk in the freezer before they realize that there may be a lipase problem.

    I'm not familiar with the EBM-freezing container. Is it sealed? Since you're freezing in bags, you could try freezing in a bottle, preferably a glass one, to see if that makes a difference. If you're not freezing much it may be reasonable to use bottles to freeze, but they take up more space (and are more costly). Or you could try a different brand of bag to see if the makes a difference. If your container can't be sealed, you could try sticking the bags in a tupperware to see if that makes a difference. I think you just have to try different options. But if you scald the milk and you don't get the soapy taste, that would argue strongly in favor of a lipase problem, rather than a storage issue, in that case you just scald and continue freezing in the same way (ie the lansinoh bags).

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