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    Default 2 day old with shallow latch

    My son is 2 days old and is my second child. I nursed my daughter and didn't have too many problems with latching initially. My son keeps getting a shallow latch and my nipples are sore and blistered! I've tried getting him to open his mouth wider and then basically shove the nipple in as far as I can, but I don't know if my timing is bad or what, but it doesn't seem to be effective. Does he maybe just have a smaller mouth so is having a hard time getting a good latch? Could it be because he's still only getting colostrum and is too anxious to get his belly full of "regular" milk? Any advice would be so much appreciated!
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    DD born 7/14/2011 7 lbs. 10 oz.
    DS born 5/31/2013 8 lbs. 6.5 oz.

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    In the early days baby is learning to nurse, and mom is learning baby. Sometimes it takes a bit more adjusting to get things right. But if you are having latch pain and injury, especially if it is getting worse rather than better, it might be a good idea to get in person assistance if at all possible.

    Sometimes it is best to basically get baby into a workable position and simply let baby latch, other times mom has to be more proactive in helpinh baby take the breast in a way it won't hurt.

    Have you gone back to latch 'basics'- baby turned fully to mom, (so baby does not have to turn head to latch,) and baby's head tilted slightly back so baby has room to get a nice mouthful?

    here is some latch and positioning info I like

    Tips with pictures on latch and different positioning ideas (includes side lying) http://www.llli.org/faq/positioning.html

    Laid back position http://www.llli.org/docs/00000000000...astfeeding.pdf

    Laid back video http://www.biologicalnurturing.com/video/bn3clip.html

    Here are two simple pictorials, you want the one on latch. (you could also read the info on tongue tie, of course.) Notice that the mother is in a “slightly” laid back position, looks like on a couch? This is a very “adjustable” position, play around to find how you and your baby are most comfortable. http://cwgenna.com/quickhelp.html

    latch and 'Breast sandwich' article http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/lv/lvfebmar04p3.html (probably only needed if baby cannot latch or latch is hurting mom)

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    Default Re: 2 day old with shallow latch

    with LLLMeg.

    Has someone checked baby for a tongue tie?
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    Default Re: 2 day old with shallow latch

    Thanks for the tips and resources! Perhaps I have just forgotten what it's like to adjust to nursing and only remember baby latching easily after practice.

    He is now 5 days old and it's getting better. At his first check-up I'll ask to check him for tongue tie, but it's not really a cause for concern from what I know about tongue tie.

    We'll just keep chugging along and if things don't get better I'm sure I'll reach out again!

    Thank you again!
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    DD born 7/14/2011 7 lbs. 10 oz.
    DS born 5/31/2013 8 lbs. 6.5 oz.

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    OK good luck, let us know how things go!

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    Default Re: 2 day old with shallow latch

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*redcobra View Post
    He is now 5 days old and it's getting better. At his first check-up I'll ask to check him for tongue tie, but it's not really a cause for concern from what I know about tongue tie.
    Glad to hear that things are improving! Just want to point out that there are really 2 types of tongue ties: those that don't cause problems for breastfeeding, and those that do. If a mom has a tongue tied baby and her nipples are getting torn up, then that's probably a tongue tie that's causing problems and needs to be fixed.
    Coolest thing my big girl said recently: "How can you tell the world is moving when you are standing on it?"
    Coolest thing my little girl sang recently: "I love dat one-two pupples!"

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    Good to know. I'll be sure to address it with his PCP.
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    DD born 7/14/2011 7 lbs. 10 oz.
    DS born 5/31/2013 8 lbs. 6.5 oz.

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    Default Re: 2 day old with shallow latch

    I definitely will let you know how things go!
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    DD born 7/14/2011 7 lbs. 10 oz.
    DS born 5/31/2013 8 lbs. 6.5 oz.

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    Default Re: 2 day old with shallow latch

    We had his appointment today and no tongue tie. His latch has improved a lot since I posted this.

    I think my daughter just had a better latch right off the bat, whereas my son needed a little more guidance. No more blisters or soreness and he hardly has to be adjusted! I just needed a little patience.
    Mommy to:
    DD born 7/14/2011 7 lbs. 10 oz.
    DS born 5/31/2013 8 lbs. 6.5 oz.

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