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    Does anyone have any experience with tongue tie that has been corrected only for the baby to continue with poor technique?

    My son sometimes feeds like a pro and other times bites my nipples with his gums to the point where the areola feels bruised and the nips sore and red. I take him off and try to relatch, but all to no avail.

    Anyone with any experience?

    thanks
    Caroline

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    Hi Caroline
    It definitely sounds like his latch needs to be checked. You can click the link in my sig to get ahold of a Leader in your area!
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    Hi:
    I'm the one with the same problem as you - tongue tied clipped at 10 days and issues ever since. (Mostly from the early trauma of chewing on my nips)

    Unlike you I have been unable to get him on the breast successfully. I've tried several times only to be in a lot of pain a few days later. I then got another double infection. So I've been pumping exclusively waiting to them to heal. Trouble with that is that pumping is a way to reinjure. A vicious cycle.

    I have been working with a group of practioners that focus on breastfeeding. They are doctors, peds and LCs. They gave me the following diagnosis:

    INfection/Trauma due to short latch and pumping on high setting

    Moving forward I have been told that once he gains the weight and catches up that he may latch better. I don't know if that will happen as I can't get rid of the infection.

    Did your baby lose a lot of weight due to the tongue tied? Do you nipples have a crease at all? Even a little? They said this was a sign of a short latch.

    They did say that the assymetrical latch is the best one to do in order to achieve a deeper latch.

    Hope this helps.

    Kitty

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    Hi Kitty,

    Thanks for the note. We have been struggling on. The health visitor and La Leche league advised trying to feed from breast then express and feed expressed milk. I found this really difficult as I don't have a hospital pump and I have found it OK to feed Luca the foremilk. He tends to start chomping after things slow down a bit.

    My nips always end up at 45^ angle and I have blisters and sores along the ridge. I also feel bruised at the base of the nipple. Lucas latch also tends to slip upwards throughout the feed, and I find this difficult to correct, so I tend to switch sides lots of times.

    I have been topping up with formula as I feed from both sides and afterwards struggle to get 1/2 fluid oz out. On a 3 hour schedule there doesn't seem to be a good time to express. Luca is 5.5 weeks now and he has put on 1lb since birth. He took 3 weeks to reach birth weight again. He looks bigger and healthy and is quite alert, but I do worry he is not getting enough sometimes.

    We are battling on, trying to find a solution has become a small obsession, I guess when you spend 6 hours per day and in pain you want to sort it out.

    Have you tried the Dr Jack Newman website - it is really good and lots or articles about tongue tie. No obvious answers though.

    Keep me posted as would love to hear if you find a solution. I think it is something the baby is doing though rather then me. Have you tried putting your finger in your babies mouth part way through a feed to feel what they are doing? I found this quite helpful as I find it diffifult to feel what is going on through the breast.

    Keep in touch
    Caroline

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    Hi Kitty,

    Should also have mentioned I found the manual pump much less agressive then the automatic one. I found I could pump really slowly to start with manually until the milk got flowing. It took about 3 days for my wounds to heal so that the pain is not toe curling and shirt biting anymore, just bearable.

    Another question, are your nipples white / colourless after a feed? Mine have been and I was miss diagnosed with thrush of the milk ducts. My nips feel a more painful in the cold as well. I think this is linked to poor circulation due to the problem.

    Is your baby a big one? Luca is big and has a very strong suck, so wonder if this is the problem??

    Many questions, no answers!

    Caroline

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