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    Angry Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    I was just wondering if anyone else is having the same problem as me. I have been unsuccessful in trying to breastfeed after multiple attempts. My nipples have been cracked, sore, and have even bled. I am so determined for my baby to drink only breastmilk so I have been pumping every 3 hours to guarentee he ONLY drinks my milk. Pumping has been successful but am bumbed that I can't breasfeed . I plan to pump for a year for my LO but man is it exhausting!! Any suggestions for me??

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    Exclusively pumping is a lot of work, and it's totally understandable to want to get your baby back to nursing!

    Here's a good page about getting baby back to breast -the 'instant rewards' techniques are supposed to be pretty good http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/back-to-breast/

    Is it possible for you to see a lactation consultant, preferably an IBCLC for help with the latch issues? Also, check out Dr. Jack Newman's site for some great videos on proper latch.

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    Good advice from the PP. Definitely take a look at the kellymom link she posted, and see an IBCLC, if at all possible!

    Will baby still take the breast if you offer? And can you tell us more about your nursing experience thus far?
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    Yes, thank God he will still take the breast if I offer it to him. But now I am worried that I will not produce enough milk if I solely BF. I pump on average 5 oz. but he only drinks about 2 1/2 per feeding. This is my 4th child and I had problems with each child. I was not able to BF for more than a week with the previous 3. This is the longest I have been able to produce milk for my LO and I am so excited about it!! I was told by a LC at the hospital that his latch was good so I am not sure what the problem is. My nipple tends to look like a lipstick when he is done feeding. What does this mean?

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    How old is baby?

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    He is one month old (4 weeks)

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    2.5 ounces at a time is a normal feeding for a baby this age. It's a good feeding, in fact. Babies this age typically nurse at least 10 and often many more times in a day, and typically need about 25-30 ounces a day total, (Before this daily intake would be normally less, and it may increase slightly, it depends on baby.) Taking 5 ounces at a time from the breast would even be on the high side of normal for a much older baby. So your baby is taking from the bottle a normal amount.

    When a baby can transfer milk effectively, it is typically far easier to maintain good milk production via nursing than via pumping. Right now you are producing a very large amount each pumping session, but that may not last for long, it depends on how often you can pump and even then there are no guarantees. Milk production in the early months especially depends a good deal on the frequency of milk removal and less on how much is expressed at each nursing or pumping session.

    The troubles you have been having with the latch pain and injury indicate a 'shallow' latch. WHY a baby may have a shallow latch runs the gamut, but the severity of your injury and the fact the same(?) thing happened with your older children (assuming the issues were similar) would suggest that tongue tie or other physical issue should be at least considered. You may need to see another IBCLC (a good idea in any case) because many pediatricians still do not recognize tongue tie as the serious medical issue it can be (because it creates serious breastfeeding issues.) But a pediatrician, pediatric dentist or ENT specialist will probably have to make the diagnoses and treatment if required.

    Typically, a private appointment with an IBCLC would take about 90 minutes and be very complete, with a full history taken, mother and baby observed latching and nursing, baby's mouth examined, ideas and techniques for improving latch tried, and mother given a plan to work on whatever the problems are. When mothers see an IBCLC in the hospital, time constraints lead to stories like yours when you are told "latch looks good" when obviously either the latch was not good OR, it may have been fine (did it hurt in the hospital?) but has become a problem later once you are home and start making more milk, which is a pretty common occurrence.

    When a baby has tongue tie (or lip tie or high palate-related issues) or any type of poor latch issue, it can not only make nursing incredibly painful it can in some cases lead to baby not being able to transfer milk effectively. But poor latch is a treatable condition!

    Can you see an IBCLC? Do you know what resources are available in your area? We can give you lots of latch tips here and anything we can do to help, but when it’s to the point mom cannot nurse due to pain, I feel strongly it is time to get hands on professional help if at all possible.
    Last edited by @llli*lllmeg; March 15th, 2013 at 08:40 PM. Reason: can't spell

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    Thank you for all the wonderful suggestions! I am looking forward to meeting with a LC once I get the referral from my Dr. I will post soon

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    Default Re: Unable to breastfeed but pumping milk

    you need to be referred by the doctor? What a pain. OK I really hope that does not take long. Make sure whoever you see is an IBCLC (International Board Certified Lactation Consultant) and has experience with tongue tie and helping mothers and babies with latch issues at this age. I know it seems all would but unfortunately it is not always the case, especially when the IBCLC is not private practice but instead connected to a medical center or organization. This is because in such cases, it can be that they primarily see very young babies and/or low weight gain (a possibly related but ultimately different issue.)

    Meanwhile below are linked some latch and general ideas for you to try. I would also suggest attending local LLL or otehr breastfeeding support meetings or calling local helpers like your local Leaders(s.). If baby cannot latch and nurse, or it hurts too much so YOU cannot do it, try to aim for pumping 10 times a day if possible to maintain good production. 8 at the minimum.

    Tips on latch and positioning http://www.llli.org/faq/positioning.html

    Laid back position http://www.llli.org/docs/00000000000...astfeeding.pdf

    laid back video http://www.biologicalnurturing.com/video/bn3clip.html

    Here are two simple pictorials, one on latch, one on tongue tie http://cwgenna.com/quickhelp.html

    latch and 'Breast sandwich' article http://www.llli.org/llleaderweb/lv/lvfebmar04p3.html

    What is normal in the early weeks with a breastfed baby http://kellymom.com/bf/normal/newborn-nursing/

    Help-my baby won’t nurse! http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/back-to-breast/

    Nipple shields http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/wean-shield/

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