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    Maybe I should've added that I do have mild nipple pain but it could be due to Raynauds syndrome. They are also blanched and somewhat lipstick shaped after nursing. My pain is not what I am concerned about though. He struggles at the breast even in between letdowns. The clicking is causing him to draw in so much air I can actually hear him swallowing it. This leads to explosive poops, lots of farting and burps long after he eats. Nursing him takes as long as it did when he was a newborn and he never "drains" my breasts. Sometimes he fusses and gets angry tugging on my nipples like he can't get what he wants.

    If there is no problem I don't want to create one but if there is one I want to correct it. I tried to correct this on my own with no luck. Sometimes you let issues go until someone points them out to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*squirmama View Post
    I don't think her issue is overactive letdown alone because she says the clicking is constant. Either way, she's thinking about exclusively pumping, which isn't a choice she takes lightly, so I think it's time to get the tongue and lip evaluated by an IBCLC. I only posted about the pediatric ENT so that she'll have a starting point for doing some research on her options in case she needs to find the ENT herself (like if the LC doesn't recommend one doctor in particular). If the ENT is listed on a breastfeeding-friendly website, there's a better chance they can help. Of course you'd want to do your research either way.
    My son clicked constantly. Until he didn't. Which when he was twice the OP's babies age. And clicking is not the same as a child who is resisting eating or can't stay latched. They make noise when they eat. That's pretty much it.
    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*qd View Post
    Maybe I should've added that I do have mild nipple pain but it could be due to Raynauds syndrome. They are also blanched and somewhat lipstick shaped after nursing. My pain is not what I am concerned about though. He struggles at the breast even in between letdowns. The clicking is causing him to draw in so much air I can actually hear him swallowing it. This leads to explosive poops, lots of farting and burps long after he eats. Nursing him takes as long as it did when he was a newborn and he never "drains" my breasts. Sometimes he fusses and gets angry tugging on my nipples like he can't get what he wants.

    If there is no problem I don't want to create one but if there is one I want to correct it. I tried to correct this on my own with no luck. Sometimes you let issues go until someone points them out to you.
    So my question to you was until your SIL pointed it out, did you view it as a problem? If someone hadn't told you it wasn't normal would you be seeking all these professional opinions? Because both my LLL and My LC tried to "correct" my son's clicking. But HE didn't have a problem with the way he ate. So neither did I. If your baby isn't getting enough to eat or is showing actual consistent resistance to eating THEN I'd be concerned. But gas and being sometimes fussy and taking a long time to eat, are not things that I connect to clicking. Those are all just normal baby issues. They burp, they fart, they cry and as they grow they eat for different lengths of time depending on what they are trying to get to happen. Your post seems to me like it wasn't an issue, it was part of your NORMAL, it was how he ALWAYS ate and it worked for him. But then someone said it was bad or wrong and now you feel like it's a problem. And if that is the case I am wondering what we can do to talk you off that particualr ledge?

    Way too lazy for formula

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    I'm still thinking this sounds like a lip and/or tongue tie to me. I had the lipstick-shaped nipple for the first week and then it went away, but the other issues qd listed have remained for me. Tomorrow's the day we get his tongue and lip looked at by the ENT so hopefully things will get better from there. I'm also still taking pretty much all day to feed him since he doesn't nurse well. When other people saw him struggling at the breast and fussing they'd tell me that he just didn't want to nurse or that he was bored, but I could tell he was very hungry and just couldn't nurse well for some reason. I just wish someone had suggested the lip/tongue tie issue to me sooner. His feedings have been such an ordeal and I didn't know there was anything I could do to help so I just accepted it since none of the usual breastfeeding management suggestions helped at all. Now I feel like tomorrow could be the beginning of a new life for me and my family.

    Good luck in your search, qd.

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    It won't hurt anything (but your wallet perhaps) to get a second opinion on the tongue tie. maybe your ped doesn't have a lot of experience with tts. That said my son also clicked and gave me lipstick nipple until 5-6 months. There wasn't any constant pain though. His gas is also much better. I think sometimes moms worry too much about that and the lo's just need time to mature. You know your baby best so if your mommy instinct says something is wrong, pursue a solution. If it's simply your sister telling you so...pick and choose the advice you want to follow. Also babies swallow a lot of air with bottles as well as being a major inconvience to mom so I really don't think pumping is the best solution here.
    I'm kind of curious of what you mean by not sleeping well. Do you have a lot of experience with bfed baby's sleeping habits?

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    I asked my sister to watch to see if she thought something wasn't right. I have been going back and forth with a LLL about the issues we've neen having and she's the one who suggested it. I should've considered it first since his father has a short tongue, not sure if he's tt though. I don't feel like I'm on any sort of ledge I just want to know if I can make things better. As I said previously its getting worse. He clicks almost consistently and is struggling to get milk in between letdowns and to get the letdowns period. I can pump more efficiently than my son which isn't supposed to happen or so I think. To clarify I can get three to four letdowns pumping where he can usually only get two in twenty minutes. If it makes any difference he also clicks a lot when I give him a pacifier.

    When I say not sleeping well, several times he has woken up from sleep screaming. I pick him up and he lets out a burp. This happens over an hour after he's eaten with me doing my best to burp him right after. He wakes up from gas frequently as well. Maybe that is normal but sure doesn't seem so to me. When we give him bottles, its only been a few, he is much more content and doesn't barf like when he nurses.

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    I think it would be very helpful for you to see a professional who is capable of diagnosing and treating tongue tie and lip tie in the breastfeeding infant. A pediatrician, an ENT, or a pediatric dentist. Hopefully someone in your area can direct you or you can go back to your pediatrician and ask for a referral or a second opinion. LLL moms, Leaders and your sister (unless she is a doctor) are not going to be able to diagnose or treat this problem. Even IBCLC's -at least in the US- are not empowered to actually 'diagnose' an issue like this or treat it, although certainly many do recognize it when they see it. From what you have written here, the symptoms are consistent with forceful letdown. (forceful letdown can casue baby to compress the nipple which would explain latch pain or mishapen nipples.) They are also consistent with tongue tie, except the weight gain, which could be explained by you having lots of milk. And it is possible both things are or were occurring.

    Lots of babies have some form of tight frenulum issues, and how and if will negatively affect breastfeeding is variable. But if it IS negatively affecting breastfeeding then the right choice, healthwise, certainly, is to treat it. IMO!

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    Thank you ladies for all the information on this thread. My DS has a lot of the symptoms of tt so we utilized the information in some of the links and my dh and I tried to assess the possibility of our DS having either. It appears that he has a severe lip tie. We're going to be asking his doctor about possible problems since I know it can cause tooth decay later in life. We had no idea to even look until I read this thread so thank you! QD thank you for starting the thread.

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