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    Default S.O.S. ((on the verge of total meltdown))

    I am a first time mother and have done my "research" on breast feeding but it obviously wasnt enough. I am having serious issues. I want to give my baby breast milk and because of the demands of my life I knew going in it would be a struggle. Between finishing up nursing school, working and running my own business I knew I would have to pump. BUT NOT THIS EARLY! My baby did not take to the "boob" she was what the nurses called lazy and they told me to pump, so I started pumping. Since then my milk supply has gone down. I pump every two hours and am lucky to get one ounce. So what I need to know from all of you wonderful mothers who have became pro's is this 1) how often should i pump? 2) for how long on each breast? 3) is there something i can do or a herbal supplement i can take that will boost production 4) HOW DO I BOOST PRODUCTION? No one in my family breast fed, none of my friends breast feed or if they did gave up after a week or two and even though i am "supplementing" now I DO NOT WANT TO QUIT GIVING HER BREAST MILK since any breast milk is beneficial! HELP ME PLEASE?!?!?! BEFORE I HAVE A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN!!!!! (

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    Welcome to the forum, mama!

    I have to run and feed my kid lunch- but i will be back. can you tell us a bit more, like whether or not your baby is nursing at all, how nursing feels if she is, and how old baby is?
    Coolest thing my big girl said recently: "How can you tell the world is moving when you are standing on it?"
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    How old is baby? what is your current schedule like with pumping? what pump are you using? Have you even been seen in person by an IBCLC?
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    Okay, I'm back. To answer your specific questions:
    1. If you are nursing and pumping, you may not need to pump at all. If you are exclusively pumping, or pumping a lot because baby has trouble nursing, you need to pump frequently. Aim for 8-12 times in 24 hours, or as many times as necessary to get the milk you need.

    2. Again, the answer to this question depends on whether you're combining nursing and pumping, or exclusively pumping. If you are EP, try to pump for 10-15 minutes per breast each time you pump.

    3. There are herbs (fenugreek, blessed thistle, oatmeal) and even Rx drugs (Reglan, Domperidone) which you can take to boost production. However, no drug or herb is remotely as effective as frequent and thorough emptying of the breast, using the baby if baby will nurse, or a high-quality (think hospital-grade rental) pump if she won't.

    4. See the answer to #3, above. Frequent emptying of the breast using a high-quality pump, or getting baby to nurse. Those are the secrets to good production.
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    I would just second the recommendation that you see a lactation consultant, preferably an IBCLC, as soon as possible so that you can work on latching your baby on, develop a pumping schedule, and just get some hands on help. The best thing would be to get that baby on the breast as much as humanly possible, so that you can pump less and wean off supplements. Babies are way better at stimulating production than pumps. Some babies do take a while to latch, though, so don't panic! You can do this!! But get some local hands-on help if possible. I would also try calling your local LLL leader if you have a local group - while this forum is wonderful, real life support is even better. And your local leader may be able to recommend a great local IBCLC.


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    Are you nursing at all or EPing?
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    1) how often should i pump? 2) for how long on each breast? 3) is there something i can do or a herbal supplement i can take that will boost production 4) HOW DO I BOOST PRODUCTION?


    So here's my story, before I answer your questions.
    Baby boy born via cesarean after 50 hours of labor. (Uh huh. I said 50.)
    He had tongue tie. In the hospital after delivery, he latched for a minute, but fell asleep. I kept up with their stupid 2 hour schedule all during the hospital stay--and he latched and fell asleep often

    Nurse/Doctor: He has tongue tie, he'll NEVER breastfeed.
    Me: I'll show you!

    So.. I go see a IBCLC (board certified lactation consultant). She tells me he still hasn't regained his birth weight--he's a LAZY NURSER. He would take 15 minutes at the breast and fall asleep, not clearing enough milk to even balance out the calories he was using to nurse in the first place. You have to pump and give him milk via bottle.

    There begins my pumping journey.

    I pumped EVERY 2 hours, on the dot. Or rather, I pumped every time he'd have a feeding (every 2 hours).

    That is what is recommended if you're exclusively pumping. It's daunting to do this all damn day. Feed the baby by bottle and then have to pump. It sucks. But it's worth it.


    Honestly.. there were days when I thought, "crap..I've only made enough milk per pumping to feed him the next time he needs to eat. I'm not making enough. I'm going to have to supplement w/ formula!"

    15 to 20 minutes is advised. Which sucks even more if you don't have a double pump--and the good ones are expensive. You have the fortune of having a facility in which you work/study that may have a hospital grade pump--so while at school, you can slip away for 20 minutes and use it.

    I noticed, though, that the more hydrated and well rested/not stressed out I'd kept myself during these pumping days..the more milk I'd end up pumping.
    So, holistically.. drink LOTS and LOTs and LOTS of water. It's really not a myth. Because I started producing 4 oz at each pumping, and now, my LO is 4 weeks, nursing, and I pump 5-6 oz 3X a day.
    Keep yourself healthy and less stressed; more water, more calories, more sleep. I know it's hard because It's hard for everybody, but this is just what you have to do.


    You don't need a lactation consultant to tell you these things, BUT they are a very good support tool and would be able to guide you better than anyone else on this forum. There's only so many times you can post, frantically, "OMG WHAT DOES gREEN POOP MEAN!?" "OMG, IS MY BABY LOSING WEIGHT?!" "OMG FAILURE TO THRIVE!?" "OMG WHY DOES MY BABY TAKE 2 OUNCES FROM THE BOTTLe AFTER I BReAST FEED HIM!?"


    I'll close with this; every single day.. have your LO latch. Whether he moves milk or not isn't the point. Just as long as he knows.. hey, the breast is still there, love.
    That's how mine ended up coming back to breast.
    Desmond Ringo Payton [5.31.12|8 lb 14 oz|22 in.|blonde|blue|beautiful|BACK TO BREAST 6.25.12]

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    I don't know if the pp means to say that you don't need to see an LC, but I think (as do the other posters) that hands on help from an IBCLC can really benefit you getting baby back to the breast
    Mommy to Maxwell 10-9-07 weaned with love (a party and a remote control monster truck) on his 4th birthday
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    What a lactation consultant can really help with is getting your baby to latch better. That's something that we can't really help with over the internet, because you have to see the latch in person. But not all LCs are created equal. If you see someone who brushes off your concerns, keep looking for someone who will spend the time to do it right!


    You can call me JoMo!

    Mom to baby boy Joe, born 5/4/09 and breastfed for more than two and a half years, and baby girl Maggie, born 7/9/12.

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    SORRY ITS TAKEN ME FOREVER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO LOG INTO THIS!!! Unfortunately I am unable to breast feed because I have inverted nipples? That is what someone told me. My little girl is a week old today. My pump is not a hospital grade pump, which i wanted but the money was not there and I settled for what we could afford at the time. I pump every 1.5-2 hours depending on if I can get myself away from the baby. Every time I pump though I am pumping less and less. I am going to increase my water intake and continue to pump.

    Is there anything I can do to ensure that my milk supply does not dry up before I can meet with a lactation specialist? I am terrified I will and it is breaking my heart. I know stressing only makes it worse. Is there a possibility that my milk supply hasnt came in all the way yet? Four days ago I was engorged and had a few hard spots but nothing DRASTIC.

    Thank you ladies for all of your help! Lord knows with this and my hormones going every freaking where I am GOING CRAZY!

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