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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*esthervegan View Post
    I love my pediatrician because he
    1. is really good at diagnosing illness
    2. has convenient office hours
    3. has privileges in all the local hospitals

    And that's it. He has learned all about breastfeeding from me. If it was not for the book, "The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding" I would have mistakenly thought my doctor knew about lactation.
    This post could have been written by me! haha!

    I love our doctor for those three reasons - they are great for emergency visits (daily no-appt-necessary hours for sick kids, privileges at all the local hospitals, etc), I love their approach and philosophy on antibiotics and their relatively non-hyperactive view of childhood sickness, etc. But breastfeeding? Not so much.

    I think for issues like this it is important to give good old doc some info, so I'm the kind of person to make stuff up, like, "well, gee doc, we followed your advice and while it 'worked' getting him to sleep through the night, my breastmilk supply took a HUGE nosedive and suddenly I wasn't producing enough and he was hungry all the time. I talked to an LC and she said the primary reason was your advice. So we went back to doing some night feedings and everything got better." (though I never followed the advice or talked to an LC... heheh)

    In fact, I'll probably say just that when we go next week.

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    I agree with everyone else, your doctor doesn't know anything about breastfeeding. I am a physician myself so I am obviously not anti-medical-establishment or anything like that, but I have found that most doctors know next to nothing about breastfeeding. Our first pediatrician was telling me I shouldn't be feeding more than every 2-3 hours when my son was 2 WEEKS OLD and had had initial trouble with weight gain (one reason he is no longer my pediatrician). My current pediatrician seemed breastfeeding friendly at first, encouraged me to breastfeed exclusively until 6 months, but then at the six-month visit was telling me I should be feeding 2 meals of solids per day by 7-8 months and that by 1 year of age DS should be getting 75% of his nutrition from solids--when the AAP says breastmilk or formula should be the main source of nutrition until one year. She also encouraged me to let DS cry-it-out when we were having issues with frequent night waking--which I did not do. I like my pediatrician, I know her as a colleague (we have jointly taken care of some patients) and I know she is a good and conscientious doctor. But we obviously see things differently when it comes to many parenting issues and I am going to feel free to ignore her advice on feeding and sleep and do what I think is right. When it comes to MEDICAL issues--e.g. DS' heart murmur, or his vaccinations--then I do listen to and follow her advice. I think you should feel free to do the same with your doc, ignore his parenting advice if it doesn't seem right to you. Feeding is a parenting issue, not a medical issue, unless baby is not gaining weight or otherwise failing to thrive, so follow your instincts and do what you think is best.

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    I recently learned just how breastfeeding info doctors-to-be are given during medical school. Three hours each year. That 12 hours out of hundreds every year. They know NOTHING unless they choose to learn about breastfeeding outside of medical school. Most of us probably know more.

    I look at it this way...I'm not taught about dog training in vet school other than general information and behavior. So I refer my clients to a dog trainer when they need a dog trainer. Why can't doctors do the same? Refer patients to a lactation consultant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*aprilsmagic View Post
    I look at it this way...I'm not taught about dog training in vet school other than general information and behavior. So I refer my clients to a dog trainer when they need a dog trainer. Why can't doctors do the same? Refer patients to a lactation consultant?
    wholeheartedly. Clinicians are the only doctors out there who so brazenly and unashamedly overstep the limits of their knowledge base. It makes me very sad that there are so many people out there who feel they need to lie to their doctors because of unchecked ignorance. That's not right. I feel extremely lucky that I have doctors that prefer to refer me to specialists when necessary, rather than trying to tackle things about which they have limited knowledge themselves.
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    From all the responses it seems like there is a huge problem out there with doctors breastfeeding knowledge in general.
    By 11am yesterday morning DS had already nursed 4 times (since 2am), following the doctors suggestions and only nursing 5-6 times a day would be crazy! I don't have access to a LC here so I rely on the internet for all my information. But I definitely won't be going ahead and following the doctor's advice.

    Regarding solids, DS has gotten really interested in watching us eat for the last month. He gets especially excited when I am eating apples. Sometimes I have let him lick the apple just to get a small taste of the juice. He likes doing this....is it wrong to do this? He really just sticks out his tongue and touches the apple and then gets all giggly and excited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*mommal View Post
    Seriously, this whole thing just makes me mad. I strongly suggest taking the first route and ignoring the doc's advice while lying through your teeth, or better yet, ignore his advice and tell him why you think it's bad. I bet this guy never gets any moms pushing back at him, and therefore he thinks he must be handing out the best advice ever. Because no-one ever complains!


    I will also be sure to do that in future with my pediatrician and his crap advice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*podutti View Post
    From all the responses it seems like there is a huge problem out there with doctors breastfeeding knowledge in general.
    Yes. And as Phi said, this is one area where many docs are not shy about overstepping their knowledge base. It would be fine if the average doc did what mine did, when I was have trouble nursing: say "I don't know how to help you, so I will refer you to a specialist," i.e. a lactation consultant!

    Regarding solids, DS has gotten really interested in watching us eat for the last month. He gets especially excited when I am eating apples. Sometimes I have let him lick the apple just to get a small taste of the juice. He likes doing this....is it wrong to do this? He really just sticks out his tongue and touches the apple and then gets all giggly and excited.
    That's a wonderful way to introduce solids to a young baby. He gets a taste, he has a fun experience, and the solids don't replace breastmilk in his diet. You might want to search the solids forum for threads on baby led solids or BLS. In a couple months, when your baby is ready for solids, you can skip the spoons and just let him self-feed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*podutti View Post
    Regarding solids, DS has gotten really interested in watching us eat for the last month. He gets especially excited when I am eating apples. Sometimes I have let him lick the apple just to get a small taste of the juice. He likes doing this....is it wrong to do this? He really just sticks out his tongue and touches the apple and then gets all giggly and excited.
    Sounds perfectly good to me!

    My guy is the same way about strawberries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*aprilsmagic View Post
    I recently learned just how breastfeeding info doctors-to-be are given during medical school. Three hours each year. That 12 hours out of hundreds every year.
    I can say that I definitely received LESS than 12 hours of education on breastfeeding in medical school. In fact, I can't recall any type of teaching on the subject at all. No lectures during the first two classroom years. Nothing during my Pediatrics rotation as a third-year student. Nothing at all. And I graduated fairly recently from a good school (5 years ago). I'm sure doctors who specialize in Pediatrics or Family Medicine do go on to get some type of education about breastfeeding during residency training after medical school, but at least at my school, we learned nothing at all about the subject during medical school. I'm sure it varies by school, but some schools teach nothing at all about breastfeeding.

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    @podutti--My son's very first taste of food was also an apple. He was about 4 months old and kept reaching for it--I think it was initially the bright color that attracted him. Once he tasted the juice, he loved it! I didn't give him any solids to actually eat until he was 6 months or so, but he loved sucking on an apple that I had already taken a bite of. I would wait until he's at least 6 months before trying to get him to actually EAT solids, but a taste here and there of apple will do him no harm and is lots of fun for both of you

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