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  1. #11
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    I feel your pain. My DS is almost 8 weeks, has reflux and nursed a lot like that until we started the reflux meds. Now he can go a couple of hours during the day and up to 3 at night but has started wanting to be at my breast for 4-5 hours at a time at least once if not twice a day. We had latch issues that resolved but since he started this marathon nursing schtick my nipple have been hurting again.

    I surely don't know even a fifth of the info about breastfeeding but here is a suggestion anyways... I noticed that you work from home, so I assume that your always around your LO. I have noticed that when I would leave my son with dad or another family member immediately after he finished eating (I wouldn't even stick around for burping) and shut myself in the bedroom with no distractions and another shut door to drown out any noise from the baby. I would get better rest even if it was just the hour. He seemed to be soothed easier by others with a pacifier or rocking etc., while with me he would only settle with the breast. My DH or mom would basically try soothing him and keep him away from me until he was crying loud and clear (I know that sounds awful but they even thought I needed the rest that badly) I was still exhausted but that would give me some good rest although short. My husband did this at night even though he'd have to be at work and I didn't. He was awesome about that.

    Also: it takes me forever to go to sleep too. So this didn't always work but when it did it felt like a God send.

    Hope this gets better.

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    Hey how's things going on for you? Your baby is probably around 5 months now. Has he grown out of that snacking phase?
    When I read your post I was thinking that you are describing my current situation exactly! My son, who is 7+ weeks now, is eating EVERY.DAMN.HOUR all day! It doesn't matter if he eats for 5 mins or 45 mins, he just screams for food every hour! I'm totally exhausted and I get absolutely no help in the day when my husband is out for work. I want to ebf him very badly but at the same time giving him a bottle is such a tempting option... Yes lack of sleep has such a huge effect on us... Fortunately he sleeps for longer stretches starting from 6pm. I hope that your situation has improved, that will give me hope that my situation might one day improve too!
    One more thing, I actually do envy your huge milk supply. When I pump I typically only get around 4 ounce, both sides combined. At most I will get 8 ounce and that is after a 6 hour gap!
    Do let me know how you are getting!

  3. #13
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    Mama, she hasn't been back. You can look at someone's profile to see their usage. Not likely that she will come back. Very likely, in her exhaustion, she took what was said badly and won't come back.

    My first baby ate every hour, and I was given horrible advice to pump and give a bottle. Don't. Just nurse. It won't be like this forever. Really.

    Practice side laying nursing..,I took a lot of naps with him that way

    Stop measuring production via a pump and instead, measure via wet diapers.
    Susan
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    wow sounds really, really hard! i have a 6 months old who sounds similar to your LO. (but i only have one kid so that's totally different
    anyway, he nursed all the time it seemed like - maybe every 20 minutes to 1 hour until he was 4.5 months old when he started getting distracted and teething. now he has totally cut back (which caused some problems). he also has reflux and though he isn't screaming in pain since he has been taking zantac, he still has reflux. he never liked slings or any carrier. i had to hold him all the time (minus the 10 minutes i set him down for my shower - not exaggerating) until about 4 months. i couldn't put him down for a nap except in his car seat (only fell asleep if we were driving or strolling) and slept for only 30 minutes at a time until he was 4 months. he slept on my chest until 3 months and nursed often - as often as during the day it seems.
    all of this just makes me wish we did things differently in our society! i feel like we need a group of women taking care of babies together. i have my one sweet little guy and i still feel overwhelmed despite relatively little other obligations besides caring for him and myself. sigh. so i can't imagine how it is for you! though your post made it clear that you are working hard
    anyway, i hope you get some more sleep soon!!!!

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    I wanted to respond to this thread years later because I have the same issue with my 6 week old, this is the first post to respond in google search and I wanted others to have suggestions on how to improve the situation as it is super stressful:

    1) APA recommends on demand feeding instead of scheduled feeding for the first 2 months. Which makes sense because you don't want to tamper with supply while your baby is going through those early growth spurts.
    2) Frequent feedings can be a blessing in some respect. For one, most babies have some acid reflux. If LO has the full blown GERD, the treatment is to have shorter, frequent feedings. As far as supply is concerned, several methods like power pumping recommend mimicking growth spurt feeding as the best way to increase supply. And if your baby is gaining a lot, which mine was as well, he's getting the milk even if you feel like when you put him to breast there is nothing there to provide him. Try to relax about this, I've read that stress and not eating/drinking properly can affect supply but not sure to what extent. It's not helping if he's gaining.
    3) To help with exhaustion, try side lying feeding. I only used it early mornings and late evenings because my LC said I should compress, and that position is not suitable for compression. Some people recommend co-sleeping. I didn't do that, tried to stay awake as long as possible and then put him in the bassinet.
    4) Another tip for exhaustion is to have your partner hold the baby for an hour when he gets home from work and take a nap. Although note I did not see any immediate increase in supply after napping unfortunately. Normally sleep is a powerful remedy for me, but possibly sleep is not going to make the milk hormone increase or work more effectively.
    5) To help with getting things done, one book recommended getting a sling so that your baby could be basically on breast 24-7. Having him closer to the body may soothe him too. One nurse said that he may be making feeding cues just to get close to me rather than actually feed, so try wearing your baby more.
    6) To help with dinner, get take out or Trader Joe's prepared meals. If you insist on cooking do stuff real simple - salmon and fries, pasta with microwaved bacon basil and some veggies, minestrone, lemon chicken, campbells mushroom chicken, tuna salad, roasted veggies and pilaf, scrambled eggs and toast. Eat a side of fruit with it, simple to wash. Put baby in swing or bouncing chair while you cook.
    7) To encourage better and longer sleeping, get a Halo and definitely tuck those arms in. Baby will be agitated about it, so we did a lot of rocking with some white noise or Sounds of the Womb or shower noise in the background. We found that he would raise his fists and pull at his face which made him even more upset.
    8) When baby was upset there was always an attempt to put his fist in his mouth too, but hubbie said if he wasn't continuously doing it, then it may not be a real request to eat. One website said that snacking may be a result of mis-reading feeding cues - if you put him to breast he will eat, and then he became adjusted to frequent feedings. Once LC tried sticking her pinkie into his mouth when I thought he wanted food and he refused it, and said see, he doesn't want to eat. So maybe try doing the same thing, put your pinkie in. If he doesn't want to suck try other comfort methods. Also note that my son wouldn't take a pacifier.
    9) Keep a journal. Is he really eating every 30-45 mins or does time just pass quickly? I had several columns in mine. At the start of feeding what did both breasts feel like (engorged/full, partially full, or empty?). When was 1st start, 1st end, why did he stop, 2nd start, 2nd end, why did he stop and total time. Doing that helped me realized that my breasts were rarely full (which is believe is good) and rarely empty. And that I was stopping a lot in between feedings because he was pulling away and arching his back. Initially I thought that it was the classic "I'm done" response but later realized I was not burping my baby enough and he was distracted by gas. Burping him frequently improved the intervals. My little one is a barracuda eater, so takes in a lot of air.
    10) At 4 weeks my LC ok'd a bottle, but we put that on hold because we were concerned with his gas situation. You may have peace of mind if you have a spare bottle of milk or bags of milk in your freezer that you can feed using a bottle. Occasionally our baby vomits milk, and he gets really hungry and that bottle is a life saver in that situation.
    11) At 2 months I'm going to try the following. a) pumping for 5 minutes on each breast once a day around 7-9 pm after his feeding. Doing that a couple of times resulted in having rock hard boobs at 2am and better flow throughout the rest of the day. Basically making sure the boobs are real empty before prolactin is at its highest. Some sites recommend pumping after each feeding which LC did not recommend because you'd get too much supply. b) One poster said she tried to distract baby. Which, before 8 weeks may be difficult because I find now that my little one has not much interest in toys or mirrors yet. You can try a walk in the stroller or bath. Whatever method I try I plan to take baby to the breastfeeding support group through my hospital which is held each week, and to weigh him there to make sure he is on track. Don't use the scales you can buy online. I had one handed down by family and it was always consistently off from the dr's scale, and they were never accurate down to the ounce. LC at the hospital told me her scale was like $1K and always calibrated by a technician.

    For anyone that finds this I hope this works for you. It is well known that growth spurt feeding can make people crazy, so if you have it 24-7 your reaction I would think is completely normal. Hang in there.

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