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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    Ugh, manual extraction of the placenta? I have heard that that is an awful experience. When a placenta comes out in many small fragments, it is possible that one fragment may get left behind. While that (hypothetical) fragment remains inside the uterus, the body often behaves as if it was still pregnant, which can reduce your milk supply or even prevent it from coming in. I would definitely see your obstetrician/gynecologist about this possibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*djs.mom View Post
    Karen it's not a new born she's five weeks. I think if she was exclusively breast fed anytime after 4weeks when the digestive tract starts to matures you can see the holding of the poop. But the fact that she is supplementing and the consistency she described makes me think it's not normal holding.
    Yeah, but the duration means she wasn't pooping at 3 weeks, which is not typical. Any time a baby under 6 weeks isn't pooping daily, it needs to be evaluated. It might be normal for that particular baby, or it might be a sign of a serious problem. And we can't make that determination here.

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*yaiza View Post
    My baby has been pooping a lot since yesterday!!! Finally!! And without any suppositories or anything. The first poop was very "violent", it seemed, she was crying a lot, but after that she seems to be happy again and she poops normally. And I'm happy too! Never thought a poo could make me so happy!!
    Oh good!!! What a huge relief (for both of you )!

    And I spoke to the doctor this morning, he told me that it's obvious that formula might be solving one part of the problem (the weight) but it's creating others (constipation, nipple confusion), so we agreed on me trying to supplement with my own milk and have the baby weighed weekly to monitor her development. But let's see if I can make it: As I mentioned, I'm pumping a lot but obtaining very little volumes of milk. I wanted to ask you about this; how much milk should I expect to get after 20 min pumping with an electrical pump? And also, is it OK to pump as I breast feed? As if I had twins or something... Hopefully that will increase my supply?
    That sounds like a good plan. And yes, it's fine to both pump and breastfeed. Basically, the emptier the breast is, the faster it makes milk -- the more you remove, the more there will be.

    As for how much you can expect to get... There are so many factors! The type of pump, how used to pumping you are, the time of day... I used to pump for 15 or 20 minutes and get like 20 ml or less, and my supply was fine (my pump was lousy though!).

    I'd suggest renting a hospital grade pump if you haven't already. That would probably work the best for boosting your supply.

    Another thing you might consider if you don't see some change soon is whether they might have missed any pieces of the placenta. I'm sure that's not something you even want to think about! But retained placental fragments can cause problems with milk production, so it might be worth ruling it out.
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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    I think they do uktrasound to check for retained fragments. If there are any, you have a D&C, so the whoe thing isn't the same as what happens postpartum. Thank goodness. It's not pleasant, still, but not like what you went through.
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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    Thanks, ladies!
    Karen, you say you pumped for 15 or 20 minutes and got like 20 ml or less, well that's exactly me! It's good to know that's a normal volume, I thought there was something wrong with me, ah!
    Regarding the possibility of still having some placenta inside, they wrote on my patient sheet that everything was removed. They'd better be right, because they spent some 2 hours working on it!! It was really not nice, also because the delivery was so perfect, natural and so fast they didn't even had the time to give me any anaesthesia, this baby of mine was in such a hurry! It was truly a beautiful experience, but then that stupid placenta, argh...
    I'm seeing my gynecologist next week. Let's see what she says. I'll also ask her about the options for renting a serious pump.
    One question: Whats is a D&C?
    Again, thanks for your replies and advice.
    Have a nice weekend!

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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

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    Exclamation Panicking

    Girls, my baby has gained only 60 g in the last week, when I've been BFing her + pumping to increase my supply + giving her some 100 ml formula daily. Now the nurse says there's obviously something wrong with my milk and I should stop BFing and give my baby only formula.
    I'm worried. This baby needs to gain weight, but I'd prefer to BF, of course. What can be wrong with my milk?? :-(
    Last edited by @llli*yaiza; February 7th, 2012 at 06:11 AM.

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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    Nothing is wrong with your milk. Nothing. When it comes to weight gain in a breastfed baby, what matters is usually the amount of milk the baby drinks, not the "quality" of that milk. Did you ever get checked out for retained placenta? That can put a damper on milk production.

    Please stop seeing this nurse. The woman obviously knows nothing about breastfeeding and is completely sabotaging you. If you must supplement, that is okay. But it doesn't have to mean switching entirely to formula! Breastmilk still has lots of benefits even when it doesn't make up the totality or even majority of a baby's diet.

    Increasing baby's weight gain: http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns..._increase.html
    FActors that impact the calorie content of mom's milk: http://www.kellymom.com/nutrition/mi...e-milkfat.html
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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    I'm seeing my gyne tomorrow. I mentioned this placenta detail to the nurse and she said it was the first time she heard about placenta retention affecting BF. And this is the specialist I've been listening to.
    I'm just so worried now, not sure about anything any longer :-( The thing is, baby only gained 60 g, which is VERY LITTLE, but she's been happy, alert, curious about her surroundings, sleeping well, etc. And my breasts are fuller than ever these days with all that pumping, and she eats a lot. But she stopped pooping again, after that day when she pooped 3 times...
    Can't understand what's going on here... And I'm panicking :-(

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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    Specialists don't know everything and their nurses certainly do not either. It's a fairly common but yet uncommon complication of childbirth.

    Pooping a lot one day then nothing for some days is typical of a BF baby

    Since you have so much milk, I would suggest starting each feeding in the one you ended with. The reason...you can get more fatty milk into the baby faster, so baby gets more fat. Switch off when she stops or slows in her eating. Do you do any napping with baby? If not, do some and dream feed her. Sneak in some extra sessions.
    Susan
    Mama to my all-natural boys: Ian, 9-4-04, 11.5 lbs; Colton, 11-7-06, 9 lbs, in the water; Logan, 12-8-08, 9 lbs; Gavin, 1-18-11, 9 lbs; and an angel 1-15-06
    18+ months and for Gavin, born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate
    Sealed for time and eternity, 7-7-93
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    Default Re: Disappointed, ready to give up - hel

    A specialist who doesn't know that retained placenta can impact production? Makes me doubt her credentials a bit, mama. And even if she's the greatest specialist on the planet, she may be missing some vital detail.
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