All over the world there exists in every society a small group of women who feel themselves strongly attracted to giving care to other women during pregnancy and childbirth. Failure to make use of this group of highly motivated people is regrettable and a sin against the principle of subsidiary. ~ Dr. Kloosterman, Chief of OB/GYN, Univ. of Amsterdam, Holland
Shiloh (5/6/06) Nursed for 13 months and Josephine (7/26/08) Nursed for 23.5 mos Currently nursing my new little firecracker, Finley Catherine, born on the 4th of July!!
I suppose although the Nepali women don't have the heart-break of being separated from their baby, they do have to carry their baby huge distances. I think the paths out to the fields from the villages are steep and narrow and at least half an hour's walk (at altitude!). Then there is the very manual labour of working in the fields, plus tending to the baby, and then carrying the baby back down to the village at the end of the day. It sounds back-breaking to me.
So on the one hand we have back-breaking, on the other hand we have heart-breaking!
Back breaking, a person can be conditioned for, heartbreaking not so much.
If a baby is tied well, you hardly feel him there.
Mama to my all-natural boys: Ian, 9-4-04, 11.5 lbs; Colton, 11-7-06, 9 lbs, in the water; Logan, 12-8-08, 9 lbs; Gavin, 1-18-11, 9 lbs; and an angel 1-15-06
18+ months and for Gavin, born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate
Sealed for time and eternity, 7-7-93
Always babywearing, cosleeping and cloth diapering. Living with oppositional defiant disorder and ADHD. Ask me about cloth diapering and sewing your own diapers!
I actually do field work for part of my job and a couple times considered bringing DD along in a sling or carrier...in each case I decided not to for two reasons that I think kind of exemplify how our work culture is not set up to accomodate this.
Current work culture in my field, where my time IS what my company sells to other people, is simply not going to be friendly to a mom trying to do her job and parent at the same time. There's no way I could be as efficient in the field while having to also attend to a baby, just in terms of fussing and needing attention and diaper changes, etc. And since I bill out at almost $150/hour, that would either mean I'd have to overbill the client (fraud) or bill less than the time I was out there, which would be bad for my productivity goals. And if anyone was working with me, they'd likely have to wait while I did anything to take care of the baby.
Secondly, I might have been willing to just bill less on a few days and try it even with the justification I gave above, but what really stopped me was, can I (do I want to) take a small baby outside in the heat/cold/rain/wind/sun/bugs for 8+ hours straight? In a situation where I could not easily adjust my activities to what my baby needed from me without lengthening the amount of time I needed to be out there?
In other words, the culture gap works both ways. The culture surrounding me is not really friendly to it even in a similar situation to what the Nepali women do, and *I* don't feel like I have the skills or the courage to take a newborn out into the weather for long periods of time without causing them discomfort or even injury such as heat exhaustion etc. If some of you ladies truly would feel like you would do fine in such a situation, I'd love to hear about it, as it may pump up my courage in similar situations for #2!
Mom to Taiga born 6/2010
Pocket cloth diapers. Baby led solids. Full-time working mom. I my DH, DD, kitty Dr. Benway, and my working border collie Odin!
BF for 1 year and she and I still love it !!!!
One of the partners in my firm would bring her baby boy to council meetings and he would sleep in a carrier while she staffed the meeting. All I can say is, that baby must have been more mellow than my baby! My baby was pretty demanding - no way I could do office work with him around, he was always squawking and didn't sleep much at all. He would have loved being carried around out in the field in a sling though. In stimulating environments like that, moving around, he was quiet and happy as a mouse.
I don't like to romanticize what women in other cultures have to do just to survive, and with a baby strapped to them, no less (or, often, left behind with a caretaker, sometimes another child). But I too felt the heartbreak of having to leave my child all day to go to work. It's hard.
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Mom to baby boy Joe, born 5/4/09 and breastfed for more than two and a half years, and baby girl Maggie, born 7/9/12.
not all sunshine and roses. Other cultures also have to do things that we could not even imagine doing. You all probably won't believe this one, but my SIL is from Nicaragua. She's due in January. My brother told me the SHE suggested that they bring the baby - the newborn baby - down to stay with her mom by itself for months just so that she can work up here. It's common for people to do that down there. She lived in another country (ElSalvator) when her 1st child was born so that she could work and send money home to him. That's just what they do. Some one else feeds the baby, either a nursing relative or neighbor. And her son calls her by her first name, not Mom. It's totally beyond my comprehension. But, I guess thats what they have to do
DD 5/2008 nursed for 3 years and 3 months.
DS born 8/2011 nursing like a champ
Sorry for the short responses...always, always, always NAK or holding a baby