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  1. #21
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    Default Re: Medela PISA..Ugh

    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*durhamgrrl View Post
    stupid question but when y'all are talking membranes do you mean just the membranes or the valves and membranes? I found I needed to change the membranes every 1 - 1.5 months and the valves every two sets of membranes
    Yep, and . I change mine out pretty often.
    Susan
    Mama to my all-natural boys: Ian, 9-4-04, 11.5 lbs; Colton, 11-7-06, 9 lbs, in the water; Logan, 12-8-08, 9 lbs; Gavin, 1-18-11, 9 lbs; and an angel 1-15-06
    18+ months and for Gavin, born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate
    Sealed for time and eternity, 7-7-93
    Always babywearing, cosleeping and cloth diapering. Living with oppositional defiant disorder and ADHD. Ask me about cloth diapering and sewing your own diapers!

  2. #22

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    Okay, yesterday I did two things: 1) I changed membranes again (changed them just 2-3 weeks ago) , and (2) tried the factory issued horns. Saw a mild improvement, but think the factory horns are WAY to small but clearly I need a smaller horn than the 24mm now. But even with those two changes, it took me nearly 45 minutes to get 2 oz. I used to get (at night) 4 oz in about 25 minutes.

    I feel like my body is telling me it's time to stop but I'm not ready to. He's only 9 months old. I started with a 1 year commitment.

    I used my last two fenugreek pills last night so I'm going to go back out and get more later today and buy a different horn size before I convince myself that my body is saying it's time to stop. Seems like everytime something comes up that leads me to think this effort has reached it's end, I see an improvement. Let's hope the same thing happens here...
    Last edited by @llli*desertchildaz; August 2nd, 2011 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Playing with signature.


    ~ Kelly

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    What size horns are you using? I thought that the standard issue was 24 mm?
    Tracie

    Mommy to
    Lilah 10/08 nursed 25 months
    Beatrix 01/11 nursed 30 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*mommy2lilah View Post
    What size horns are you using? I thought that the standard issue was 24 mm?
    You are absolutely right. My mistake. I think I got the largest...36mm. (I'm a 38 FF cup size.) I never tried any other size except the largest and the smallest. To be honest, I don't know how to tell if I even have the right size. They were comfortable and worked so I used them and never looked back. Well, as you can see, they are not working now...maybe because my breasts don't get full like they used to.


    ~ Kelly

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*desertchildaz View Post
    I feel like my body is telling me it's time to stop but I'm not ready to. He's only 9 months old. I started with a 1 year commitment.
    You can do it, mama! Just three more months. Anyway, pump weaning at work does NOT mean weaning, full stop. I pump weaned around eleven months, and I'm still nursing Joe a year and change later! So pumping does not equal nursing, or vice versa.


    You can call me JoMo!

    Mom to baby boy Joe, born 5/4/09 and breastfed for more than two and a half years, and baby girl Maggie, born 7/9/12.

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    Default Re: Medela PISA..Ugh

    I might try the 30 mm if I were you... I think that's the next size down.
    Tracie

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    Lilah 10/08 nursed 25 months
    Beatrix 01/11 nursed 30 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by @llli*mommy2lilah View Post
    I might try the 30 mm if I were you... I think that's the next size down.
    And who runs your body, you or it?

    You can do this!
    Susan
    Mama to my all-natural boys: Ian, 9-4-04, 11.5 lbs; Colton, 11-7-06, 9 lbs, in the water; Logan, 12-8-08, 9 lbs; Gavin, 1-18-11, 9 lbs; and an angel 1-15-06
    18+ months and for Gavin, born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate
    Sealed for time and eternity, 7-7-93
    Always babywearing, cosleeping and cloth diapering. Living with oppositional defiant disorder and ADHD. Ask me about cloth diapering and sewing your own diapers!

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    Okay, I think this is a bigger problem than equipment. I am now only able to hand express a few squirts and then it stops. I can feel little pockets of milk still unexpressed after a 30 minute pumping session and an attempt to hand express but I don't get engorged. I can just feel like 8 or 9 small pockets of milk. I have increased my fenugreek, increased my water intake, I've doubled the number of times I pump. Yesterday, here is what I got:

    5:30AM-6:00AM - 2 ounces
    11:00AM - 12:00PM - 1.5 oz.
    2:30 - 3:00PM - 1.5 oz.
    5:30PM - 6:15PM - Less than an ounce (Drive home)
    6:30PM - 6:35PM Nursing (He seems to be getting milk but not long enough to amount to anything)
    8:00PM - 9:00PM - 1 oz.
    11:00PM - 12:00AM - 1 oz.
    1:30AM - 2:30AM - Side nursing Jax (This time he kept coming back for more, which he does. Drinks a little, pops off, drinks a little pops off.
    3:30AM - 4:00AM - 1.5 oz.
    5:30AM - 6:00AM - Less than one oz.

    Keep in mind, this is pumping BOTH breasts at each session. My hand expressing, which used to result in 5 streams of milk, are now down to 4 or 5 streams for one or two compressions and then 1 stream for 5 or 6 compressions. I'm panicking and the stress is probably not helping. I've tried to relax. I don't know what to do.

    JoesMom - You earlier said that I can still breastfeed once I've pumpweaned, but I can't really...Jax just doesn't stay still long enough for a single nursing session. He literally rolls and squirms off me. I can only get him to do it when he's sleeping. Otherwise I have to give him bottles. (Remember, i always had problems with him popping off.) And because of my lack of production (despite doubling my pumping), we're having to supplement him with formula. (I can't count on solids to supplement his calories either because he still won't really eat solids.)


    ~ Kelly

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    5:30AM-6:00AM - 2 ounces
    11:00AM - 12:00PM - 1.5 oz.
    2:30 - 3:00PM - 1.5 oz.
    5:30PM - 6:15PM - Less than an ounce (Drive home)
    6:30PM - 6:35PM Nursing (He seems to be getting milk but not long enough to amount to anything)
    8:00PM - 9:00PM - 1 oz.
    11:00PM - 12:00AM - 1 oz.
    1:30AM - 2:30AM - Side nursing Jax (This time he kept coming back for more, which he does. Drinks a little, pops off, drinks a little pops off.
    3:30AM - 4:00AM - 1.5 oz.
    5:30AM - 6:00AM - Less than one oz. [/QUOTE]

    This is all pumping unless I noted 'nursing'. Keep in mind that each day I need to leave a minimum of 4 four ounce bottles (16 oz.) for him for my workday. 1 for the morning when he wakes (after I leave), two for mid-morning and mid-afternoon and one for bedtime. And, as you can see from the above, I'm barely getting 10 oz. so I have to supplement.


    ~ Kelly

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    Default Re: Medela PISA..Ugh

    Are you sure, 100% sure, you are not pregnant?
    Susan
    Mama to my all-natural boys: Ian, 9-4-04, 11.5 lbs; Colton, 11-7-06, 9 lbs, in the water; Logan, 12-8-08, 9 lbs; Gavin, 1-18-11, 9 lbs; and an angel 1-15-06
    18+ months and for Gavin, born with an incomplete cleft lip and incomplete posterior cleft palate
    Sealed for time and eternity, 7-7-93
    Always babywearing, cosleeping and cloth diapering. Living with oppositional defiant disorder and ADHD. Ask me about cloth diapering and sewing your own diapers!

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