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    Default Any way to fatten up milk?

    Hey there -

    I've posted a few times about my voracious little munchkin. I EP (not by choice, but it is what it is) and she drinks about 32-40 ounces of BM per day - about 16-20 of them overnight. She wakes every hour to an hour and a half and wants just 2 oz. of milk before settling back down. Her weight, remarkably is in the 25th percentile, even though her height is in the 90th.

    Her daddy pointed out (and I must agree) that when my milk separates there's only a bit of cream at the top - maybe 5-8mls in a full 80ml tube. Could it be that the low fat milk isn't satisfying her as much?

    I've tried lots of things like loading up her tummy before bed and she has 2 solid meals a day (she's 7 months old) including some whole milk organic Yobaby yogurt after dinner. But it's no use, her little metabolism burns right through the stuff and we wake up about 6x per night. /yawn

    Is there any way to fatten up my milk? I eat like a horse and don't even try to restrict fat or anything for that matter!

    Is this a product of EPing? Does my milk not change to something richer that will satisfy her at night because I'm lacking the bio-feedback?

    I've taken fenugreek all this time. I'd hate to stop and risk a drop in supply and have to supplement her more. As it is she sometimes gets 4oz. of formula on days that I just can't pump enough for her. Her poohs are orange and the consistency of peanut butter, so I don't particularly think I have a foremilk imbalance...

    Any ideas would be so appreciated. I've learned to live without the sleep, but gosh, I'd love for both of us to get more. She takes longer naps at day care than she sleeps at a time at night...

    Thanks!
    Marley
    Last edited by @llli*marley-n-emily; April 22nd, 2011 at 02:50 PM.

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    Default Re: Any way to fatten up milk?

    That sounds normal to me. Doesn't sound at all like your milk is low fat.

    If she's gaining weight, is happy and has enough wet diapers then I think you're fine. It doesn't matter where she is in the percentiles unless she has a sudden unexplained drop or is off the charts all together.

    It sounds like she's eating a lot. Lack of sleep is exhausting - believe me I know. But I think that frequent wakings usually have little to do with actual hunger. So trying to stuff her before bed may only result in a tummy ache rather than more sleep.

    All that said... If you really want to make your milk more fatty, you can always make double cream milk. Let two bottle separate and then scrape the fat off of one and add it to the other. I have heard that suggested around these forums for babies who are having trouble and are losing weight. That doesn't sound like your case, but it can be done if you really want to try!
    Amanda
    Formerly: baby-blue-eyes

    Canadian Mum to Naomi Born 03/17/08 and has a dairy allergy we are hoping she will outgrow. Nursed for 1 year
    And Gavin Born 01/13/10. 22 months, still nursing and already determined to find every possible way of giving me a heart attack with his dare devilishness

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    Default Re: Any way to fatten up milk?

    I agree with the PPer that it doesn't sound like you have a problem. It is totally normal for the fat to separate like that. And waking that frequently (or even more so) is totally normal at this age. It's rough, but it will pass. "Stuffing" your LO will most likely not have any effect on how often she wakes. It's just how their sleep cycles are at this age, and how long it takes them to digest. The only way I know of to "fatten up" milk is to empty the breast more frequently, in order to get more of the hind milk, but it doesn't sound like it's neccessary in your case.

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    Default Re: Any way to fatten up milk?

    w/ babylove about the double cream milk.

    And forgive me if I am repeating questions I have asked you in any of your other threads, but:
    - Since you are EPing, have you rented/are you using a hospital grade pump?
    - How often do you pump, and for how long?
    - Do you get a 2nd (or 3rd) let down when you pump? When I am pumping, I will frequently get a 2nd let down towards the end that is almost all hindmilk, and it will be an extra 1/2 oz or so from each breast. I have to pump for several minutes (usually 2-3) without getting anything before the 2nd letdown happens though.
    - Do you mind posting a rough schedule of your baby's bottles? 40 oz per day is kind of a lot. It is possible your baby is being overfed.
    Little SW, Aug '09
    Miss MW, Jan '11
    Sir RW, Oct '12
    3 kids in 38 mos

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    Default Re: Any way to fatten up milk?

    Linky: http://www.kellymom.com/bf/pumping/milkcalc.html

    The research tells us that exclusively breastfed babies take in an average of 25 oz (750 mL) per day between the ages of 1 month and 6 months. Different babies take in different amounts of milk; a typical range of milk intakes is 19-30 oz per day (570-900 mL per day).
    And:
    If your baby is taking substantially more than the average amounts, consider the possibility that baby is being given too much milk while you are away. Things that can contribute to overfeeding include:

    * Fast flow bottles. Always use the lowest flow bottle nipple that baby will tolerate.
    * Using bottle feeding as the primary way to comfort baby. Some well-meaning caregivers feed baby the bottle every time he makes a sound. Use the calculator above to estimate the amount of milk that baby needs, and start with that amount. If baby still seems to be hungry, have your caregiver first check to see whether baby will settle with walking, rocking, holding, etc. before offering another ounce or two.
    * Baby's need to suck. Babies have a very strong need to suck, and the need may be greater while mom is away (sucking is comforting to baby). A baby can control the flow of milk at the breast and will get minimal milk when he mainly needs to suck. When drinking from a bottle, baby gets a larger constant flow of milk as long as he is sucking. If baby is taking large amounts of expressed milk while you are away, you might consider encouraging baby to suck fingers or thumb, or consider using a pacifier for the times when mom is not available, to give baby something besides the bottle to satisfy his sucking needs.
    * If, after trying these suggestions, you're still having a hard time pumping enough milk, see I'm not pumping enough milk. What can I do?
    Little SW, Aug '09
    Miss MW, Jan '11
    Sir RW, Oct '12
    3 kids in 38 mos

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