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    High Palate

    http://www.mother-2-mother.com/nippl...htm#HighPalate

    Babies with a high arch to their palate tend to flick the nipple up into the 'cavity' very easily. There really needs to be so much breast tissue in the baby's mouth that the nipple is forced further back.

    There are many ideas and techniques that are used to help in this situation. Experimenting with positioning is important to find the best position for mom and baby. Some moms try sitting the baby beside her so that the chin is on the underside of the breast. Gravity seems to help get more breast tissue in like this. Sometimes mom leaning over the baby works, again with gravity on her side.

    Some moms use a modified football hold with the baby wrapped around her hip, facing her side, and baby's lower lip about a half inch under the nipple. She would then position the lower lip on the areola, and wait for the mouth to open wide, then pull the baby on by the shoulders to get a deep latch. Leaning back helps hold baby against her chest.

    If this is done right, baby's head will be a little extended, and the latch will be asymmetrical, with more breast tissue over the tongue and less under the palate. The more breast in the mouth, the less the tongue restriction seems to matter, because when the mouth is more full of breast, the tongue has to lift less to press milk out of the breast.

    This situation usually gets better with a little time. As baby grows he/she is able to take more breast tissue in the mouth, resulting in a better latch. Many times this seems to spontaneously resolve at around the age of 8 to 10 weeks.

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    Nipples are terrible again. They get a little reprieve when I give a bottle of EBM but I have tried to return to full time nursing. I have tried a shield with limited success. I have to pump at least twice to get enough for one feeding which is so hard when I am alone during the day. I took the little guy for Myofascial therapy yesterday which helped with his clenching jaw but now I am convinced the palate is the main problem.

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    I'm sorry you're having a hard time. My son has a high palate and I was told by a lactation consultant we worked with that this makes it harder for negative suction when nursing. He was my second, and I knew from nursing my daughter that his latch wasn't right. But, while I would often have sore nipples, they weren't blistering/bleeding/cracked.

    Have you tried Magic Nipple Cream?
    Mommy to:

    Emmalynn Marie
    Born at 37 weeks on 12/22/06
    5lbs 1oz 19 1/2in

    Owen Charles
    Born at 29 wks 6 days on 01/17/09
    2lbs 14oz 15in
    In NICU for 2 months


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    I saw another lactation specialist yesterday. She says that she isn't as worried about his high palate as she said he has a "notched tongue and a thick anterior frenulum" or tongue tie (which my pediatrician previously dismissed). She recommended nursing positions while laying down. Unfortunately, I am not successful with them. It is hard for me to get a good, deep latch. I feel so uncoordinated and didn't do well with the positioning after she left. Does anyone know if this tongue tie will resolve on its own? Are there exercises to stretch out that area?

    I am wondering if I should pursue this tongue tie thing with an ENT. I am just so exhausted. I barely sleep and have been struggling with this for 3 months now. I am worried if I start supplementing that I will slowly end our bf relationship all together.

    No I haven't tried magic nipple cream. The IBCLC I saw yesterday left me with coconut oil.

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    I was told my son was tongue-tied as well, by 2 feeding therapists who basically said to get it cut and come back 2 months after. I then took him to an ENT, who said he may be tongue-tied but it was slight at that and would not recommend cutting it. We went to a pediatric dentist about his high palate and he said he was not tongue-tied. The lactation consultant we worked with said he was, but it wasn't a typical presentation, and we should have it cut. My son's Dr said he didn't think he was tongue-tied, but if he was it would just be a little, and we should leave it. I think he was tongue-tied somewhat but it seems to have loosened...we chose not to cut it. This is mostly because he was over a year old when we were dealing with this and he would have had to be put to sleep to have it clipped, and at the time he had a lot of other things going on that required he be put to sleep but couldn't have the tongue-clipping done at the same time. So I decided he was going through enough and it wasn't severe if it even was, so we held off. So, just to give you an idea of the tongue-tie issue - people can be all over the place on whether a child is or isn't, depending on the severity and the presentation.

    Given that you are consistently having so much trouble with his latch and your sore nipples, I would see an ENT and your pediactrician/DR about his tongue and see what their opinions are. It could make a big difference in his latch and your comfort, from what I've read and been told by people who've gotten the tongue clipped.
    Last edited by @llli*jenniebean5; April 7th, 2011 at 12:20 PM.
    Mommy to:

    Emmalynn Marie
    Born at 37 weeks on 12/22/06
    5lbs 1oz 19 1/2in

    Owen Charles
    Born at 29 wks 6 days on 01/17/09
    2lbs 14oz 15in
    In NICU for 2 months


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    Wow. Thanks for sharing that. I am working on getting an appointment with an ENT now who is especially knowledgeable about tongue tie related to breastfeeding. Fortunately, the IBCLC has offered to attend the appointment with me.

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    That's great - let us know how it goes!
    Mommy to:

    Emmalynn Marie
    Born at 37 weeks on 12/22/06
    5lbs 1oz 19 1/2in

    Owen Charles
    Born at 29 wks 6 days on 01/17/09
    2lbs 14oz 15in
    In NICU for 2 months


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