Oh I know. It's so frustrating! But those little successes are so important. IN my experience with really difficult latch issues, progress happens in fits and starts and there are going to be setbacks.
I wouldn't say we've turned a corner because we keep having these little successes and then the next time we try it's back to square one- but at least he's starting to see that even if the breast doesn't always mean food, it does mean comfort.
What I am thinking is that maybe the tip is
I was also wondering... what is it about the shield that makes it so baby doesn't need to take in the areola? I know for a latch without it he needs to take in a substantial amount of areola, but with the shield all he's getting is nipple.