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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 02:59 PM
    EDIT: (Ok I am probably repeating mommal here, but I wrote this whole thing so I will post it :D) Hi. I also had overproduction and fast letdown with all my kids. So I understand your concerns. However, I think you may be getting some confusing ideas from somewhere. First, please be aware that while severe overproduction and the accompanying fast letdown might cause baby to have more gas and to be overly fussy, and of course can lead to mom having engorgement, it is NOT a disease that a child can be diagnosed with. There is no such thing as a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance "diagnoses." You do not need to worry about your baby getting "enough" hindmilk, ever. That is not the problem. A baby who got nothing but foremilk, if that were even likely (which it is not) would still be healthy and gain fine. The issue is when there is fast letdown that creates an overabundance of lactose into baby all at once. Lactose is healthy and something your baby very much needs. But If you have a fast letdown, baby may be getting more of this than she can handle easily all at once, but please know that the gas and discomfort, while upsetting for everyone, is not harming her, and does not cause any actual damage to your baby. ALL of your milk is good for your baby. Everything you describe as far as feeding frequency, preferring to nurse on one side, and short nursing sessions is normal for a baby whose mom has some overproduction going on. Some things (Like nursing every 2 hours (and...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 02:49 PM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby and on making it to 6 weeks of nursing! The first thing to know about foremilk/hindmilk imbalance is that it's pretty much the biggest non-issue in breastfeeding. It's not bad for a baby to consume more foremilk than hindmilk, and it doesn't mean that your baby is getting a poor diet or a diet which doesn't have enough fat in it. It might make her more gassy and more uncomfortable than average, but babies are typically gassy and fussy creatures regardless of their diet. The second thing to know about foremilk/hindmilk imbalance is that it is pretty much exclusively a product of oversupply. Take care of the oversupply and the problem- such as it is- will vanish. Your LC gave you excellent guidance about how to handle this issue. Block feeding takes care of oversupply, and once the oversupply is pretty much managed it is best to stop the block feeding and simply let time and baby's demand fine-tune your supply. There are a few more things you could be doing at this point, which are: 1. Avoid the pump. Every time you pump, you are telling your body to continue to make excess milk. 2. Continue to feed very frequently. There is nothing surprising about a 6 week-old baby wanting to eat every 2 hours. Many babies nurse more frequently than that! Frequent nursing is particularly useful when mom has oversupply because it prevents the breast from getting too full. The more full the breast is, the...
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  • @llli*mamawin's Avatar
    Today, 01:19 PM
    This happened to me too. Grrr!! My DD is 10 months old and I am so tired of these last 5ish pounds of baby weight. But as soon as I buckled down and cleaned up my eating habits, my supply dropped. So frustrating. I think yes and yes. Frankly, I personally would never block pump unless it aggravated your oversupply situation to a level that caused difficulties for your baby. I figure, if you're going to pump might as well do both boobs. It never hurts to offer.
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  • @llli*mjenness's Avatar
    Today, 01:06 PM
    Hi Everyone, I am a FTM and my baby girl is 6 weeks old now. I have oversupply with forceful letdown. My baby was diagnosed with foremilk/hindmilk imbalance. My poor LO Is miserable with gas and bloating. She couldn't sleep and you can feel her stomach churns. She would doze off only to wake up screaming in pains. The only way to get her to sleep in on her stomach on top of me or my husband (I'm afraid to let her sleep on her stomach in the crib) We tried little tummy gas drop which help but only lasted about 2 hours or so. The gripe water seems to help immediately but 10 mins later she would scream in argonize pains. We tried the gripe water twice and same reaction both time so I stop using gripe water. My LC recommend block feeding. I did the block feeding for 7 days (3 feeding per breast) which help bring my oversupply down some. I still pump for 2-3 mins before switch side to help her get the hindmilk ( I get 2-3oz of foremilk in those 2-3 mins of pumping) At the in person consult the LC concerns that since LO is only 6 weeks old she doesn't want me to diminish my supply too much. She suggest to stop block feeding or reduce to 2 feeding per side. It seems like it been helping. I nurse her roughly every two hours. Is it ok that a 6 weeks old still eat every two hourse? My LC seems shock when I said she feed every two hours but didn't say anything. However now I hit another wall. She only wants to nurse for 5-10 mins on the boob she would unlatch or fall asleep. I would...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 12:22 PM
    :ita No worries.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:06 PM
    My first suggestion is to stop trying to get baby to take a bottle or a pacifier for at least several days. I know you are worried about baby taking a bottle when you are at work, but for breastfeeding duration, the most important thing is to get baby comfortable with nursing again. Try not to stress to much about what baby is taking. While I do not 100% agree that a hungry baby will always eventually eat, there is some truth to this of course. I do not know why baby is refusing to nurse, but I take it you think baby has likely become overwhelmed and confused with the bottle pressure. This is possible. Your baby is over two months old and I assume baby is healthy and gaining normally, so less nursing for a few days is not a big deal. It is even common for nursing behavior to change around this age, and one of the normal changes that sometimes occurs in some babies is shorter/less frequent nursing sessions Don't force baby to nurse. Try to calm yourself with assuring mantras, visualizations and breathing exercises or whatever works for you so baby does not sense your stress. Instead, thy leaning back on a couch or bed in a 'couch potato' position- leaning back to some degree but not flat on your back, with your back and head supported comfortably with back of couch/cushions/pillows. Try to hold baby skin to skin snuggled on your chest as much as possible. If this is not possible or uncomfortable, be clothed but still hold baby snuggled on your chest as much of the...
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  • @llli*umg's Avatar
    Today, 10:35 AM
    Hi, this is my first time posting. I'm sorry the post came out so long, but if you could just take the time to read it and help me out I would appreciate it so much. I've had lots of issues with breastfeeding. I had to supplement my first baby and with the second I did everything I could so I could exclusively breastfeed. It has been really hard. I've had low supply, had to pump and feed a lot, had blisters, latch issues, etc. Now she is 3 and a half months old, sleeps 8 hours at night on average and naps twice a day (around 2 hours each nap). She feeds only 5 times a day every 3 hours but seems satisfied, is happy and has been doing great gaining weight. I pump once a day about 3 hours after her first feeding in order to have a better supply and also to have breastmilk stored in the freezer if there is the chance I need it (have only given her a bottle about 4 times when she was around a month and my supply was low). I usually pump around 70ml from the left breast and 35ml from the right one. 3 days ago I only got about 35ml from the left breast which worried me, and later in the day I had very big lumps on my breast and saw a white spot on the nipple. That spot grew and grew throughout the day and at night it was a huge bleb or milk blister. My breast hurt a lot and the lumps were even bigger. I tried everything to get rid of the clog and blister: massages, heat, pumping, breastfeeding in different positions. Nothing worked. Until I finally told my husband to try and...
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  • @llli*umg's Avatar
    Today, 10:33 AM
    Hi, this is my first time posting. I'm sorry the post came out so long, but if you could just take the time to read it and help me out I would appreciate it so much. I've had lots of issues with breastfeeding. I had to supplement my first baby and with the second I did everything I could so I could exclusively breastfeed. It has been really hard. I've had low supply, had to pump and feed a lot, had blisters, latch issues, etc. Now she is 3 and a half months old, sleeps 8 hours at night on average and naps twice a day (around 2 hours each nap). She feeds only 5 times a day every 3 hours but seems satisfied, is happy and has been doing great gaining weight. I pump once a day about 3 hours after her first feeding in order to have a better supply and also to have breastmilk stored in the freezer if there is the chance I need it (have only given her a bottle about 4 times when she was around a month and my supply was low). I usually pump around 70ml from the left breast and 35ml from the right one. 3 days ago I only got about 35ml from the left breast which worried me, and later in the day I had very big lumps on my breast and saw a white spot on the nipple. That spot grew and grew throughout the day and at night it was a huge bleb or milk blister. My breast hurt a lot and the lumps were even bigger. I tried everything to get rid of the clog and blister: massages, heat, pumping, breastfeeding in different positions. Nothing worked. Until I finally told my husband to try and...
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  • @llli*lenarx's Avatar
    Today, 09:59 AM
    My LO is almost 10 weeks old and EBF. I return to work in a week and a half and in anticipation, I've started bottle training with expressed breast milk. She absolutely refuses and is hysterical when the nanny or DH offer it to her, regardless of whether I am in the room or out. We've tried 4 different bottles and nipples and no luck. I would usually break and offer the breast after 20 minutes of struggle or so but these last 4 days, the nanny and I buckled down and only offered bottle during what would be my work hours. She would sometimes take an ounce, maybe 2, with great struggle and only in a side-lying position (how I normally breastfeed her). She seemed to mostly be holding out until I offered the breast at 4 pm. Now, over the past 2 days she seems to have developed total oral aversion and screams hysterically at bottle, breast or pacifier. She wants nothing to touch her mouth and hates being put in any of her preferred feeding positions. I am only able to feed her now by offering breast while I stand and dance around the room while shushing frantically. I absolutely have to return to work, and am heartbroken at her refusal to eat. Does anyone have any ideas, advice, or tips? Or a clue of a specialist or someone I could see? My pediatrician just keeps saying "She will eat once she is hungry enough" but she has held out for period of 6 hours or more at a time. I don't want to see my baby failing to thrive or losing weight. Please help! :cry:cry
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  • @llli*midnightsangel's Avatar
    Today, 09:53 AM
    As long as the jars are cleaned and sanitized before milk is put in and you wash your hands before handling any milk it should be fine. You could rinse the outside of the jars really well before opening. I keep boxes of baking soda in my fridge and freezer to absorb strong smells like onions garlic fish. maybe you could try that on top of clearing out old food? It also makes my filtered fridge water and ice taste better :p
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  • @llli*ise410's Avatar
    Today, 09:37 AM
    I have been pumping since my son was born (4 wks 1 day) and storing in the freezer and occasionally for short periods in the fridge first. I noticed today we had some moldy foods in the fridge and I also noticed something in our freezer smells. Apparently i have questionable housekeeping skills....but I'm wondering if it would affect the milk? The stored milk is in sealed glass bottles or jars and obviously not touching the milk in any way. I don't want to throw out my entire stash, but I'm a huge germaphobe so I also worry that it'll contaminate the milk in some way.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:22 AM
    I am a little confused. Is the disagreement about continuing to nurse, or that your child does not eat solids? Most children start eating solids while continuing to nurse. We know that nursing until at least two is the world wide recommendation and of course there is no reason to stop nursing even then. There is not a shred of evidence that breastfeeding to any age causes more or "too much" dependence or any other ill effect. In fact the evidence of the positives to nursing past one are overwhelming. However, if your child is not even being offered any solids at this point, it seems that would be an area where you perhaps could compromise? Solids can usually be introduced (along with nursing) fairly early in the 2nd half of a baby's first year. There are many things to try aside from banana, which is indeed very binding and thus on the more likely list to cause digestion issues. How much baby will actually eat of what is offered is another matter. This will vary quite a bit child to child and yes, some children do not eat solids in any meaningful way until they are over a year. But this does not mean they should not be offered. Offered means just that- offered. It does not mean any certain amount of times a day or any expectations on how much or what would be eaten. Also, the mashing up and playing with food is how a child learns, and while I understand it is a mess, it is an important part of the 'learning to eat' process. In your research I am sure you have...
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 08:12 AM
    Just because milk is ok in the fridge for a few days doesn't mean it's not lipase. It's worth rotating freezer stashes and taste testing occasionally! :)
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  • @llli*francismum's Avatar
    Today, 08:08 AM
    Hi All, Thanks so much in advance for reading and taking the time to answer. :gvibes I was hoping some of you would have some advice for me and my lil one. My ds is just about to turn a year old...(where has the time gone! :lol) and we are still exclusively breastfeeding. He is doing great - he weighs almost 22 lbs and has not been sick at all other than being congested twice. (Thank goodness for Nose Frieda!) He took his first steps at 7 mos and does the low crawl :clap He is incredibly smart and very interested in everything. However, my dh is a father to two others from previous marriages and is a bit skeptical that ds is not on solids yet. I am a big "go-natural" proponent and others joke that I would have better lived in the pioneer age ;) so I take comfort in the fact that God made our bodies to do this and I have researched A LOT as well as contacted some people about him not being on solids yet. He has eaten some banana around 9 mos, but it messed with his digestion and poo pooing so we discontinued. He was more interested in playing with it and smashing it anyway. I am not having any issues with supply, thank the Lord and love breastfeeding my ds. How do I handle the criticism and disdain? Some feel I am depriving him or making him too dependent on me. I know this isn't the case, but how do I overcome the pressure? I have researched much on attachment and bonding as well and know the solid foundation that it lays for our children. Seems most...
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 08:02 AM
    I tried putting "Kiss Me" in DH's work bag for him to read in his lunch hours... It didn't work :( He calls it a hippy mum book, I can keep hope up he may change his mind one day right? Lol! Seems like our husbands are similar!
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 07:54 AM
    My understanding is black feeding is only supposed to be done for a limited time. I'm not sure how he that translates to pumping tho. But I wouldn't continue to block feed if you have supply issues. You can definitely over block feed and damage supply. I would offer both sides and not sweat it if baby isn't interested. Are bottles being given in a paced manner to minimise flow preference and prevent overfeeding? It may be this will help you keep up!
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  • @llli*fes's Avatar
    Today, 07:02 AM
    The area that is tender is the actual breast tissue where the flange was suctioned. The nipple moves in and out without rubbing the sides. That's what makes me wonder if I am turning it up too high, but then I don't want to not turn it up high enough. It's hard to find that sweet spot with the pump! I read some moms use coconut oil on the flange to remedy the friction? I just pumped both breast after our morning session and only got a few drops from one side and then only enough from the other side to make it a total of half ounce. Any ideas as to why it's so inconsistent? Can I make it more consistent? Am I not turning the suction up high enough? Good idea about not watching the drops come one at a time! It makes me think it will never add up to amount to much of anything! It's so tedious!! Thanks for your help!
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  • @llli*jswan14's Avatar
    Today, 05:54 AM
    Thank you! So, tonight I ended up waking at 1:30am to pump; at this session I pumped less than I normally do after I nurse at 3:30am. Of course, exactly what I have been afraid of happened- my son woke at 3:00 to eat (rather than 3:30) and I had virtually nothing to offer him. :cry I ended up needing to supplement him with 2 oz of ebm, whereas he normally takes a maximum of 1 oz. It breaks my heart to see him so fussy and hungry, so I am getting more concerned about what is going on. In terms of night nursing, I can try to keep him somewhat asleep and feed him in the middle of the night. During the day it is so difficult to turn around feedings with our already extended schedule, that I'm not sure how I can increase the frequency. I have been nursing more in the evening the last week or so, but haven't seen any sort of increase. I guess what is most disappointing is that this is my fault that my period returned so early. I felt so lucky that he was such a good sleeper, and since the pediatrician was so encouraging about letting him sleep at night (despite supplementing during the day) and the 7 feedings per day, I thought the biggest issue would be potential drop in supply. I wish I would have known this could happen, or I would have been more diligent about the nights.
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  • @llli*zaynethepain's Avatar
    Today, 05:37 AM
    http://evolutionaryparenting.com/gentle-sleep-resources/ Ignore the article itself as waiting it out isn't for you right now but check out the book recommendations and link at the bottom. The little hearts webpage I've found particularly helpful when my oldest was having his last patches of wakeful nights. Fifteen - twenty months was likely our worst phase of night wakings between teeth and verbal milestones. I always made it a priority to nap with him. hope you find the solution that works for you.
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  • @llli*bxlgirl's Avatar
    Today, 04:57 AM
    Thank you BFWMomof3 & Dormir41! Good ideas: look at the whole picture about what can things can be delayed, delegated, or deleted entirely from the list! Actually, my DH is a trained chef (!) so the guy can cook. Our preschoolers def prefer his cooking to mine :-P I'll broach the subject with him, and if he says no, then ask what else can we do to manage/delegate. LLLadies, if you visited my house you'd know we have taken your words on 'let the housecleaning slide' to heart, LOL. But I let our older children hang out at after-school daycare on Wednesday for a couple hours and felt much better, even got the urge to tackle some tidying up that had been hanging around undone, and even on Thursday I still felt an afterglow of more tranquility from having some help! Dormir41, hope you got a lot of relaxation & enjoyment out of the housecleaning that was done for you. How lovely! Did it relieve some stress? Truly sending you the best of luck and lots of hugs for going back to work, please let us know if we can support you in any way *hug* Glad to hear your DH is so helpful and even takes over grocery shopping, which is a lot more complicated with a baby in tow. My DH also likes to do the going out stuff, it could be their man programming :D For delegating, the preschool agreed to enroll my children into hot lunches/school dinners for the rest of the month. No more panicked sandwich-making while the clock is ticking! Also have sent the older two to bed half an...
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  • @llli*bxlgirl's Avatar
    Today, 03:03 AM
    Oops double post--miracles of technology!
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  • @llli*bxlgirl's Avatar
    Today, 03:02 AM
    Hi mama, good on you for sticking this out!!! If it's your period returning, then time will tell if so. Allez... I agree with Mommal that it seems unusual that it's your period returning so early, and as she said, yes, longer stretches at night without bfing or pumping will tell your body that your fertility/period can return. So if you want to focus on bfing baby more often overnight, can you just offer the breast during baby's sleep times without intentionally trying to wake baby up? Sometimes LOs will latch on with their eyes closed, or just open their eyes quickly--the truth is we all wake up frequently between sleep cycles so this isn't necessarily bad. MaddieB here said something like this: cue feeding is often misunderstood to be just the baby's cues, but it can include the mother's cues. So if you get the urge to bf your baby, go offer and see what LO does! This was revolutionary for me even at my third baby, who was very sleepy in the beginning--feeding her when I had the urge to bf was a super idea and so helpful :) Sometimes I really wanted her to nurse but she didn't, and I loosed her clothes/blanket a little to cool her off and rouse her from deep sleep a bit, and did my trademark 'annoying shampoo' massage around the hairline/face to wake her up. Sometimes I put my DD2's hands on my breast while she sleeps to help her rouse just enough to bf, a cool weather version of skin-to-skin. It might help...? It may be good to know that even just a short...
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  • @llli*jswan14's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:44 PM
    First of all, thank you so much for your replies! I juat reviewed my feeding log and noticed that I am feeding 8x per day more often than I thought. Also wanted to note that 2 weeks ago, the per began having my cut off nursing sessions at 40 minutes and providing the supplement. Apparently, my little guy was burning too many calories while sucking, so she wanted me to cut him off and supplement. Basically, I feed for 40 minutes, give a bottle, then pump for 15. This whole process is about an hour fifteen minutes, so to start it all over again and feed him at 2 hours would be really tough! Does the fact that the eating and pumping are long durations work in my favor in terms of supply? Also, how long would it take for my period to return with a longer sleep stretchbabd change in schedule? It seems crazy that it could respond so fast. I'm pretty sure it is my period, so I guess I just need to focus on adjusting. Should plan on nursing every 2 hours going forward? I hate waking the baby up and fear interrupting his growth by not letting him get enough sleep- every 3 hours is hard enough to disrupt him! I can wake up in the night to pump one session, but in not sure what else I can do!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:43 PM
    thank you for the update and congratulations!
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