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  • @llli*bakyjjc's Avatar
    Today, 03:25 PM
    Hi, My 11wk old baby has just started to nurse only while she's asleep. If she's awake, she will start to suck for a few seconds and the pull off the breast and fuss/cry. She will do this several times before I have to get her to sleep and then I can nurse her. She does fine while she's asleep. I can tell she's hungry because she is sucking her fists like crazy. I think I do have a forceful letdown, but it wasn't a problem for her before, and it's not a problem when she's asleep. Is there a reason for this/ should I be concerned? She also will not take a bottle or pacifier. I have recently gone back to work part time. She will drink some milk out of a sippy cup, but not enough while I'm gone. I'm trying to work her up to drinking more ounces. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
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  • @llli*marysmommy's Avatar
    Today, 10:57 AM
    I'm sure the ladies here will have good advice for you. We're going through the same thing. I have OALD, so we nurse laying down. I can sometimes get her to nurse on the couch, but she is often fussy or distracted even in a quiet and dark room. We can't nurse in public, because she will look around the whole time. She nurses much better in the evening when we snuggle in the living room while she cluster feeds/snoozes. She also wants to nurse ALL night long, because I think she's not getting much during the day though I offer the breast often. It's exhausting. Part of this is developmental. Babies at this age can't do two things at once. I've read that by 6 months or so they can take in their surroundings while BF. I wanted to tell you that I understand completely.
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  • @llli*nermal85's Avatar
    Today, 09:48 AM
    Thank you maddieb. I'm gonna be gone for 6hrs. I was planning on tanking him up before I leave. I will give a drop of milk a go. Good job he's too young to remember me trying to get breast milk up his nose, something to tell him on his 18th lol x
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:43 AM
    5 -7 hours sleep stretch at this age is not common but may be perfectly ok, but it is not so much the length of time baby goes without nursing but instead, how your body reacts to it. If you are waking up full and painful, no matter how long it has been, then your breasts are getting too full and have long been full enough to give your body the signal to reduce milk production. Plus this is a situation that might cause plugs or even mastitis. If you are currently making more milk than baby needs, then milk production reducing somewhat is normal and expected. However, generally speaking, breastfeeding issues are not caused by baby nursing more, and are caused by baby nursing less. In other words, for longevity of the breastfeeding relationship, encouraging frequent nursing day and night tends to be helpful. There is no need for a baby to "empty" a breast in the normal course of breastfeeding. This myth will not die and it causes all kinds of confusion. Babies are not machines and neither are you. Of course there will be times baby wants to eat less, or the breast is more full to begin with. That is normal, and at those times the breast will be less 'empty' after nursing than others. Normal. So called "Emptying" the breast is a technique for increasing milk production and is only needed if mom has low milk production and needs to increase it. And even then it probably does not need to happen every time baby nurses. When baby wants to nurse overnight, or really at...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:28 AM
    Yes you can try using breastmilk instead of saline to moisten and soothe irritated nasal passages. This is commonly done. You only need enough to moisten the passages, so this is not going to choke baby, and if you think it is clogging his nose just stop using it. I have never heard of that happening but I suppose it is possible if the milk had chunks of fat in it. I am unclear for how long a period of time baby will need bottles. The rule of thumb for separations is that a baby typically needs between 1 and 1.5 ounces per hour away from mom. So, for an 8 hour separation, leave 8-12 ounces. But there is wiggle room there. If you are certain your baby can nurse right before you leave and right after you return, then your baby may not need that much. This is especially true if the separation is going to be short, like 3-4 hours. In that case, I do not see why there is a need to leave more than 3-4 ounces as baby might only need one feeding of about 2-3 ounces while you are gone, if that.
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  • @llli*lf64's Avatar
    Today, 07:58 AM
    Hi there, I'm having a real nightmare my baby girl is now 16 weeks and three weeks ago suddenly started refusing the breast when alert during the day times. We were previously breastfeeding in various positions, mostly more layed back biological ones as I have a fast let down etc. There was some fussiness in the early days but things had really settled and I thought we both had the hang of it. Now however when I bring her to the breast she screams, turns her face away and arches her back as if to try and get away. It's a real nightmare as she wasn't the biggest weight gainer to start with and nor we can't go or do anything- we are literally bed bound. We thought it might be thrush to begin with as the Dr. Said he could see some white at the back of her throat, however we've treated her for it and that's now gone (I'm dubious it was ever there to begin with really) and she's still refusing to feed. Has anyone had this?? Or have any ideas/advise? We're at our wits end.
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  • @llli*nermal85's Avatar
    Today, 06:50 AM
    Hi ladies. I have to be away from my baby for a feed in a couple of days time so I have to express. Any of you know how many ounces a 7 week old 8lb baby should need? He feeds about 12 times in 24 hrs. I have tried expressing this morning and can only get 2 ounces outta both breasts. So it's gonna take me a few attempts to fill a bottle! Can I ask you guys another question please? He has the cold at the minute and his eyes are streaming like crazy and he's struggling to get a breath out his nose when he's feeding. Can I use breast milk instead of saline drops up his nose? I'm not sure if it would be best as Im not sure if breast milk is thicker than saline and don't wanna choke him!!
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  • @llli*n.lea's Avatar
    Today, 12:01 AM
    My son is 9 weeks and for the last month has been steadily increasing his nighttime sleep lengths. He now sometimes will sleep for an entire 7 hour stretch (though it's usually more like 5 hours). By the time he wakes for his first night feed I am so full it's almost painful. When he does his first feed he eats for 5 to 10 minutes on one side and then falls back asleep. I'm not even sure if he's emptying the breast he feeds on. When he wakes up 2 or 3 hours later for his second night feed I'm torn between giving him the same breast he fed from last feed to make sure it gets "emptied" or giving him the breast he ignored as by this point I'm pretty sure I could knock someone out if I hit them on the head with it. My two worries with this situation are: 1. Will my supply be affected by going so long without "emptying"? He feeds a lot during the day, every 1 to 2 hours on average. He also tends to cluster feed like a madman in the few hours leading up to bedtime, tanking up for the ling sleep I assume. 2. I worry that he's getting too much foremilk in the night feeds, since they are so very full when he first feeds from them. I think this might be the case because, after the first long sleep it tends to go something like this: wake up hungry after 2-3 hours, feed, sleep; and then wake up hungry every 1-2 hours after that to feed, sleep or possibly be kept awake by massive gastric distress culminating in intense wind and/or explosive, sometimes frothy, poops.
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  • @llli*n.lea's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:16 PM
    Starting at 8 weeks my lo also began to sometimes object to the cross hold position, preferring the football hold sometimes. I was assured that, since he otherwise appeared in good health, that nothing was wrong and he just wanted to change things up. So it's totally normal for babies to object sometimes to a hold or even a breast every now and then. As for your baby arching away sometimes, it's also normal and if she's not crying as she does it or showing signs of pain then she's fine and you aren't doing anything wrong. I do agree with the pp that she should be held for longer than 5 minutes and in different positions. While babies are delicate, they tend to be a bit sturdier than I think a lot of first time parents think they are. As with the nursing hold, perhaps she just wants some variety in how she's held. Do you give her much tummy time? Maybe she's trying to exercise her neck muscles by arching. Something my lo loves is to lay on me, chest to chest, as I recline. He'll push himself up and look around. It's tummy time while holding him, best of both worlds.
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  • @llli*canadianemily's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:41 PM
    Hi all, I would really like to have another baby soon, and my cycle returned when my son was 18 months. It seems regular now, and I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating. My problem is I'm almost too afraid to try for fear that I can't work out the logistics of sleep with a new baby and toddler. I have bedshared with my son since he was born. He has only ever fallen asleep nursing at night. He still wakes frequently in the night. On a good night, he'll sleep until somewhere between 3am and 5am, and then wake every hour or so until 7 or 8 when he's up for the day. On a bad day, he can be up every hour or two all night. When he was born, and for the first six months, he woke up every hour all night. It then gradually got better over time until where we are now. Though I hope it will be different, I don't expect that sleep pattern to be different with a new baby. I just can't imagine having two children who are waking constantly and on different schedules. This is the nightmare playing in my head: I move my older one into his own room while I'm pregnant, but continue to night nurse and end up in his room most nights. New baby arrives, and I start bedsharing with that one, but still need to go to my toddler when he wakes up, but I have to take the baby with me because he's crying because I moved and tried to leave. I have no idea what I could do at this point that would result in anyone going back to sleep. I have to assume I'm alone and my husband isn't available. He is...
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  • @llli*novila's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:21 PM
    hi mommal, about 3 months ago, the babe was at a routine checkup and doc said she was underweight and in the 25th percentile. After initial shock wore off I discovered she'd been truly asleep at the breast while "sleep-suckling" where she moved her mouth but wasn't really drinking. This may or may not have been the cause of my low milk supply, but once I realized this I started supplementing with formula on doc's recommendation and pumping like crazy to up my supply. With the help of LC's in my area, I started pumping after babe's meals, power pumping, back to night pumping, and of course stressing out. At the end of this stressful time with no increase (approx 1 month), I then started fenugreek and blessed thistle (LC advice) and continued doing sporadic pumping, mostly after meals. After being on these several weeks, LCs confirmed herbs were not helping and since pumping did not seem to help either, I could also try Golacta. But once I checked the price on that I privately declined the offer, stopped stressing out and instead bought the book "Mother Food" which outlines all manner of galactagogues and diet advice for low supply. Since this I've tried brewer's yeast, oatmeal, flax, lactation cookies including those ingredients, malted beverage, green drinks with wheatgrass and recently am trying sesame seeds, more malted stuff and barley (soon will try). I know others have had lots of success with these but so far I am not having any luck after changing my diet...
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:49 AM
    My primary source for complementary feeding info is the World Health Organization's Infant and young child feeding: Model Chapter for textbooks for medical students and allied health professionals, pages 19–28. It recommends starting to offer animal-source foods like meat, fish, and poultry at 6 months, along with other iron-fortified foods ("Average iron intakes in infants in industrialized countries would fall well short of recommended intake if iron-fortified products were not widely available"). My suggestion would be to talk to your baby's doctor about whether iron or other vitamin/mineral supplements would be warranted at this point. I agree with mommal and maddieb -- unless your baby is not gaining enough weight, there's really no reason to start giving her formula. A vitamin/mineral supplement would do just as well at filling any nutritional gaps but without replacing breast milk, which has a lot of important components that aren't found in formula.
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  • @llli*kmrs's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:10 AM
    I wanted to update for rogi2430. Supply is fine! It definitely picked up as time went on. I know they say its not related, but I wonder if it was stress and lack of sleep, plus I was sick the week before. I work 7.5 hrs a day 5 days a week and have almost an hour drive so I pump 3 times while at work. I try to do 20 mins 3 hours after he last ate, 20 mins over lunch (usually about 3 hrs from prior), and then a quick 10 min pump 2 hrs later. Then I feed him when I get home about 2 hrs after. I nurse him as much as possible in the evenings and I think that has not only made a sufficient supply, but more than enough. Ive thought aboit cutting the last pump session but it makes it so I have enough for an extra bottle the next day in case I get help up at work or stuck in traffic. Then I always have an extra to freeze when its not needed the day before. Have you started back at work? I hope everything goes well for you. Its so tough and I feel for you, but it only took about 2 weeks for us to get adjusted. I know everything here is different for every person but I hope some of this helps you.
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  • @llli*mobaby's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:56 AM
    Thank you for your detailed response!! Very helpful. I'm replying but probably not in order because I'm on my phone so typing from memory :) - pumping to establish supply is NO JOKE!! Getting my supply has been a "goal" since with my first son it tanked due to latch and palate issues and no matter what we tried (and worked closely with ibclc) it just keep tanking so I've been determined. He was undiagnosed until 10-12 weeks despite several lactation appts. Hoping this work continues. I'd like to make it to a min of 6 months but a year would be optimal. -I just mentioned to hubs this morning we should do the expressed milk BEFORE nursing because I feel like he cries sometimes after because baby is used to finishing with a bottle. If we can reverse the cycle he may not cry after. And maybe reducing to 15 mL before nursing and see if he's satisfied. -I would like to nurse more frequently as he is still feeding 9-10 times and getting the expressed milk but if we can nurse for more sessions I can ditch this pump (for the most part- I go back to work In 8.5 weeks :() and have some time to do other things and be able to nurse on the go. I would be fine nursing him all day long and pumping a few times per day, for work stash (although I have 5-7 days stored already) and to ensure I'm drained. -I was able to successfully nurse 2 sessions yesterday without any expressed milk following. Yay! -it's good to know my supply shouldn't tank if I keep nursing him on demand and not...
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  • @llli*lraquel's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:50 AM
    Hi all, I need some advice about my breastfeeding. My baby girl is 9 months old today. She was EBF until 6 months (I pumped when I was at work, and BF directly when I was at home). and then she started solids with a passion! She loves everything. Her favorites are yogurt, avocado and bread. From 6 to 9 mo. I was BF 4x per day (7am, 12pm, 4pm and 7pm). The first 6 months she gain weight steadily and was >80% at every visit. Here's my concern/dilemma. For the last few days she's on an nursing strike. She's been teething (top 4 teeth all at once!) and last week she bit me a couple of times and after that I stopped the BF session. But the next feeding she wouldn't want any. And now she cries when I offer my breast! :cry I decided to pump until she wants to get back to BF, but it's been so sad to see my milk output! I pump between 10-15 oz TOTAL everyday! I know her BF sessions have been decreasing on time steadily since around 6 months. She used to nurse for 30 minutes, 15 minutes each side and lately sometimes she takes each side for 5 minutes and she's done. So I'm not surprised my output has decreased. But now I'm worried I have been undernourishing her. I haven't supplemented at all with formula. So, here's my question: If I keep on pumping I think I can increase my supply to what it used to be (I used to pump 4-5 oz per session 3x day some months ago) or
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:49 AM
    :ita I think it's really instructive to try to get into the head of a newborn baby. A newborn is born with the instinct to latch onto things that look and smell a certain way. That is pretty much all he knows. He needs time to figure out that the hungry feeling in his tummy can be soothed by the act of latching on and feeding, and that it works the same way every time. Some babies do get a bit distracted by their hands, or will use their hands to lever themselves off the breast- they have no idea that pushing away from the breast or trying to suck on a knuckle is counterproductive to the goal of fixing that hungry feeling inside, or that it's driving mom a bit bonkers! MaddieB suggested the "hug the breast" position for his hands. If that seems helpful but doesn't always work because little hands can go flying everywhere, it might help to try swaddling baby before you feed him- who knows, maybe that will help him focus a bit better.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:34 AM
    :ita with MaddieB. I would encourage you to do just one additional thing: try to get a video of the wheezing/coughing/choking to show to the LC and the pediatrician, if neither of those people has seen one of these episodes themselves. As MaddieB said, most of the time wheezing and coughing and appearing to choke is a result of fast milk flow. That was certainly the case with my second baby, who often made noises like a creaky screen door or gagged and coughed all the time when the flow was too fast for her. But occasionally there is something else going on, and it's a good idea to share that with your healthcare professionals.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:30 AM
    Do you want to give us the rundown on your situation, and on what you have tried to increase supply? Maybe we can help. :)
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  • @llli*n.lea's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:43 AM
    I had a similar problem, but only on one side. My nipple didn't become erect easily and when it did it was overall larger than the other one but oddly shaped and I think it was too large for my baby to get a good latch on it, which led to pain and both of us favoring the "good" side, which lead to uneven supply. It was a very trying first month is what I'm getting at. I nearly gave up several times, there were many tears. Honestly, what got us through it was sheer stubbornness on my part and my son's mouth growing to better fit the nipple on his part. Plus both of us working on getting a good latch. It was a learning experience for us both. I want to say that it WILL get better. I know I didn't believe the people that said things like that in the forums I lurked in trying to find answers, but it's honestly true. I did also pump to help bring out the nipple, which did helped a little, but I found too much to bother with. I did find that pinching the nipple helped bring it up a little, but that might not work for you. What honestly worked the most for the both of us was changing the position we nursed in. I had started with the standard cross hold, which worked wonderfully for the "normal" side but was hell on both of us on the flat side. We found that the football hold worked miracles for us. He got a better latch coming at the nipple from that angle and it therefore hurt less while he nursed. After a good few weeks of him getting a solid latch I found that the...
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  • @llli*n.lea's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:01 AM
    We went through this with our son not that long ago ourselves. He's 9 weeks now, but he started having major problems passing gas, usually in the mornings, around the 1 month mark as well. We found that using a gentle "bicycling" motion on his legs helped him pass wind, better than massages did. It also helped to bring both his knees into his chest (like he's squatting, but still lying on his back). Every baby is different of course, what works for one won't necessarily work for another, but hopefully you find something that helps. I also found that he seemed to pass gas more calmly when he was nursing. He'd still make sounds, but they were less strained sounding. Frequent burping while nursing also seemed to lessen the instances of bad gas. I would burp not only at the end of the feed, but half way through as well. I hope some of these tips help bring comfort to your LO. And as the previous posters said, it's completely normal at this stage and it's nothing to do with your diet. It's just hard to be a baby sometimes.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    August 27th, 2016, 10:53 PM
    Wow, that is a lot to be dealing with when your baby is 2 weeks old, I understand why you would be worried. Let's take the concerns one at a time. Baby wheezing and choking- the most common reason for this is that the milk is flowing too quickly for baby to handle the flow. So then the question becomes, why can't baby handle the flow? Is it because the flow is really just super fast or forceful (sometimes it is) or is it because baby has some nursing/feeding issues that are interfering with baby's ability to coordinate suck and swallow? Now, that is the most common breastfeeding related reason. I imagine there might be other, health related reasons a baby would cough or choke, that may be entirely unrelated to feeding. That is something you would need to talk to your pediatrician about. So, how to help if my first guess is correct? First with supplements: I would suggest do not use bottles to supplement a 2 week old. Try a syringe instead, gently easing a tiny amount of milk into baby's cheek, a little at a time. Wait for baby to swallow then do a little more. You can also try using an open cup, which believe it or not, when done correctly is probably less likely to cause choking than a bottle. If you do use bottles, you want to help baby control the flow so baby does not get more than baby can handle at once. You do this with how you position the bottle, in a way that only a small amount of milk is coming into the nipple at a time. This is also called paced...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    August 27th, 2016, 08:27 PM
    I think that baby having a latch issue that went unnoticed due to you having OP so baby gained normally at first is more likely than baby not nursing enough to gain normally only due to baby being distracted. But even so, it seems odd weight gain rate dropped so dramatically. Did you block feed or doing anything else to actively reduce milk production? As far as how long it will take to regain production, that is not something anyone can answer. Usually production can be increased, sometimes significantly, but I am not sure it will ever again be as high as the early weeks, as it is normal for production to reduce a bit from that. Also no telling how long it might take. Also I am not sure the issue is your production, really, rather than baby being unable to transfer milk normally? But if you even think production is playing a part, it certainly makes sense to try to increase production now. This kellymom article is probably the best online source of info for increasing milk production: http://kellymom.com/hot-topics/low-supply/ Also if baby needs a faster flow to stay interested, have you tried breast compressions? http://www.breastfeedinginc.ca/content.php?pagename=doc-BC iirc Newman has written more about milk flow and how a slow flow can cause a baby to lose interest in nursing, or something like that. I am not sure it is online, it might be in his book. Well if baby is taking in 1-4 ounces at a nursing session, that would seem to indicate normal or...
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  • @llli*ramatae's Avatar
    August 27th, 2016, 06:57 PM
    He became much more alert and was often distracted around that mark. My 4yo daughter was home from school starting at 8 weeks, which I think may have also contributed somewhat. However, I now think that in the beginning I had oversupply, and this all may be a latch issue all along (not transferring enough milk over time and now my supply is regulating down). Is this a likely possibility? If so, how long will it take to regain supply? He was never ill. He’s always been somewhat fussy. During the day, baby doesn't want to nurse until he's ready to nap. Even so, I was and am still feeding him frequently (more than ten times and I dream feed him during naps to ensure he gets as much as possible). Sometimes during the day when he cues, I try to feed him and he pushes away, so I try again 30 minutes or so later. I would say his appetite seems to be poor during the day. I know it's unorthodox. When I go to our BF support group my baby is so distracted he never gets in a full feed. That's when we initially found out that he wasn't transferring much milk after a let down (I would manage to keep him interested for about five minutes, but after that he was much more interested in jabbering with other babies). At home, however, I was able to do checks pre and post feeding. I did this after we found out he hadn't gained in two weeks. During the day he takes anywhere from 1 ounce to 4 ounces during a feeding session. The larger amounts are from when he dream...
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  • @llli*novila's Avatar
    August 27th, 2016, 06:08 PM
    Thank you for the advice! In fact the dom started working today, so you were both right and that may be why the plugged ducts. Turned out to be two plugged ducts, one in each breast, before I got up in the morning. I was desperate because my pump was not helping to clear the badly plugged duct at all when I wrote. Also, I was sleeping on my back with no bra or tight clothing, and haven't had any plugged ducts for a long time. I also massage and use compression regularly when feeding. I'm still not sure why that is happening exactly, especially with the pump, but I'll look into it. I am extremely glad the dom is working but yes for the price of a few plugged ducts I can't complain. I'm taking it independently of any professional help because I was under care of lactation consultants and none of them were able to help me. They said I should be glad I had any milk at all, when I was underproducing, and trying everything within my power to increase supply. I may have IGT in at least one of my breasts for whatever reason because it is the smaller breast and only drips watery milk like a faucet. Something else my LC's were not able to suggest or tell me either. Anyways that all seems water under the bridge at the moment, and I'm just glad to see my production is up. I will check out those articles maddieb, thank you!
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  • @llli*cdfazio's Avatar
    August 27th, 2016, 05:17 PM
    Hi all, new to breastfeeding and to the forum...I met with a LC a week ago because I was having latch problems with my newborn. She basically just gave me a nipple shield and then told me to ween him off it in about a week. I have not had any success getting my newborn (2 weeks old) to latch on without the use of the nipple shield. Although the nipple shield has been great, it did impact my milk supply and I had to increase my pumping to try and bring it back. Additionally, I've had some issue while feeding (both bottle and breast) where he sounds like he's choking on the milk and we have to stop and sit him upright. He even coughs and wheezes, which is really frightening. It interrupts the breastfeeding after we get into the right position and have to move him out of it. It almost sounds like he needs to clear his throat but can't. We purchased new bottles which are supposed to reduce the choking but not with much success. Anyone else have this issue...it's freaking me out. He is also still falling asleep rapidly at the breast and rarely can go more than 10 minutes before falling asleep no matter how we shake his hands, use cold compresses etc.., which means he naps for a bit then wants to eat again and creates a feeding process which takes upwards of an hour. We end up giving him a bottle a few times a day because we can't seem to get him to complete a full feeding even with the nipple shield. Should I be worried about the choking sounds? What can I do to...
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