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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 07:55 PM
    Yes I imagine those vitamin drops are not very palatable. I know when I was told to put my baby on iron he spit it all back up. And he was 9 months old! I wonder can they not test for vitamin deficiency? Knowing what vitamins specifically they are concerned about might help as you could pinpoint those deficiencies without formula or a multi-vitamin. I do not know what to say about the doctor. Did your other kids have weight gain issues ever? Sometimes prematurity, low birth weight, or slow gain causes otherwise breastfeeding supportive doctors to rush to formula. And again, I am not in any way saying baby should not be supplemented. It appears something is not right with the gain and supplementing may indeed be entirely appropriate. I am just wondering why supplements cannot be with your milk or why nursing is not being allowed.
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Today, 06:45 PM
    I hope this is an encouragement to you, but I am one of those cases where revision did not help our main problem (my pain), but the changes in my LO (greater tongue mobility, she talks a LOT, even then at 6 weeks it was noticeable, huge smiles I hadn't seen before, losing all that jaw restriction I hadn't realized she had, etc) combined with me no longer having regular plugged ducts/mastitis made me feel better about doing it despite the fact that it wasn't entirely successful. She nursed until 18 months, and we only stopped due to my health issues, otherwise we would have kept going!
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  • @llli*niklas.sarah's Avatar
    Today, 05:21 PM
    I had the same thought about not growing in utero, but that was blamed on high blood pressure and possibly placenta although none of that was confirmed. I am actually really surprised by my pedi lack of support for breastfeeding. She was fine with my other two . My middle even had serious latch and suck issues bit she even supported us through that. I can go to free lactation support meetings every week so I can ask for recommendations on other bf friendly pedis. Thanks for all the support. Also we did try the vitamin drops she vomited that up too.
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  • @llli*dormir41's Avatar
    Today, 05:11 PM
    Hello! I don't have a freestyle (i have a pisa), so not sure if this would work differently w that, but I did successfully nurse and pump at the same time when my daughter was a newborn. I just tucked the piece into my nursing bra (flange? Is that what it's called? Totally blanking right now) & it worked okay. It helped to set the pump up before doing anything, latching my daughter on, then turning the pump on and readjusting pto parts as needed. If you feel you need a bra that is for pumping, there is actually a combination pump/nursing bra that I've found on Amazon. I feel like traditional pumping bras or cutting into a sports bra would be more difficult to nurse with, but I could be wrong.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 05:01 PM
    Ok the full drainage part is only once and then again only as needed, not every time you end a block...at least that is what I recall of that article(?) Just to be clear. Because of course frequently pumping "to empty" will increase production and consequently make things worse. Also, in cases of extreme hyper lactation where FDBF appears indicated, it is probably best to consult with an IBCLC.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 04:53 PM
    TT revision often does not result in an immediate fix. Sometimes suck training, exercises, or body work is needed. This is a complicated area and if things are not improving with your IBCLC's help, I would suggest asking your IBCLC if she might need to call in reinforcements or get suggestions from other LCs or something. Sometimes more eyes on the problem is the way to go. August is ages away. Baby will be almost 4 months old by then. If you can, look at a 4 month old to remind yourself how different that is than the little girl you have now. I suggest, try to stay in the here and now and work on what is going on now rather than worrying about 2 months down the road.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 04:43 PM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby! What you want to do is entirely possible. With the proper stimulation, you can produce milk again even if you are starting with a completely dry breast (or breasts) and you aren't nursing. The fact that you can still get drops from the left and have a nursing baby- those are huge assets! Here's what you want to do, in order to get the left side producing again: 1. Start removing milk from that breast as often and as thoroughly as possible. If the baby will nurse, great. If not, pump or hand express on that side. In general, pumping with a high quality electric pump with properly sized shields will be the best way to get milk out, though some moms find they have better luck with hand expression or even a manual pump. Try both approaches! When it comes to frequency, aim to pump as often as possible. 8-10 pump sessions per 24 hour period would be ideal but given the demands of life, there will probably be days when you don't reach that ideal. Don't worry- anything you do, even if it's just one pump session per day- is going to be better than nothing! 2. Try to get the baby nursing ASAP, even if there's no milk there. If she will latch without the shield, that is probably best, in terms of stimulating milk production. 3. Be cautious with the formula supplements. Topping a baby off with a large amount of formula can lead to decreased nursing frequency, and you want this baby to be hungry and ready...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 04:36 PM
    Hi estemom. Yes it usually is possible to relactate. My first suggestion is to see a board certified lactation consulant for a private consult if that is possible. If you aleady saw one (or more) when was that and what follow up is there? A baby not being able to nurse, one side or both, is a problem an IBCLC should be able to help you with. Inverted nipples are not usually a barrier to nursing, although of course that can make things more difficult especially in the early weeks. If baby could nurse on both sides, your life would probably be easier. Secondly I am curious how much formula your baby is getting and whether or not you have been pumping on the side baby is nursing from. Even when a mother must nurse on one side, she is often able to make enough milk to exclusively nurse even so. If baby is getting supplements, even if they are needed, they tend to harm milk production unless steps are taken to prevent that, and that usually means pumping as well as nursing. How often you would need to pump depends on how much baby is being supplemented. Then as your production increases you can gradually wean baby off the formula to exclusive nursing, meaning, no more reason to pump. Even if baby is only nursing on one side. To re-lactate on the low producing side: Increasing production depends on frequent and effective milk removal from the breasts. Often the best "milk remover" is baby! But if baby still cannot or will not nurse on that side, you will need to pump...
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  • @llli*flandersfam's Avatar
    Today, 04:35 PM
    My baby is 6 weeks old and we have struggled to have a good breastfeeding relationship since her birth. I breastfed my oldest with absolutely no problems for 13 months so this is brand new territory for me. The day my LO one was born, she wouldn't latch on to my right breast and I called for a LC to come and help immediately as I felt something just wasn't right. We worked on positioning and that worked for a little while. On day 3, LO just stopped trying to nurse at all and so we used some instant reward techniques to get her going. We had to see the LC's at the hospital and have regular weight checks because she had lost 10% of her birth weight and wasn't gaining it back fast enough. We were given nipple shields and syringes and have run the gamut of all types of feeding over the past 6 weeks. Bottles, syringes, breast with and without a nipple shield.... I suspected a PTT from the beginning a sure enough, she has one. Our pediatrician and an ENT did not recognize the PTT but we went to a dentist who finally did a thorough exam of baby's mouth. This past Thursday we had her PTT and lip tie revisions done. However, our breastfeeding relationship (which wasn't that great...) has deteriorated since then. She is refusing to bf and frantically screams any time the breast is offered. I have to go back to work in August and I want us to have this down before then as my plan is to EBF until she self-weans. I am heartbroken because this has been so tough on her - I...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 04:23 PM
    Wow it sounds like you are dealing with a lot. Flooding! Ugh. IF the reason your baby needs supplements is the vitamins, vitamins for infants are of course also available as vitamin drops. Of course baby might spit that up as well, but since a smaller amount of the drops would be needed to get a daily dose, it might work better. When I say a second medical opinion, I really meant a different pediatrician, preferably one with a reputation as being breastfeeding knowledgeable and supportive. (You might be able to find suggestions of doctors from your local breastfeeding support community) I am not saying do not see those specialists, of course. You should. I just think it might be a good idea to see someone else before that to make sure they concur with the FTT diagnoses and the approach of the need to withhold both your milk and the breast, which is counter to usual practice and counter to the infant feeding recommendations of the AAP. I mean we are talking about a baby who was not gaining normally in utero either. Right? That had nothing to do with your breastmilk. I just wonder if something else is going on here but breastfeeding is being blamed. Unfortunately this happens.
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  • @llli*niklas.sarah's Avatar
    Today, 01:07 PM
    I was not able to really sit and talk with the pedi this time because I had to bring my two older children due to flooding in our area. Yes we were referred to an OT and a Gastro for further investigation into why she is not Gaining. Yes I have enough breast milk, and I think the reason I am being asked to use formula is because it has added vitamins? She is not keeping the formula down anyway. She threw it up so many times I called the nurses line to get an idea of what I should do. This is all very frustrating.
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  • @llli*nettie's Avatar
    Today, 12:57 PM
    My LG has discovered she can twiddle my other nipple while she feeds and it is driving me absolutely bonkers!!! Its not such an issue in the day as my bra/clothing prevents access to the other side. At nightfeeds it is really irritating and stopping me falling back to sleep after I've latched her on (Co sleeping). Really don't want to wear a bra in bed as I have bigger boobs and it's not very comfortable and they dig in, but the vest tops I normally wear don't keep prying hands out! Any advice please?!
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  • @llli*estemom's Avatar
    Today, 10:50 AM
    Please I really need some advice. My baby is 6 weeks old and I couldn't nurse her once she was born because she was in an incubator until she was 11 days old. At first I couldn't get her to latch on well but then it finally worked only on my right breast. This is because on my left breast I have an inverted nipple. She never was able to latch on that breast that caused me to only breastfeed her with my right breast. Since I stopped breastfeeding her with my left breast my milk supply started getting lower and lower and now I only can get a few drops from it. Since I only breastfeed from one side I complemented with formula but now I want to re establish my milk supply from the left breast to start exclusively breastfeeding and try a nipple shield for her to latch on correctly ! How can I do this ? Is it even possible?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:06 AM
    I am sorry the appointment went this way. Did you get a satisfactory explanation for why you cannot nurse your baby as well as supplement? Were you also told to never give baby a pacifier, or your finger to suck when baby needs a little comfort? Unlike your breast, those are things babies routinely suck on that give no nourishment. Did the doctor suggest that baby might need tests to figure out why the infant of an experienced mother who nursed two previous children without issue is apparently not gaining normally at the breast? Sometimes the issue has nothing to do with intake. Is the formula for "1/2" the feedings instead of available expressed breastmilk, or are you not expressing enough milk to supplement for those feedings? If it is the former, what is the doctors reasoning for substituting formula for breastmilk when they are identical in fat and calories? I would suggest a second medical opinion from a different pediatrician, and to see a board certified lactation consultant as suggested in previous post.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 10:01 AM
    You will get there eventually, mama! Maybe the full drainage technique will work, maybe it will take time and persistence with block feeding. Most likely you'll need a combination of the time and full drainage and block feeding- but I am sure that eventually you will get to a place where nursing is comfortable for both of you. Have you tried giving baby some probiotics? Being premature, being in the NICU- those are things that might affect the baby's gut flora. I am sure that most of the issues you are seeing are due to oversupply, but maybe some probiotics would help her digestion?
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  • @llli*angelpoo11's Avatar
    Today, 09:15 AM
    Yes thank you, the articles were helpful. I am trying the full drainage block feeding with 6 hour blocks now. I just pumped over 8oz of milk from one side in 10 minutes and I am scared this will stimulate even more production. Hopefully this will work and not make things worst... I have stopped all the bottles as she is gaining fine without the fortifier. She is miserable with gas and explosive poop and I feel so bad this is all because of my supply. :( she had the most peaceful nursing session and wonderful sleep after I nursed her after pumping dry. I wish nursing would be like this every time.
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  • @llli*mum.mumbai's Avatar
    Today, 03:19 AM
    Hi puja Am a working Indian mom of 22 month son. And this is how the outline's my son's solid journey: 1. Started solids at 7 month, with soft Peach, pears, mango, banana fruits, graduated to rice+lentil gruel with ghee at 8 month. 2. Started with finger foods like: small sticks of roasted potato, sweet potato, carrot, cucumber. 3. Introduced cerals like wheat chapati, bread at 10,months 4. 11 months introduced dairy like curd (which he loved) cheese. 5. 12 months he started liking spicy stuff,,so ate curries, chicken eggs etc 6. 15 months he started drinking whole milk.
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  • @llli*jazzy's Avatar
    Today, 02:16 AM
    I don't have any practical advice, but just wanted to encourage you to hang in there. 2 of my 7 children had milk transfer issues resulting in low weight gain, and I was told to only give bottles for a time. I exclusively pumped and bottle-fed them, putting them to the breast once or twice a day to keep them latching. At around 2-3 months, I was able to transition back to nursing full-time just like I did with my other children. I hated exclusively pumping, and it was one of the hardest things I've ever done - even the second time around. I hated every minute, and I was so exhausted. I wanted to quit every day. But it was worth it to get to the point of full-time nursing again, and now all of that dreaded pumping is just a distant memory. It is hard, but you can do it. See if you can find a good LC to walk you thru it. I found a good one on the 3rd try, and there is no way I could thank her enough. Wish I could give you a big hug. Hang in there, mama!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:26 AM
    If baby were not gaining at least half a pound a week, block feeding/reducing milk production would probably not be appropriate. The suggestion to encourage baby to nurse more often has nothing to do with a concern baby is not gaining well, I assumed baby was gaining very well if you are needing to reduce your milk production. It really does help with the flow if the breast is relieved a bit more often and that is where that suggestion comes from. Even if baby is only taking a bit at a time. Everything I suggested are tried and true ways for dealing with/lessening OP and fast letdown. Not everything is going to work in every case, and when it comes to OP, as mommal says, it can take a while for milk production to decrease. However I do suggest continue to try those things I suggested. They cannot hurt and may eventually help. Have you had a consult with an IBCLC since leaving the hospital? It may be that your baby is having some difficulty with latch and this is making it even harder for baby to handle the milk flow. It is also possible that you have very extreme hyperlactation and need additional help figuring it out. I hope those articles about block nursing were helpful.
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  • @llli*niklas.sarah's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:05 PM
    Well I knew it was coming but it still hurts. Elizabeth only gained 3oz in 7 days. Doc said it is not enough and labeled her failure to thrive. I was instructed to only give bottles now for every feeding, and to make half of the feeds formula only. I am only allowed to nurse if she is un satisfied after an 1.5 bottle. Doc said keep pumping but it is heartbreaking to not nurse my baby. I want to do what is best, so hopefully this will work. We are scheduled to see an OT next week as well as doc for more weight checks. This is all so hard:cry
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