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  • @llli*biscuit07's Avatar
    Today, 12:49 PM
    I work full time and my 15 month old daughter has been in daycare since she was 5 months. She started "solids" (really, just licking things and making funny faces) at 6 months and now eats snacks and meals. When she's at daycare, she gets a 2-3 ounce cup of breastmilk either with lunch or afternoon snack. Whether I pump twice while at work, or just once, I get a total of around 2-3 ounces. I used to have massive oversupply, but it seems like that's where my supply is at for now. On days I work, she breastfeeds 3 times a day: morning wake up and twice in the evening (before dinner, and before bed). BUT, when she and I are together on weekends, she's still only been nursing 3 times - morning wake up, early afternoon, and before bed (she drops the pre-dinner one). A couple of nights a week, she wakes up around 4am for an extra nursing session and then falls back asleep but most nights she sleeps through until ~5/5:30am. On a day where she suddenly wants extra nursing (mid-morning AND early afternoon nap; or early afternoon + pre-dinner + pre-bed) I don't have enough milk. It seems like she can barely get anything out for the mid-morning snack. She gives me sad lip, frantically baby-signs "milk" and "more" at me, and then cries hysterically. I feel awful. Last night (after nursing 3 times earlier in the day), I ran out of milk during her pre-bed nursing of all times! She was a little upset at first, but eventually snuggled up for story time. I'm torn between trying...
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  • @llli*lllmeg's Avatar
    Today, 12:46 PM
    Ok, so no, IMO, the only way a "too slow" weight gain could be possibly a result of lack of sleep is if a baby was being almost tortured to stay awake! I also truly believe that "making sure baby gets enough sleep" is a misleading concern, as most babies get enough sleep with little effort from others. They just sleep very differently than adults or older kids. On the other hand, a baby who is not getting quite enough to eat may not sleep well (while some might sleep too well.) Also, if a baby is taking a very long sleep stretch at night, that is going change nap patterns. I would suggest not worry about this. Your child's slowing gain was caught relatively quickly, and it sounds to me as if you have always been very loving toward your baby. You must forgive yourself. For one thing, you were following a doctors advice. For another, mothers make mistakes all the time. All of us (humans) do. This is how we learn. And to teach our children it is ok to make mistakes, we must be forgiving toward ourselves about our own mistakes. And yes it is very hard! Growth spurts- yes, most people agree that growth spurts occur in the newborn, which, for the breastfeeding mom, actually means "baby is nursing lots more than usual right now for some reason I cannot figure out so let's assume it is a growth spurt." But I am also of the opinion that too much can be made of growth spurts. Because very frequent nursing is just the norm, and how frequent a baby might nurse or "need" to nurse...
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  • @llli*lila.stern's Avatar
    Today, 12:24 PM
    You've said it exactly as it is, "sabotaged". :( I just feel so horrible looking back to the times when DD was showing hunger cues when she was tired and I didn't let her nurse because she just fed about an hour prior. :( I can't forgive myself for that. I just hope it didn't affect her psychological development. I have a lot of nursing to make up for.
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  • @llli*lila.stern's Avatar
    Today, 12:18 PM
    Thank you for your advice. DD's weight at birth was 3.4kg. At 1 month 5kg. 2 months 5.2kg. What I am wondering was, could the fact that she wasn't gaining much be due to the timed nursing or from her lack of naps (more awake=burning more calories). During appointments my DH is always with me. That's why we were both confused and disappointed at the pedi. When we mentioned growth spurts she asked where we heard that from and that there's no such thing for infants, only during puberty/adolescence (???). She kind of lost me there. Everything I've ever read about infants and feeding is that there will be growth spurts. I'll be looking for a new pedi. She clearly doesn't care for the welfare of my DD. A good pedi treats every patient as their own child.
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  • @llli*lllmeg's Avatar
    Today, 11:44 AM
    of course it is possible to take 'too much' of any medicinal herb. Also, some moms should avoid fenugreek altogether, ones with diabetes for example. But why do you think you are taking too much? Are you following recommended dose? there are many brands of commercial fenugreek supplement so dosage varies pill to pill. there are also other herbs that act as galactagogues. If your concern is low production, and you cannot get baby to nurse more, then the most important thing is to pump frequently, with a very good pump. For eping, a hospital grade pump is the recommended equipment. What are you using for pumping, is pumping comfortable, and how many times a day do you pump? Also, when baby gets bottles, how big are they and how many a day, and is cue feeding and paced bottle feeding the method>? hand expression with pumping may help with output. http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/herbs/fenugreek/
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  • @llli*sonogirl's Avatar
    Today, 11:33 AM
    Congrats, krystine, and happy birthday to your little guys!
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  • @llli*lllmeg's Avatar
    Today, 10:41 AM
    Thank you so much for the update! Congrats on first year of motherhood, that is such a big milestone!
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  • @llli*lllmeg's Avatar
    Today, 10:37 AM
    Hi! So gas & fussiness is pretty normal in a 3 week old but there may be some things you can do. How is weight gain and stooling? How often (times per day total) does baby nurse? Any sign of fast letdown or high milk production? Any details appreciated.
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  • @llli*lllmeg's Avatar
    Today, 10:32 AM
    I agree with pp but this actually is above average output for a mom who is nursing as well (in other words, pumping between nursing sessions rather than as a replacement for nursing sessions. ) Pump output is a unreliable indicator of overall of milk production-because many moms are not able to pump much, and yet have normal production. BUT, a high output like this is a good indicator you have enough milk. SO IF baby is having issues with gain, I agree, the issue is probably that, due to your doctors advice to limit feedings, baby was not nursing often enough. This is probably easily fixed by nursing more often! Of course, not nursing often enough and very long sleep stretches with no nursing will reduce milk production over time. Looking at your doctors sugggestions, they appear contradictory and confusing. I would suggest maybe bringing someone else along with you to appts who can help you with remembering what questions you want to ask and in interpreting the answers. Also, make sure all future weight checks are on the same scale and double check the numbers. The other thing to remember is weight gain is something most accurately measured over months, not weeks. sounds pretty ok to me. But percentiles are very misleading and it depends what charts are used. I cannot do metric in my head. Looking back over baby's whole life, I wonder, what is babies entire gain from lowest weight to now? Also, around this age, (after about 3 months) weight gain rate may...
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  • @llli*alphawoman's Avatar
    Today, 09:07 AM
    My son is 2y9mo, cosleeping and breastfeeding ~6-8x/day lately. We just traveled to visit my parents, who have a house almost 4 times larger than our loft and a large yard and pool. DS has been running, swimming, shovelling, and doing general yard work for probably 8 hours a day. He napped twice, where he usually naps once, and fell asleep at 10 within minutes. He also can take up to an hour to settle at night, so this was remarkable. So, my advice is to add an hour or two of very active physical play and see where that gets you. Fresh air and endorphins are nature's sleep cocktail. Don't forget to keep lots of water on hand and have a few extra high protein snacks available, because you'll need them! :)
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:58 AM
    :ita I am likewise irritated. You were doing great and your pediatrician decided to sabotage you. When she told you that "Not all cries mean hunger", she should have followed it up by saying "but mothers know their babies best, and when a mom feels like a baby will be soothed by nursing, there is no reason to do anything else." I would follow the PP's excellent advice. Nurse more often, offering even if baby seems content to go longer between feedings. Nurse at night. Take away the sleep-extending tools like the swaddle and the paci, if you are using them. This is a good article on milk production, and why there's no one right interval between feedings: https://breastfeedingusa.org/content/article/magic-number-and-long-term-milk-production
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  • @llli*lila.stern's Avatar
    Today, 08:52 AM
    Thank you for that article! It made feel better knowing I'm not alone and that others are experiencing it as well. I've tried swaddling but DD doesn't seem to like it. She likes to scoot around the crib when she sleeps. She also won't take pacifiers. I think she's gotten a liking to her thumb. I hope the frequent comfort nursing sessions will make her less interested in her thumb. :) She really does sleep 8-10 hrs a stretch. I am worried the DF will disrupt her sleep cycles and she'll get used to the 10pm feed. I guess I'll have to cross the bridge when we get there. :)
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:51 AM
    Have you tried the get-the-baby-back-to-the-breast tips here: http://kellymom.com/bf/concerns/child/back-to-breast/?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:50 AM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the baby! It's awesome that you have decided to pursue relactation. It takes a lot of strength to try again! Luckily, it seems like you have a lot of factors in your favor: you have 2 full months before you have to return to work, your baby will latch, you still have milk, and you seem to have a lot of determination! I would simply add in some fenugreek until you are at the recommended level. Just please be aware that while supplements are nice and do provide a supply boost for some moms, they will not do you 1/2 as much good as more pumping. The key to supply is frequent and complete draining of the breast- the more you can do that, the more milk you will see.
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  • @llli*cherbabe20's Avatar
    Today, 08:39 AM
    Hi everyone my daughter (5 months) stopped nursing except for one feeding on one side once a day. I know its weird. So I started pumping and taking fenugreek pills. I was wondering if you can take too much fenugreek in a day??? I have been taking 3 pills 3 times a day. Also I was wondering if anyone takes anything with the fenugreek??? I also started drinking mothers milk tea. I drink 4/5 liters of water a day and eat a good amount of protein. So I am just trying to see if anyone has any other suggestions....thanks so much!!!!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:29 AM
    Awesome! Congratulations on making it through a whole year of hard work!!!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:27 AM
    I don't think so. Maybe talk to your doctor, a lactation consultant, and your child's pediatrician first? I'm loathe to have someone embark on a course of treatment that they may not need, so I'd want to proceed with lots of advice on board!
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  • @llli*jessicahrn's Avatar
    Today, 07:24 AM
    Bsus65 thank you so much! That's what I was insinuating that he can't drink past let down without compressions and if my breasts aren't more on the full side he just chomps my nipple, ouch. Unfortunately I've been given bad advice and was bottle feeding expressed milk the whole first week of his life and then a little after.. I'm sure that didn't help. I've had a lot of struggles but still count my blessings that I am able to continue breastfeeding because some women can't at all. I've tried to quit twice and ended up in hysterics. I just can't quit.. My little guy looks at my with his big blue eyes and loves his milk! I will continue with the pain for now and hopefully CST helps flatten his palate more and move his tongue out and I'm sure with time his mouth will just widen. The chiropractor did a thermal scan on him and he does have tension in his cervical spine so we're working on that little by little.
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  • @llli*designerfish's Avatar
    Today, 07:14 AM
    Hi mammas My DS2 is now three weeks old. Wondering if I should be doing something about his tummy ache. He is getting more gassy and uncomfortable. Today he woke up at 8.30am to start the day with two small vomits and didn't sleep again until midday! He was crying during the morning between feeds and noticeably uncomfortable pulling his legs up every time I put him down. He was exhausted by lunch time and conked out. He has recently started pulling/stretching the nipple during feeds when he has the tummy pain. Which really hurts!
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  • @llli*zaynethepain's Avatar
    Today, 05:26 AM
    http://www.emmapickettbreastfeedingsupport.com/twitter-and-blog/the-dangerous-game-of-the-feeding-interval-obsession Throw the clock away! I'm so irritated at your pediatrician! This is a you got really bad advice issue. Just respond to your baby's cues. She should want you for comfort nursing and nursing to sleep. She's biologically wired to require your presence to feel safe enough to sleep and get the sleep inducing hormones present in breastmilk. As you've seen those extra feedings really make a difference. Getting distracted is common at this age so you may want to offer even more than she cues during the day. It's great that you are dreamfeeding at night. Are you doing any swaddling or pacifier use at night? If so, stop and see if she wakes more often. Or you could bed share all night to see if the close proximity encourages more nursing. 3 oz is an average amount to pump. It's actually what I can get out with a decent over supply going on. So don't worry about your supply. The number one way to increase supply is nurse more which you are doing anyway! Pumping to give bottles when you are not separated from baby is likely just going to complicate your life.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 03:44 AM
    I realize that but frustration is when he still seems hungry but unwilling to get the milk out of the booby since it is easier from a bottle or SNS. For the past week or so I haven't been able to get us back down to our original low 4 oz range of supplement and we have actually been back up to 6-8 oz most of the time. Hopefully the acupuncture appointment has a profound effect today and I'm still feeling really good about it come tomorrow or I'm going to get my hands on Domperidone.
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  • @llli*lila.stern's Avatar
    Today, 03:38 AM
    I'm really distraught at the moment and need some advice, encouragement, anything that will help me feel better. I'm a newbie mom and my DD is 11 weeks old. She was born full term and via emergency c-section. On her 1st month checkup, her pedi said she gained 900g in 3 weeks. She said that you can never overfeed a baby, but my DD's weight gain was above the usual. I told her that DD wants to feed every hour. She sort of gasped at what I said. I told her DS is always crying and rooting every hour. She told me not all cries mean hunger. Her advice was to feed DS every 2 hours and give a paci if DS still wants to suck. (DD hates it and would get even more cranky).Another thing I asked her was if I should wake DS to feed at night because she's starting to sleep at long stretches. She said NO NEED. I'm a stay at home mom and I EBF but pump for a stash in case I need to leave DS with the grandparents. I can pump 3oz in 10 mins total. So I'm sure it's not a supply issue(am i correct?). DS always feeds for 20-30mins. Sometimes even 40! (She just loves to suck). After analyzing the situation I realized DS would search for my breast whenever she is tired and wants to doze off. This is only for naps. Since she was 10 days old she slept long stretches at night. And currently sleeps for 9-10 hours a stretch. At her pedi checkup yesterday, she was weighed and she only gained 200g in 3 weeks!!! :( I feel like I'm gonna cry! She wets 5 diapers and poops 2 times a day but she...
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 01:18 AM
    It's ok for him to suck for comfort and choose not to feed much. If you have milk and he doesn't latch/take much maybe he didn't want much? I wouldn't obsess over individual feeds as long as across a 24 period he has enough. Babies nurse for other reasons than food :)
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  • @llli*luhan.samma's Avatar
    Today, 01:09 AM
    My DS had his first birthday a couple of days back and I want to thank all the moms on this forum. Without you I would not have made it so far. In the first 3 months nursing was very hard as I had oversupply and overactive letdown, I did post a couple of times but I mostly lurked...all night..nursing the baby and reading all the entries. I did not think I will make it to 6 months, now I am planning to let my son self-wean!
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 01:00 AM
    My LO had her posterior TT divided on day 7 and by 4 months we still had issues due to a bottle latch. (Including my daughter struggling to transfer milk and me ending up on medication to boost supply as she only could feed during let -downs). Between advice from an IBCLC and our first sacro cranial osteopathy session feeding dramatically improved. We saw the 2 practitioners within 48 hours of each other so I couldn't conclusively say which helped more etc but I would recommend Osteo. We had 5 sessions in total but 3 would probably have been enough.(For us that is). We also did exercises like TClynx said but ours were suggested by the IBCLC and we only did them a couple of days as she was do much better after the Osteo session she didn't seem to need them. Osteo looks mostly like a head massage so don't expect to see anything amazing :p The biggest difference for us apart from feeding is she had tummy time after the session and was smiling! She'd only ever screamed before... When I mentioned this lovely side effect to the Osteo at the following session she said 'oh I'm not surprised I released alot of tension in her neck' Breast compressions, making your breast into a breast sandwich and the 'flipple' were the 3 main things my IBCLC had me do to help the latch. Good luck with it. Finding the right treatment Will make this easier :) I thought my bf journey was over after seeing the IBCLC at 4 months and finding my daughter couldn't feed effectively I had a...
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  • @llli*babygirlsmommy's Avatar
    Today, 12:11 AM
    hello everyone. first of all allow me to apologize for the lack of capital letters. i am writing from my phone and for some reason i cannot create a capital letter! :shrug anyway, i am new here and i suppose i will begin with some background information. my daughter will be 3 months old this week. i breastfed her, with a great deal of difficulty, for a little over 2 weeks. i was overwhelmed and emotional, she would scream most of the time when i tried to get her to latch, and i was sleep deprived. i made the decision to switch to formula because i could not emotionally handle the stress of breastfeeding any longer. fast forward 9 weeks to now and i greatly regret that decision. i miss breastfeeding as i always was determined to breastfeed for at least 6 months. my daughter also seems to be having a lot of trouble with formula...gas, reflux, etc. i desperately want to breastfeed my daughter again. ideally i would like to build up my supply enough that she is only getting breastmilk either through breastfeeding or pumped milk once i return to work. i began this journey 5 days ago and i have 2 months before i have to go back to work. i have started pumping and have managed to do 8 times 2 of the days and between 5 and 6 the other 3 days because we had visitors. i plan to pump every 2 to 3 hours everyday from here on out. i have also started putting my daughter to the breast and she will latch on for about 2 minutes at a time though i am almost positive she is not...
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