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  • @llli*mummykate's Avatar
    Today, 02:33 AM
    Thank you so much for reading my post and replying so thoroughly :) it's given me lots of good advice and also the help sheet was very useful so I will try the suggestions on there. I've been trying to call the LLL helpline and also another UK breastfeeding support and nobody ever answers. However I have an appointment with my midwife this morning so I will ask her to give me the details of someone local to me. X
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:53 PM
    Hi. This sounds like plugs, and since I cannot speak to whether it is something else possibly as that would be outside my knowledge, my reply is going to assume that is what is going on. The suggestions from your GP sound...not quite right. I am not sure how often a GP has to deal with plugged ducts, but these are something lactation consultants come across frequently, and I would take the advice of lactation consultants for plugs over these suggestions. IBCLC's wrote The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding, and I am attaching their tip sheet for plugs. But it's difficult, because of course in most cases of plugs, mom is not weaning- she wants to keep nursing. And the major way for taking care of plugs (namely effective and regular milk removal) might lead to more milk being made...but since you are pregnant and baby is not nursing much at all, this would probably just be minor and temporary. Binding the breast tightly was once thought to be appropriate when a mom was trying to "dry up" her milk. I have never heard of it for plugs, but it is certainly no longer suggested by those with knowledge of lactation for drying up milk or for any other reason that I am aware of. Heat and direct massage is no longer the only game in town for plugs. In fact heat is a cause of inflammation, so may even be counter productive. Same with massage that is directed right on the plugs. What may be more effective is the "bag of marbles" massage where the whole breast is lifted and...
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  • @llli*stepbelt's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:50 PM
    Thanks again, @llli*mommal. Introducing a variety of foods back into my diet is one suggestion I'd gladly take! Just an update, in case anybody with a similar problem ever comes across this thread in search for answers. Barely one day after I wrote that first post, things started to turn a corner with my son. It has only been a few days of progress, so I don't want to celebrate prematurely, but I am really seeing a change. He is now nursing about 5 times in the daytime hours, staying on the breast for a good 15 minutes each time (given the issues we have had lately, these are extremely long feeds). Honestly, I don't really know what triggered this change. The other morning he was really fussy, so I offered to nurse him expecting to be rejected or at least battled yet again, and he latched on and fed like it was the only thing in the world he wanted. The routine seems different now than it was when he was younger, in that he seems to want to nurse to sleep rather than nurse first thing when he wakes up. He takes lots of naps every day, still, (after every ~1.5-2 hrs of being awake) so this equals plenty of feeds. All in all, I can't say I did anything to fix it because I'm not doing anything differently--I always offered feeds when he was fussy before naps, and he used to reject me. So, he seems to have made progress with this issue on his own (fingers crossed it continues this way!). If anyone else is experiencing this issue, I think this at least goes to show that...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:11 PM
    Don't worry about those videos- they can be helpful but moms always say "My breasts don't look like those perfect breasts in the video" or "My baby doesn't latch nicely like that!" Well, not always but certainly often. IMO those videos should come with a disclaimer, something like "Not all babies latch like this and not all breasts look like this". How leaned back are you, in your current nursing position? A deeper recline might help... Or not! The best thing about your situation is that if you have no pain, there's every reason to believe that things will improve even if you do nothing. A bigger baby with a bigger mouth will be able to achieve a deeper latch with less effort and less assistance from you.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:03 PM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby! When weight gain is normal and there's no pain when you nurse, that's a good latch and there's absolutely no reason to worry about it. A bad latch feels bad, and the baby may not gain well. So don't worry about the turned-in lips, the smacking, or the air gulping. My guess is that those things will improve with time, as baby gets bigger and stronger. No worries, you're doing great! Do you want to keep supplementing with formula? We may be able to help you ditch it, if you want!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:42 PM
    Ok, so normal weight gain in the early months is an average of about an ounce a day. And many babies do lose weight for a few days after being born, so that is why I was surprised at the rapid weight gain. Of course, some babies do gain faster than others, and some, very fast , but rapid gain when baby is bottle fed might indicate over-feeding. Paced bottle feeding is a very specific feeding technique that is thought to reduce nipple confusion and overfeeding and breast refusal when a baby has to be given bottles. I will link some videos and a description that I think are helpful below. It can be done with any bottle nipple. As far as I know, the claims by bottle manufacturers that their products are 'more like the breast' or help babies learn to nurse better are marketing more than anything else. The overall point of paced feeding is to slow feedings down and to allow baby to have more control over intake. Burping baby during bottle feedings is a technique to get a baby to take more than baby would otherwise take during the bottle feeding. Paced feeding basically has the opposite purpose. Unless baby has a trapped air bubble that is bothering baby, which baby will let you know about, there is little need to burp a baby. Holding baby upright during and after feedings usually helps baby bring up air easily. A newborn breastfed baby will typically nurse 10-12 times in 24 hours at a minimum, and irregularly- part of the day, clustering several feedings around the...
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  • @llli*pteroglossus's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:48 PM
    Yeah, I ask myself the same question. Believe me, I have tried! It doesn't work. I think at night I fall asleep before her or with her most of the time. At nap time, when I try this, she will play in the bed for ages, but not go to sleep. I don't fall asleep during her nap, so I am on edge waiting to go downstairs so I can start working (I look after her in the morning and until she falls asleep, then I work all afternoon and evening while my husband looks after her). Even when I am really tired and do want to take a nap, she won't go to sleep and will fool around and keep me awake (at night she lies calmly). If I leave her in the room by herslef and say "stay here til I come get you", she'll stay for maybe 40 min, but won't fall asleep. Then she'll be shouting for her dad or me, or coming downstairs, or whatever. and ends up not sleeping. Basically, if I don't nurse her to sleep, she doesn't take a nap, and then it screws up our day because she is overtired in the evening.
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  • @llli*nosila's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:41 PM
    At birth he was able to only latch on the tip of the nipple. It led to a blister on both nipples. By day two he had lost too much weight and his blood sugar was extremely low. I started to pump and provide colostrum through the use of a syringe. By day three my milk had come in and we started to feed through the use of a slow nipple with the bottle held at a 180 degree angle to his mouth. As for trying to attach, I have tried multiple different positions and even tried to use a nipple shield (my nipple would not fit inside the Medium Medela). As for weight gain, they measured him as having 2lbs between his birth and 18 days (his two week appointment). As for other options than bottles, I haven't heard of anything. I use slow nipples in Playtex Ventaire bottles and I use Breastflow bottles. Both are supposed to help train the baby to latch better. As for pausing during feedings, I burp throughout each feeding. Baby doesn't always finish the 3 ounces but I have found that if I offer less he will act hungry and I will be providing him two to three bottles for one feeding time period.
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  • @llli*findmeintahiti's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:55 PM
    my baby is six weeks old now and we're still having issues with latch. we saw lactation consultant in the first week because my nipples were extremely sore and scanned. since then we have gotten more comfortable but lately I'm still finding a real struggle with getting him to open wide/deep latch (nipples are sore) and even when I think he has a good latch when he comes off my nipple is lipsticks shape- both sides. I have large breasts and use cross hold. I also lean back but I have stopped holding the under part of breast and I'm not sure if that's part of the problem. it's really hard at night especially, he's so feisty and I hate feeling like we're struggling and he's frustrated. I do have the book womanly art of breast feeding, looked at KellyMom and watch a million videos but they all look like baby just latches on their own and they're feeding like champs which makes it hard for me... especially the side lying position- we did that but he's not deeply latched- is that even possible? (he also pulls at nipple but I think that's a milk issue?) thanks so much for anyone who relates or has thoughts!!
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  • @llli*measure.thesun's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:55 PM
    Hi. My baby is one month old and I'm breastfeeding him. He was 6 lbs 11 oz at birth, 6 lbs 4 oz at one week, 7 lbs and 4 oz at two weeks, and is now 9 lbs 7 oz at one month. I do occasionally supplement with formula, only at night when I'm mentally and physically drained, about 1-3 oz every other day. There is no doubt his weight gain is from the breast milk as he eats so little formula and his poopy diapers are seedy and yellow every time. The doctor says his weight gain is exactly what they'd expect and they couldn't ask for anything better. The problem is my baby's latch. I know deep down that it's not right. His lips are curled inwards, sometimes I hear smacking and gulps of air. There are times he unlatches and I see that he only had the nipple and I cringe. I have almost no pain anymore and no cracking. But my mind can't let the latch go. I go back to work in less that two weeks and will be pumping so he will begin to be bottle fed much more frequently. He won't take a pacifier, so that is not interfering. My question is, do I seek help to fix the latch or just let it go since he is gaining so well and I'm not in any pain? May seem like a stupid question, but I really need the reassurance. Thanks in advance.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:06 PM
    Ok. Be careful to not get freaked out by these kinds of weight checks. One, it is entirely normal for intake to vary session to session, from almost immeasurable to several ounces. 2, they can be hard to do accurately. If baby pees, poops, etc between the checks, that has to be considered when the numbers are taken. After 2 weeks, lactation consultants doing a before and after nursing weight check at a consultation are usually happy if there is transfer of 2 ounces or more. But again, seeing a measurement that is lower than that might be fine. I have no idea what the expectation is prior to 2 weeks is, but it is certainly not more than that. Weighing a baby when he wants to nurse and then again when he is done nursing and wants to fall/stay asleep can be upsetting to baby. Be careful about interrupting feeding normalcy with lots of before and after nursing weight checks. I suggest do enough to reassure yourself baby is transferring milk normally and no more.
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  • @llli*mummykate's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:45 PM
    Apologies in advance for the essay but I've tried to include all relevant info.... Since becoming pregnant (I'm now 14 weeks) my milk supply has reduced considerably and my 24 month old has also stopped breastfeeding and only comfort sucks for 30 seconds or so if he wakes at night (which is only every other night or so) My right breast is sore and feels bruised on the underside, my breast is full of lots of little lumps (normal for me) but no specifically hard lump. I have used heat pads and hot shower on the area and massaged the area to try and ease it in case it was a plugged duct and also expressed a few times after massaging and heating to see if it helped but haven't been consistent as I'm not really sure what I'm supposed to do and how often. It did bring some relief after expressing but not made the pain go away. It's been hurting for about 6 days now and is much worse when I wear a bra, I haven't been resized yet so have feeling that my ill fitting bra may be contributing. I'm confused because I've just been to my GP today and told her all the above and she told me to not let him comfort suck anymore, that I should NOT express and I should constantly wear bra and wrap my breasts up as tight as possible and stead fast until the pain goes away and to apply heat to relieve pain and swelling if I need to. She said if it's a plugged duct that I need to leave it and wait for my body to reabsorb the milk. But will my breasts re-absorb the milk now that I'm...
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:27 PM
    Pump weaning is harder than I thought. It is tough to stop pumping knowing that I haven't oozed out my full capacity yet!
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  • @llli*elandlanes.mommy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:21 PM
    I just ordered a baby scale from amazon. It had really good ratings and I'll be able to use the same scale and do a weigh, then feed and weigh. It should be here tomorrow.
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  • @llli*elandlanes.mommy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:10 PM
    He's had two more dirty diapers, one about wife the size of an ok diaper, and one at least three times the size. Maybe this fella is just different than my others.. He only nurses about 10-15 minutes at the most. I can't keep him on. He'll shut his mouth tight and spit out whatever was in it... One of my friends had two babies that gained weight really quickly, but then had a third that was never the chubby baby that we're both used to... Maybe he's like that?
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  • @llli*bfwmomof3's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:17 AM
    Too cute! So... why can't you tell her the boobs are tired and it's time to stop nursing and go to sleep at naptime? I know what you mean about feeling like she will never be ready to stop. My three-year-old is very much the same way. But looking at my eight-year-old son it's pretty obvious that yes, a time will come when they will have zero interest in nursing. I sometimes tease my son by asking if he would like to breastfeed and he very vehemently says "NOO!" This is my boy who used to get so upset when he didn't instantly get to nurse when I walked in.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:22 AM
    2 weeks is the very general rule of thumb for regaining birth weight- If all you know is the birth weight and the 2 week weight. Some sources say 2 weeks, some say 10 to 14 days, etc. I have seen breastfed babies who were back at birth weight before one week and those who took 3 weeks and all was fine...of course it depends how much baby lost initially, when weight gain started, etc etc. Basically, if baby is not back to birth weight by 2 weeks, it is a sign something is possibly wrong. But it's a late sign, in my opinion. You have the data (that 4 day weight check) to track weight gain more closely and that is good. Just don't track it so closely you panic. Don't check too often in other words. Every several days is plenty, and once gain seems ok you can go to the more usual weight check schedule.
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  • @llli*alysandrasmom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:10 AM
    Thanks! My son is very picky when it comes to nursing. He may want to nurse only once a day of I'm lucky... Which of course has killed my supply. I've added back an additional pumping session while at work and trying to get him to nurse as much as possible but he is pretty stubborn. When he wants a bottle, he will let you know. Fenugreek has been added back and trying to make sure my water intake is high. Just going to take some time...
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  • @llli*elandlanes.mommy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:05 AM
    He nurses a lot. Probably every 45-75 minutes during the day-which is how all my kids have been like. He cluster feeds from about 6:30 -9:00, sleeps for an hour or so, cluster feeds til around midnight and then sleeps and wakes around every two hours to eat until around 9 am. I think one thing is, I have never had to take a baby back that soon. In fact, the only reason he was scheduled to be seen was because his dr was going on vacation and won't be back until June 22nd. Usually we just go in for a two week check. I read in an article that day four is usually the lowest birthweight day for breastfed babies... So I guess it was normal for him to be that low on day 4. I think my last baby took two weeks to regain birth weight... I can't remember for sure. He was the first baby I didn't try supplementing with in the early weeks. My first two, I was scared to death and had no help so I supplemented, which probably ly attributed to earlier weight gain. He's only pooped once today but has had two majorly soaking wet diapers... I ended up pumping another oz in about 3-4 minutes. He slept for an hour, woke up, nursed for a full letdown and is now conked back out.. I have a hard time, even with compressions, getting to eat while asleep.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:55 AM
    Output (Poops and what you pumped) indicate there is enough milk and baby is getting it. pumping 2 ounces in 6 minutes is great output no matter how you slice it. In other words, this contradicts the weight gain numbers. And how often is baby nursing? (times in a day) Good you are going to start weighing baby on a scale you can more regularly use. Slow weight gain when baby is getting enough to eat does happen. Sometimes there is an underlying health issue leading to slow gain. Of course it is far to early to even suspect this, I just like to point it out because too often slow gain is blamed on breastfeedng when there may be something else going on.
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  • @llli*andreica's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:36 AM
    lol, I understand. Well, then I guess your best option is a padded bra, with thicker, firm cups so that basically you can put anything inside and it won't show, that won't make you look lumpy. There are plenty of those around. And then it's just about finding good disposable ones, regardless of shape or size. You'll have to replace them often anyway, since you leak so much, because of the risk of thrush in all that moisture for so long.
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  • @llli*elandlanes.mommy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:23 AM
    His output still seems ok. Yesterday he had 6 ok dirty diapers and plenty of wets. All clear urine. I'm still nervous about my supply. This whole not feeling full thing is unnerving. I'm used to milk spraying out when I remove a breast pad. After baby had been asleep for half an hour (I was fixing stuff for my other kids in that time) I sat down with a manual pump and pumped 2 oz in 6 minutes. So I guess that seems good. I just really hope he starts gaining. I plan on taking him in Friday to check, but I can't make it up to the scale I weighed him at last time. The scale I'm going to is the one I'll be using most, as it's the closest pediatricians office to my house-10 minutes vs 35... I know it won't be as accurate but I can start going there every few days instead of having to wait longer or put him in the car for long periods which he hates....
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  • @llli*midnightsangel's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:11 AM
    Those look cool but the reviews say if you leak a lot they lose their stick and some moms related getting thrush to using the pads. I think that would be good for a mom who only leak a drop or two. I'm like a waterfall lol
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:37 AM
    * But that means defrosted milk can be at fridge temp for 24 hours (or possibly more) Right? Not room temp??? Your specific question is not really addressed in the milk handling guidelines I have from LLL- This is probably because there are simply too many variables in such a situation (temperature, time in bag, etc.) I would say it would not be safe to let cold milk come completely to room temp for some undefined length of time - At some point, expressed milk will spoil at room temperature. But here are the guidelines anyway, they are guidelines, not hard and fast rules, perhaps you can find a way to use this info to figure out your situation. The first page is more about how to give bottles to the breastfed baby so baby does not have issues or being overfed or refusing to nurse due to bottles. 2nd page is milk handling guidelines. http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/23_safehandling_storageofyour_milk.pdf If your baby nurses, by far the easiest and safest solution for outings with baby would be to nurse baby when out. Is there some reason you cannot do this? If nursing in public makes you uncomfortable, we can offer many ideas.
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:36 AM
    Once you defrost the milk, you have to use it within 24 hours (there are recent research that says you don't really have to, but I won't bet on it yet). To be on safe side, I would put it in cooler bag and bring a Thermos of hot water to warm the milk when needed. You can defrost it in your fridge overnight, so it will be slushy the next morning of your trip. I am guessing it would take 10 minutes or so to warm the milk up in your Thermos, but you want to check often to make sure it does not get too hot. Ideally, it should be at your body temperature, but does not really matter if your baby isn't picky.
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