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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 06:32 AM
    I nursed my kids until they were 3 years old, but the only way I did so without resentment was because I weaned them down to 1-2 nightly nursing sessions at around 12 months, and none by age 2. I think Estervegan gave a great suggestion about naps, but if that isn't possible for you or just isn't enough, here are the things that helped me night-wean my kids: - Communication. It helps even if your LO isn't very verbal yet. Let your LO know ahead of time that the milk bar will be closed for the night. "You are going to sleep. Mommy is going to sleep. is going to sleep. Everyone is going to sleep all night long. You can nurse in the morning, when the sun is up." In the morning, following a successful night, reinforce the lesson: "You did such a good job! Everyone slept all night long. Now that the sun is up, let's nurse!" - Try to get baby to go to sleep without being on the breast- that is, try something like nursing her and then putting her in bed awake and getting her to sleep by telling her a story, or nursing her and then lying down next to her. Inter posing that gap between nursing and sleep can help break the sleep association, and get her to form a new sleep habit. - Keep a sippy cup or bottle of water available. Night waking toddlers are sometimes really thirsty. - Sleep with a pajama top on. Sleeping nude or in easy-access pajamas means the battle is half-lost before it even begins- the easier it is for your LO to get her hands on your breasts,...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 06:06 AM
    I had one kid who would routinely go a week between poops and one who pooped 3-5 times a day until close to a year. Both 100% normal. I'm a little surprised that the doc told you to go to the ER if you see another bloody poop. My guess is that he/she didn't want to explain the difference between bloody poops that are of little concern and ones that are a medical emergency. If you see small streaks or specks of blood in the baby's poop, that is no big deal. They are probably a result of either a small tear, or some sort of intestinal irritation (which is quite common when mom has or has had oversupply, but can also come from illness or allergy/intolerance to something environmental or in mom's diet). If you see blobs of what looks like red jelly- a.k.a. currant jelly stool- that is suggestive of a medical emergency and you go to the ER without stopping, because that is a symptom of a very serious condition called an intussusception. Most bloody poops are nothing to worry about!
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  • @llli*esthervegan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:18 PM
    Sounds to me that your baby is doing fine. The frequent bowel mov'ts are not problematic and if you are seeing little strains of red in the feces it does not warrant a trip to the emergency room .
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  • @llli*esthervegan's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:10 PM
    I loved reading your post ! I totally relate to the don't offer/don't refuse method of mothering a nursing toddler and I chuckled in recognition of my self in your situation. I too had a nursing child who was going strong and breastfeeding 8-10 a day at that age. And I too had to sit up and use the cradle hold for every feed. When I was at my wits end a LLL Leader shared her coping method at a meeting. She napped during the day and that made all the difference when her little one woke for night time nursing. I did that too and it saved my sanity.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:48 PM
    Baby has been gaining rapidly, right? Average or above? Above average would indicate op. That is probably the most reliable indicator. It does not mean op is a problem, because op can be there without it being a problem. Since normal, average pump output when pumping is replacing a feeding is 1-3 ounces, regularly pumping 1.5 ounces shortly after a baby has nursed is an indication of high or high-normal milk production. I would not worry about baby's nursing frequency or nursing for comfort 'upping' production. Nursing frequently is not going to do this, because the frequency of nursing does not substantially change what a baby intakes overall. (Unless mom has low production- in that case, more frequent nursing helps increase production to normal.) Likewise, offering both sides is not likely to be any problem at this age. It is usually best to leave this up to baby- if baby wants both sides, fine, if not, fine also. But overall, a baby needs what they need, daily. In other words, a baby who is nursing frequently needs smaller amounts each time. Also, nursing frequently is actually an excellent way to alleviate or reduce the possible ill effects of overproduction for both mom and baby. So I would suggest just keep following baby's lead on this. Pumping after nursing sessions, or between sessions, or anytime mom is not actually separated from baby or for some other reason is missing a feeding WILL act to increase milk production. Is it a problem? That depends on...
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  • @llli*zaynasmom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:12 PM
    I've got an overactive let down too and Lo is 3 months. I did block feeding and basically stop feeding when lo decides let down is too much (so I keep a blanket or bib handy to catch all the excess milk). I also only feed on one side during each feed unless lo decides she wants more. I did notice that she can handle my let down when she is extremely hungry (when I've been at work all day). I'll also say we've just got into the routine that when she starts coughing on the milk I take her off for a bit and when she releases during let down I just cover it up til it passes. She still gets angry but understands it's part of eating now. Also, I have noticed that it's easier to feed now that I know this, not sure if my let down has become less overactive since these techniques.
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  • @llli*ubaz's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:26 PM
    Thank you so much @llli*maddieb! Your lovely reply really puts my mind at ease. I'll keep doing what I'm doing, stop focusing so much on the bloody weight of his diapers and wait for him to get over how interesting the world is :P Thanks again, i really appreciate it.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:04 PM
    Mommal has given you excellent feedback. My suggestion is, do not forget that you and your baby are biological partners. During the process of a baby weaning, (to solids or anything else) your body will also require "weaning." So you may find that even if you are sure you want to stop pumping at work now that your baby is turning one, you may find that for your own health and comfort this needs to be done gradually. There is no right or wrong choice as far as whether to keep pumping at work, how quickly a baby might incorporate solids into their diet, or in how long to nurse your baby. There are as many pathways in this as there are nursing pairs. Also, there is no reason to make this choice at one year or any other particular age. If what you are doing now is working for you, you can keep going as long as you like, whether that be for another week or another year. If it is not working for you, you could transition to something else at any point.
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  • @llli*scoob4751's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:47 PM
    No rash or anything! He has never had a rash. I am not sure about my production, honestly. That mystery is a bit frustrating. I know I spray a little when he pops off the boob at the beginning of a feed, but that's it. I pump roughly 1.5 oz after a feed, so it seems not much? (I work on Fridays only, so I pump once in a while to stock up). He has always done a lot of comfort sucking as he rejects a paci, and sometimes is on my boob every hour, so this might be amping up my supply...I mostly always nurse one breast only per feed, as he seems satisfied. I used to stay on that same breast for 2 hours generally to curb overproduction if he wanted to suck, but lately he seems hungrier and I am never am engorged so I might offer both breasts within 2 hours...maybe that is amping the production... He was born 8 pounds and is already 17 pounds. Anything I should do?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:44 PM
    Do you produce a lot of milk? That is what this sounds like. Yes your baby may be getting more milk than many other babies his age. This is not a problem when it is breastmilk from the tap, and as long as it is not causing you any issues (getting engorged or something) there is no reason to worry about making lots of milk. I do not think that even lots of normal (as in, not diarrhea and not constipated) pooping is harming him, but the lots of wiping that goes along with all the poop might be irritating. Is there any diaper rash or anything?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:29 PM
    Did you mean definitely is being overfed or is not overfed? I just want to clarify. If baby is definitely being overfed, then it makes sense to reduce supplements, right? Ok. So the thing to know about this is that the size of a normal feeding varies, from very little- immeasurable, really... to about 2 or maybe 3 ounces. Just like anyone else, sometimes babies want a very little, or a lot. Also, for some babies, one ounce is a whole feeding. BUT. It would certainly be more reassuring that baby is capable of normal intake if a 5 week old baby took more like 2 ounces during the first 30 minutes or so, at least some of the time. So again I think intake might be an issue and the question is why. I listed several possibilities above. So do you think the switching sides is helping or hurting? Maybe not switch quite so often? Plugs are another sign of poor milk transfer, but I also wonder if the switching and the compressions are aggravating the plugs. I know I just said to try compressions and switching, I do not mean to be contradictory. These are good ideas, but maybe the methodology just needs a tweak. See this is what I am not getting. This overt sleepiness without good milk transfer is one week old behavior, not 5 week old behavior. This is why I wonder if baby is being oversupplemented or if baby has something else wrong. If you mean in the crib or basinet, yes. short stretches might be normal because baby is being awoken by that circumstance. Will baby...
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  • @llli*scoob4751's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:59 PM
    Hi there ladies, I have already asked my pediatrician about this situation and she said not to worry, but I wanted to run it by you all, since I honestly trust you more for BF wisdom. So my son is EBF and a happy, healthy, alert 4 month old who has doubled his birth weight and then some...he eats every two hours 'round the clock and still poops at least 5 times a day, if not more (he used to poop with each nursing session). This is where I get poop obsessed...never thought I would go there :) Poops are mostly golden colored liquid with seeds, sometimes green with a bit of mucus, sometimes involving a tiny bit of grunting with explosion, but no biggy. Yesterday, for the first time ever, there was a bit of bright red blood in diaper...Kelly Mom's advise was good and the pedi said not to worry unless it happens again--if we see it again, to go to the ER. Well, it hasn't happened again. Maybe he just had a minor anal tear, but I think the frequency of pooping might be stressing out his tubes! My question stems from comparing him to other 4 m olds I know, who poop every other day etc...Does he sound OK? I have asked around and people always say there is a huge variation with babies. This seems like a huge variation, but I guess adults have the same kind of variation :)
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  • @llli*zaynasmom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:52 PM
    My sister introduced solids early for her son at 4.5 because the doctor recommended it due to his slow weight gain. She had to do a lot of supplement breastfeeding and formula in the first few months because her supply was low. He's now 1.5 years old and still bf at least 5-10 times throughout the day and night along with food. He's still a bit on the thin side and doesn't have any digestive concerns. Do what you feel is right. Also understand that 20 years ago children were starting solids at this age and seem to be okay now :)
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  • @llli*newmama2015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:57 PM
    Thank you for your detailed response! Baby is definitely being overfed as per the lactation specialists. In the first 30 min baby usually gets 20-30 ml (1 oz) from breastfeeding. I try compressions all the time and we switch sides btw 4-6 times. She never empties the breast and now I have some plugged ducts, so I pump to help with that. She also usually sucks actively for 5-10 min and falls asleep and I try really hard to wake her up. If she wakes up she takes 4-10 ml and falls asleep again. If we continue to breastfeed for long hours she doesn't sleep in any long stretches (max 30 min of sleep), is that normal? Also when she sleeps in my lap sometimes she wakes up on her own screaming and wants to feed and we try again..she then sleeps after very few minutes and barely transfers anything. And the cycle continues. However, she rarely sleeps when she is given the bottle for a supplement, but she is still slow (100 ml in 30-40 min). I am very confused and do not know how to wean the supplement or proceed :( The situation is extremely exhausting.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:48 PM
    I think at this point you can keep doing what you are doing and do not need to worry so much. Your baby sounds normal and healthy. The behavior at the breast is common for this age. Baby may really be getting all he needs in very short nursing sessions. No harm in offering frequently, and I assume you have stopped block feeding? But do not assume a short feeding means it was not a "good" feeding. Your milk production is in all likelihood fine. If you had OP before, then your production would naturally reduce considerably over time and still be plenty. Many moms notice changes in how their breasts feel and how baby nurses at around this age and assume it means they do not make enough milk, but in fact all is normal. Of course if baby is really not nursing frequently enough to maintain normal milk production going forward, you can consider pumping or hand expressing to ensure continued normal production. Dehydration is one of those concerns that, IMO, is overstated. Of course severe dehydration is very serious. But how often does that really happen in a healthy, well cared for baby in places where there is safe sources of fluids? Here are my thoughts. First, it is unlikely any overall healthy baby esp. one of this age will becomes dehydrated unless adequate fluids are withheld (baby is a victim of neglect) or lives where there are not safe fluids (and is not breastfed) or baby is ill with diarrhea or vomiting. Thirst is a great motivator, and if baby was thirsty,...
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:31 AM
    Background - baby is almost 16 months (next week). She picks off of her plate 3x a day plus about 4-5 snacks, and she loves water. She doesn't eat a lot, and generally goes through periods of only eating fruits/veggies and refusing to eat meat and most carbs (I still offer with every meal). She nurses an average of 8-10x a day, mostly at night. She nurses to sleep and most nights is still waking every 2-3 hours. Last week she finally started stretching that out and snuggling with daddy to go back to sleep a couple times, but she's about to break out another tooth, so we're back to her norm. She had a tongue and lip tie at birth, revised at 6 weeks, and according to the specialist I have seen, she never relearned how to suck appropriately, so I am in pain every time we nurse. My period came back last month (boo), so between hormone fluctuations and one tooth after another (her latch gets worse with new teeth), the pain has been worse lately. Add to that the exhaustion from waking every 2-3 hours to feed her at night (only position I can nurse in is cradle sitting upright/against pillows), I am just ready to be done. I wouldn't mind nursing her at nap times and bedtimes, but every other time in between.... Any suggestions? We already do don't offer/don't refuse, and have since she turned a year old. For night feedings, we have in the past tried Pantley's gentle pull-off method (nothing gentle about it for us, and it only finally allowed me to lay her down in her own bed...
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  • @llli*alfiegrace's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:21 AM
    I have a similar experience -- I have insomnia any time she goes to sleep earlier than usual or falls asleep in the car at bedtime. The best advice I've heard for insomnia is to relax! Do something fun and calming at bedtime. Read a book! Also don't sit in your bed during the day if possible.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:19 AM
    Vasospasms would not cause a crack. Most likely, whatever caused the crack is also causing the vasospasm. When baby comes off the breast, does the nipple look ridged/wedged/creased/shaped like a new lipstick?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:14 AM
    Speaking as someone who has done the triple feeding routine- nurse, bottle-feed, and pump- it is REALLY hard. Don't beat yourself up if you cannot always achieve the "ideal" amount of pumping. Anything you do is better than nothing, so even if there's a day when you only pump once, give yourself a high five. I know you're wondering if this will ever get better, and we cannot promise you that it will. All we can say is that things do get better for most moms who have the determination to hang in there past these early struggles. I personally think you have a very good chance of being in that majority, because you have so much going for you. Your baby will nurse, and he can actually transfer a pretty good amount of milk when he nurses. 1.3 oz is a nice snack for a breastfed baby, and add up enough snacks and you're taking about significant intake! And you aren't using that much supplement, on a daily basis. you are doing an awesome job!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:07 AM
    :cheer Yay for the stroller! So glad it worked. I remember doing it with my LOs every day, even in the dead of winter... It's a sweet memory- bundling my LOs up, going out in the snow, seeing the baby's eye's drift shut, and then going back to the house for hot cocoa with the bigger one! The amount your baby is nursing does sound adequate for a 6 month old- of course, take that with a huge grain of salt because some 6 month olds are going to nurse a lot more often than that and some less. It's just that if your baby is being nursed on demand, and you are nursing at night, most likely he is getting all he needs without you having to second guess his intake. I think that if you are concerned that he isn't nursing enough, just try offering more often. If he is hungry, he will nurse, and little snacks add up to big meals if there are enough of them.
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  • @llli*raydians's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:05 AM
    Here is information and helpful hints from Dr. Jack Newman's website on dealing with vasospasms. http://www.breastfeedinginc.ca/content.php?pagename=doc-V-RP Take care! Anne Marie
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  • @llli*raydians's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:00 AM
    Wow are you a dedicated nurser! Dr. Jack Newman has created a cream for sore, cracked, and damaged nipples. It includes a painkiller and a local antibiotic and a local anti-fungal. I don't know who would be able to prescribe that where you are, but for sure a doctor can. In Canada an IBCLC can also. Here is a link for the recipe and a bit about it so that you could give to your doctor in case s/he doesn't know about it. http://breastfeeding.about.com/od/nippleproblems/qt/triplenipple.htm Maybe that suggestion might help. Hope you find relief! Anne Marie
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  • @llli*ubaz's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:16 AM
    Hi ladies. It has taken me long enough to join this wonderful forum, considering how many issues my beautiful boy and I have had breastfeeding since he was born! This latest one has been worrying me the most and keeping me up at night, so I'm hoping to get some advice here. My son is almost 5 months old and in the past few weeks, has become a very distractible nurser. I nurse in a quiet dark room, lying down on my side with him, and even then, he will gulp down the first letdown (which comes quickly) and then start getting distracted until he loses interest. He feeds for 3-5 minutes and won't take the other side. The only time I get a decent feed in is right before he falls asleep or in the middle of the night, or during a dream feed. So he's definitely capable of it. I think part of this is habit maybe. I had a huge oversupply and overactive letdown for the first few months. Constant engorgement, pumping 6-7oz from each breast between feeds, etc. I ended up doing 6 hourly block feeds to try and regulate and finally did around 3.5 months. This oversupply has meant that my son doubled his birth weight just before 3 months (born at 3.33kg) and currently weighs around 8.1kg. So he's thriving. I'm not sure if this is relevant but he had lip and tongue tie, which was revised at birth. It seems his lip tie has grown back a little bit but his latch seems ok (I am able to easily flip his lip out when he doesn't do it himself). Due to my oversupply, he's never...
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  • @llli*m11612's Avatar
    February 5th, 2016, 10:11 PM
    So many hugs to you! You are working so hard and I'm sure you will see payoff soon! I won't add to all the great info you've gotten here about supplements, weights etc However, I thought i'd share my experience with bottle refusal and going back to work. I really liked the idea of making the best of going back to work. When I was first going back to work my daughter wouldn't take bottles either. I was so stressed about it. We were still working on latch and my nipples were still healing. Man that seemed to last forever! In our case she ended up taking bottles when I was at work or she ate frozen milk from a spoon. She did come in to work at my lunch break which was really nice and she nursed a lot when I was home. I had been so worried about the bottle situation for nothing. I hope it turns out that way for you too. Also, I was so glad that I stuck it out through those tough days of nursing with pain and worry. Having a newborn is so unbelievably hard even when breastfeeding goes smoothly. Even with my second child I had a hard time believing things would get easier. I'm at a point now where I can look back on those first few months and see how far we've come. I'm currently tandem breastfeeding my 4 year old daughter and 11 month old son. I don't know why those first few months have to be so hard, but I do feel a sense of accomplishment from having made it through. From now on, the only newborns for me will be those I can hand back to their parents. ;) Good luck.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    February 5th, 2016, 09:47 PM
    :ita There is no way that stopping solids entirely or switching to baby led solids will cause harm to your baby's digestion. It will either help, or be harmless. I agree with mommal the only possible issue is if baby has been getting lots of solids cutting back on them might reduce calories into baby. But this would be easily made up for by nursing more assuming your milk production is normal. Solids = more sleep in a baby is one of those unfortunate myths that will not die. I also agree, do not beat yourself up. Your baby's gut has been so wonderfully protected because baby is still nursing. Gassiness and constipation can occur when solids are introduced no matter what the age. It is a big change, which is why I like baby led solids as I think it makes solids a more gradual experience. But no matter what, how or when, things change when baby starts eating solids!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    February 5th, 2016, 09:36 PM
    Ok, so while I do think there may be a milk transfer issue, the fact is a baby not wanting to be put down and sleeping better when held by mom or another trusted adult is one of the facts of early infancy. Not all babies and not all the time, but most babies most of the time sleep best when held, and sleep shorter or otherwise protest when put down. Humans developed as a species over hundreds of thousands of years in places and circumstances where a mother putting her infant down was likely and quickly fatal to the infant. So human infants developed behaviors to ensure this was unlikely to happen. A few thousand years of living in something like a house and far less time sleeping separately from mother has not changed humans in any significant way so this instinctual need remains intact. It may be hard, but there is nothing unusual about your baby sleeping best when snuggled on your chest or lying beside you. Some moms solve this issue by bedsharing, wearing baby in a sling, getting as much help with other duties as possible in the early months, handing baby off to someone else to be comforted after nursing, or (typically) some combination of those. If you would like more info on any of those strategies, please let us know. As far as baby sleeping better after being supplemented, this may be due to baby possibly being over fed. A baby might be overfed if they get too much supplement overall or too much supplement at once. To know if this is possibly happening, you...
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  • @llli*zachary.smommy's Avatar
    February 5th, 2016, 07:24 PM
    I bought a scale from babies r us and read reviews that people have used it for before and after feeds. But it isn't that precise so I really can't use it for that. But i could still use it for general weighing when he lets me :) At this point I am continuing to feed andsupplement but I can't pump as much as I should. I do about 5-6 times a day in between feeding him about 10 times a day. It is really hard to do more. I don't know how people do it more often. I was prescribed Reglan to up my supply and took it for a day and ahalf but I'm going to stop. It is making me EXTREMELY tired to the point where I can't keep my eyes open. Baby weighed 8lbs1oz at our f/u lactation appointment. He was 7.10 a week prior on same scale so that was good. He gets usually anyahere from 5-8 oz of supplement a day, but one day took 10oz. I just want to be done with this and feed him normally. Sometimes we have good feeds and I can see he is drinking a lot but other times he just hangs out on the boob or falls asleep and doesn't drink. I don't really get it. At the LC appt he only got 1.3oz in about 20-25min. I hope things just improve from here. I see people say that it does get better but I am wondering if for some babies it never gets better. Will we always struggle with position, latch, transfer... I really hope not since I wanted to breastfeed until 1 year at least.
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  • @llli*namily's Avatar
    February 5th, 2016, 04:00 PM
    Mommal, the walk around the neighborhood in the stroller worked wonders! I can't believe I didn't think of this before! I was able to put ds to sleep and tire out dd so that when we come back from the walk, she falls asleep faster at nap time! My concerns and continuing issue (what's life with out problems after problems? !) is that ds is nursing less often. Less time is at the breast because of distractions from everywhere, everything, and anyone. I didn't like the idea of giving dd an ipad or electronic device for me to put ds asleep, but I tried, and it didn't work. Ds was interested in it as well, and dd would talk and cause ds to be distracted and not nurse. I can tell he's gotten skinnier, but he still is a happy healthy baby. I would say nursing has dropped to 5 times within a day, plus maybe 2-3 night feedings. Is this amount adequate for 6mo? There's times where he won't feed so I pump instead to try and maintain supply. I'll nurse after with varying responses from him. Sometimes he will nurse and a letdown will occur even after pumping and other times he won't nurse or seems upset because the flow is not efficient for him. The ebm is put into a sippy cup (1oz) for him to play and drink. Sometimes he will drink from it, sometimes he won't (trying to get him familiar with a nuk sippy cup spout to prepare when hiring a nanny). I'm just worried about his milk intake and my overall supply (just this week there had been changes that make me feel like I have a...
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