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  • @llli*tamagojo's Avatar
    Today, 09:20 PM
    Thank you for your reassurance! Sorry for replying so slowly. Yesterday I spent the day snoozing whenever my LO gave me a chance. I'm living in Japan, and I rarely see people breastfeeding here. This is my first baby, so I'm unsure of myself, and when the nurse suggested I should bottle feed as well as breastfeed I assumed she.was correct. I should have done more research. The hospital where I gave birth seems to be very pro-formula. I think it gives them control over early weight gain. I didn't realize that when I went there. Again, I should have done more research, so I would know what I was looking for. The nearest chapter of LLL is an hour by car, however I hope to go once my LO is a little bigger. Anyway, after coming home from hospital, I had a terrible day when my LO was crying, pooping and her stomach seemed so full, so I thought that with breastfeeding and formula I was overfeeding my LO, so I decided to cut out the formula, because I knew she would stop drinking breastmilk when she was full, but I had my doubts about her feeling full from formula.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 06:32 PM
    Rapley, Gill,Murkett, Tracey Baby-Led Weaning: The Essential Guide to Introducing Solid Foods - and Helping Your Baby to Grow Up a Happy and Confident Eater
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Today, 05:27 PM
    You have given your baby so much up until this point, and I think from your posts it is clear to anyone reading how much you love your child, and how much you want to ensure she is healthy, and nourished, and fed with love. Thank you for sharing your journey here.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 05:20 PM
    I agree with tclynx re: pumps. Hospital grade is what you want for increasing milk production. These are rented, so basically whatever brand is locally available would be what to get. If a hospital grade pump is not possible, then I would suggest get the best 'personal use' double sided electric pump you can afford. The three brands I see mentioned by moms the most are made by Medela, Hygeia and Ameda. There are many pumps that do not have a good reputation but are cheaper. be careful about very inexpensive pumps. Try to get a NEW pump. Do not spend lots on a used pump, especially if you do not personally know the previous user or if you know the pump was used regularly for 6 months or more. Pumps wear out, and this can greatly hinder performance without making the pump actually stop working. If you are given a used pump, or decide to buy one one you feel confident in, please remember you will need to have to get new tubing, new membranes, correctly sized flanges, and be sure to check the pump carefully or even get it tested if you can. Hand express into a bowl maybe? it is really hard to do it into a bottle.
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  • @llli*ramom's Avatar
    Today, 05:05 PM
    Thanks everyone. I really appreciate the thoughts. It's difficult to explain to people in my family and I don't have anyone else to talk to about it, so I appreciate the chance to discuss it here. The ped said the dark urine is due to not enough milk. I don't know the explanation for her weird behavior with the bottle but I'm realizing it's not because she's not hungry, just some inexplicable baby behavior. (She's very active/wiggly so her movements that look to us like avoidance might not really mean that). We talked to a couple different LCs and I've also been to the LLL meeting, they were nice but weren't able to suggest anything beyond what's been suggested here. I think the problem *could* be solved if I didn't have to go back to work and send her to daycare, so I hope that other people reading my thread don't get discouraged if that's the situation they're in.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 03:03 PM
    For bringing in a normal milk supply a double electric hospital grade pump is what I would recommend. I don't know what the models of the hospital grade pumps are for all the brands but I know the Medela Symphony is a hospital grade pump. Those are generally really expensive so most people only rent them for a limited time 3-6 months. Once your supply is better established there are many pumps that would probably work, Might help to find out what types of Hospital pumps are available so you know what sort of kit you would need to work with it and also find out if your insurance covers any double electric breast pumps so you can maybe pick and choose pumps that the breast shields and parts will work with (since the pumping kit you have to buy to use with the hospital pump may also have parts that will work with the consumer grade high quality pumps of the same brand.) If you can't get a Hospital Grade pump, you might manage to do ok with a pump like a Medela Advanced double electric pump or the Pump in Style advanced. Hopefully people with experience with the other brands can chime in about which pump models might be up to the task. You want to look for a pump that allows you to adjust the tempo or speed of pump strokes as well as the strength of the suction. A hands free pumping bra or an extra bra of your own that you can cut holes in to make a hands free bra to use so that you can pump and massage/compress while pumping to get more milk out.
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  • @llli*h.rosalyn's Avatar
    Today, 02:45 PM
    He nurses for 2 hours continously and wants more. That's why i think i have low milk supply. Yes, he get supplements for half daily intake. Tried hand expression but havent mastered it yet, milk doesn't get into the bottle. Can you name any recommended pump? I will try to find consultant nearby and get her advise.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 02:11 PM
    Ok we made it through till about 5 am this morning before the wake up wanting to play. Part of it is DS just likes to hang out with Daddy some I guess.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 02:07 PM
    Perhaps try to be just a bit more gentle with the stretches. Have you tried using highlands teething gel on your fingers while you do the stretches? My LO got his done by laser. And he was always really distressed for the stretches but the swelling and pain immediately following the procedure seemed to last only a day or so. Truth is I think he was mostly screaming about having things done to him without his consent. During the procedure I think most of the screaming was about being pinned down so he couldn't move and the actual pain was secondary.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 02:02 PM
    I've found that my little guy (now over 7 months) still doesn't take big meals and my storage capacity isn't big either so that means we are nursing very frequently during the day and at least several times at night. Not all babies drink more and more at a feeding. I wasn't able to do the nursing so frequently while I was also trying to supplement and pump but even then I generally couldn't get him to take much more than 2-2.8 oz max at a feeding and many feedings were only 1-1.7 oz. It wasn't until I had managed to increase my supply and basically decided to quit pumping and just try to nurse about every hour during the day that he started really gaining weight faster. That is great that she is latching better and hopefully that trend continues to improve. Being able to nurse without the shield should help her get more milk quicker without tiring out as fast as well as helping your supply AND just being easier in general. a side note, did you ever try taping the SNS tube in place and then latching baby with the tube in place? (I realize this may not work for everyone) I noticed my LO didn't like my trying to slip the tube in after he was latched and when I did that he would often unlatch and fuss so I normally had the tube taped in place (a pain in and of itself since my skin reacted to even the hypoallergenic tape for sensitive skin.)
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  • @llli*witkom's Avatar
    Today, 01:15 PM
    Yes, it appears to only be painful during the stretches. It was done by laser not scissors.
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  • @llli*zaynethepain's Avatar
    Today, 01:14 PM
    http://kellymom.com/health/growth/weight-gain_increase/ If weight gain is the issue, you can discuss the weight increasing strategies in this article with your doctor.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 01:12 PM
    Yes there is. IF you wished, YOU can feed your baby with a paced feeding method when you are with your baby. Also, you can educate your day care about this feeding methods. I am not going to get into it all here but the traditional feeding methods of huge bottles spaced very widely (time wise) and over which baby has no control of the flow because they are laying almost flat and the milk just won't stop coming are potentially harmful. There is nothing more difficult about 'doing' paced bottle feeding, it is just people often do not know about it or know how to do it. I wonder if it is possible that your feelings about weaning/no longer trying to nurse are combining with the often difficult and conflicting feelings about the daily separation from your child due to work and causing you to feel helpless about all feeding choices, or even other parenting choices? You are not helpless, you are and always will be your baby's mother, the person who knows what it best for your baby, and the person whose job it is to make sure others are also doing what is best for your baby- whatever you believe that to be. I am not saying your baby must be paced bottle fed and/or cue fed, many, probably most, bottle fed babies are not, although the thinking about this IS changing. Fine. But IF that is something you want to look at, why not? I am just encouraging you to do whatever will help you feel more empowered about your rights as your child's mother in general.
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  • @llli*cutiemark85's Avatar
    Today, 12:06 PM
    I'm hoping so. So, yesterday the LC returned my call. She thinks it's a growth spurt that happened. Since my LO is playing catch up and everything still. Today we spoke to our regular LC and she also agreed it was a growth spurt. LO also Lost an Ounce so she was 7.6. She ate, and then was weighed again and weighed at 7ilb 7.9oz. So no, I'm presently not making enough milk. That being said, because she was so use to taking so little then tiring out so soon, lo isn't really getting the idea that she can take more than what she's use to. So that could affect how much milk I am producing. but it's actually a relief to know what's going on, and have a better idea on how to make it better. My LC changed my game plan a little. Instead of swapping between formula and breast milk when giving her the bottle ( btw. she tried the sns tube deal. and just as I had told her, my LO spits out the entire breast and *stops* eating when that tube is inserted, she got to see it first hand, so she recommended the bottle) stick with breast milk, then give her formula if she's still hungry. So our feeding plan is:
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  • @llli*filmmommy's Avatar
    Today, 11:37 AM
    I just read through your past posts (sorry, should have reviewed them more closely before responding the first time). Have you had any in-person help beyond your LC? Maybe another LC, a LLL group, something of that nature?
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  • @llli*filmmommy's Avatar
    Today, 11:27 AM
    Lots of people exclusively pump for the duration of their breastfeeding relationship. If you are consistent and methodical, you may have sufficient supply to feed your baby. My friend did it -- I was in awe of how much she told me how many ounces she used to pump in only two sessions at work, while it took me three to get half of what she would get. In fact, since her baby was a about 2 years older than my first, I really thought EPing would be the easy way to go and figured I'd do the same. But I'm glad I ended up nursing -- I would not have survived EPing unless it was my only choice. You seem to feel that's where you are now. I think it's harder to motivate yourself to pump than it is to nurse, though, so try to find something you like to do while pumping (I like listening to comedy podcasts or watching TV). Just make sure you have a good pump, keep up with the parts maintenance, and pump as much as you possibly can. I pump in the car on my commute to work and then three times a day at work. You need to aim for 8-12 sessions a day, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 11:20 AM
    I can't offer any better advice. Feeling devastated or even mourning the loss would be completely natural. If baby will still latch and nurse at all, then no need to quit those nursing sessions but don't stress yourself about them. Has baby been checked out medically to make sure there is no medical reason causing the dark urine and baby's attempted refusal to even take bottles?
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  • @llli*ramom's Avatar
    Today, 11:18 AM
    Thanks for the thoughts. She's starting daycare next week and they won't do paced bottle feeding (we didn't have a lot of choice in daycare but even if we did I wouldn't have known to ask about this.) So there's really not much I can do, so I really need to move on at this point. The baby doesn't want to nurse any more, and it's causing too much anguish, distraction, and lost sleep for us to keep trying.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 11:14 AM
    I've seen the flung out arm behavior with my son, I actually prefer that to having my other nipple pinched. Lately he has taken to also flailing a leg about (he is getting even more acrobatic now at 7+ months, I sometimes get toes in my face instead of fingers.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 10:55 AM
    I will also say read those two books, they should help you view letting baby experience foods in a broader light. Yes there will be some mess but there are measures you can take to minimize the problems of mess. At the Interested in and grabbing for food stage, baby doesn't yet understand that it's food but they are ready to start learning about it. Babies that are too young to deal with solids probably won't manage to eat much as long as they are in control of what gets into their mouth. Breastfeed as much as before and offer to nurse before and after solid meals and weaning isn't likely to happen for a good long time. Most babies don't even reduce the amount they nurse till sometime after 9 months or beyond.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:51 AM
    So your baby's overall gain, from birth to 4 months, is about 8 pounds? This sounds like textbook normal, healthy gain to me. I really think you want to clarify with your doctor what the concern is. If there is any reason baby might not be getting enough milk, that is the issue to address...baby not nursing as often, regular long sleep stretch, use of hormonal birth control, overuse of pacifier...those are things that might cause baby to not get enough.
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  • @llli*krystine's Avatar
    Today, 10:45 AM
    Late to this but just wanted to say I did nurse with a lactation aid (not a commercial one but homemade with a premature infant feeding tube stuck into a bottle). I just had the attitude that I"d use it as an opportunity to educate anyone who asked about why I had to supplement and how happy I was I didn't have to use bottles and reduce risk of babies rejecting the breast. My situation was needing to give my twins a few oz of donor milk a day and I was asked a few times and just tried to not be defensive but actually welcome questions. It all worked out.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 10:45 AM
    yep, if pain is still that bad 72 hours later do contact them. That said, My LO hated and screamed about the stretches for over a week. Is the pain only during the stretches?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:43 AM
    Have you tried other nursing positions? Cradle often becomes too confining as baby lengthens. What about sidelying? (This is great at night too) Or laid back positioning, which lets you and baby get comfy in any number of positions. Positioning differently may help the flailing arm. It is entirely normal at this age for a baby to wake frequently and prefer to nurse to settle. Nursing is usually the easiest way to settle baby so NOT nursing her at night is kind of denying yourself the benefits of you own super power. Is there some reason you are wishing to not nurse baby to sleep? As far as it frustrating your husband- Baby wants to nurse, and he can't nurse her, so of course she is not settling for him. The day will come when all she wants is her daddy, and you may feel like chopped liver, (or enjoy the freedom of the hand off) but it's not going to be when she is 6 months old and wanting to nurse, especially not in the middle of the night. That said, something that worked well for us particularly in fussy evenings was that I would nurse and if baby was still not asleep, I would hand baby to my husband and he would walk baby down in a sling. At night, I have always found bedsharing works best for getting a tad more sleep. As far as baby not wanting to hold/play with your hand, as far as I know that is entirely normal. What is your concern about that?
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 10:41 AM
    Starting babies on solids before 6 months is outdated information. If there are supply and weight issues there are better choices than cereal and if not weight and supply related then it isn't really medical advice.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:20 AM
    You are confident you have done what you could, and that this is the best decision for you family. So if you are still feeling devastated by a decision you believe in, perhaps it is the way you are looking at your decision that is the problem. But you are not giving up breastfeeding. Your plan, if I understand it, is to pump and give your baby your expressed milk in a bottle and to supplement with formula as needed. This is still breastfeeding, as some of your child's food comes from the breast. You do not know when or even if pumping will become totally unsustainable, but if/when it does, you can deal with that then. Your child is 3 months old, and, assuming she shows signs of readiness, can start being introduced to solids in two or three months. So the time of exclusive nursing is limited anyway. I am not asking anything, I did review your threads. but I will also say that if you ever wish to nurse or your baby does, ever, wish to nurse, there is no reason to not do that. I mean, if you are mourning the loss of nursing at the breast, it might help to understand that things need not be all or nothing. If you wish and if circumstances allow, you may nurse again- whether it be one time or more. Please understand I am not saying DO that, you are ready to stop trying to nurse at the breast, and I am not questioning that. I am saying that just because you have made the decision to stop nursing at the breast need not mean there is some rule that you must never ever...
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  • @llli*bib81's Avatar
    Today, 09:49 AM
    Hi Everyone, FTM here and feeling quite paranoid. I have been exclusively breastfeeding my six month old. For the last couple months when she breastfeeds (I use cradle hold only) she throws her free arm either straight along her side or wings it behind her. She doesn't even like to hold my hand or play with my hand, if I try she always just pulls it away. Has anyone else experienced this? Another thing that is bothering me is that when she wakes in the night the only thing that settles her is breastfeeding. I really don't mind this as often she is hungry, but sometimes she isn't hungry and it's still the only thing that calms her. I try to rock her but she hates being rocked and actually cries harder. This really frustrates my husband because he can't calm her at all. Is this normal behaviour that she will grow out of? Sorry if I sound overly paranoid, and thanks for listening!
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  • @llli*2coatskids's Avatar
    Today, 09:44 AM
    Now I'm starting to get worried. My ped isn't really much help. My DDs last two poops have been very very thick mucus. The pleasant smell is gone and now it smells acidic. I tried to attach a picture but not sure it will work. I called a pediatric gastro and made an appt. I know poop consistency changes, but this is a thick blob. Worried....
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