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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Today, 01:18 PM
    I will miss you maddieb. I thought I would thank you after breastfeeding my son for 1.5 or 2 years and send you a message that you helped me through it. but since the forum is closing I think I have to say this, Thank you. I will never forget your help. Djs.Mom Thanks for you too.
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Today, 12:27 PM
    OMG . I don't know what to say. I really cried. This forum has helped me a lot., wihtout this I might go crazy, there is never been a single day without seeing this forum. I have no words to say except my tears.
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Today, 12:23 PM
    Thanks Maddieb. I can totally understand. He is not dehydrated. My only concern is he getting enough. he sleeps long streches during day time say for 3-4 hours when I had little bit of oversupply. Now the supply has either reduced or matched to his need(I am not sure). Now he wakes up even more during the night to feed (start of the sleep when my supply is lowest) he goes to bed by 9:30 after cluster nursing and he wakes up again at 11-12am, then again in 1.5 -2 hours, and then he starts to take little more long strech say 2-3 hours. He is nursing more than 12 times per day. Is that normal? But he doesn't seem crying or unhappy after every session. may get little fussy if the let down is slow. Is it possible that he is not getting enough either one of the night time sessions? I know I am part of the reason for this night waking since I was encouraging him yo nurse often during the night. One of my friend she has a 4 month old and she says her baby diapers are huge and heavy in the morning, its never been like that for me since I returned to work. I am so confused and worried over this again and again. and I am sorry for posting so much and troubling you.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 11:17 AM
    I am posting this here in the Breastfeeding Your Baby section, because this is the forum I have posted in the most. I will never forget my early days struggling to breastfeed my first baby, and so have always felt an urgency to help when moms have posted here in particular. With the forums closing in just a few days, I trust no one will mind! 14 years ago I made my first call to a La Leche League Leader. My first baby was 7 months old, and all my mommy friends with children the same age had stopped breastfeeding. My son and I had had so many struggles and breastfeeding was finally starting to feel natural and comfortable and…dare I say it? Easy. The last thing I wanted to do was stop, but because all my friends had stopped, I thought I was doing something wrong. The wise Leader I called (she later became my mentor when I became a LLL Leader) listened to my fears, and then she simply invited me to a LLL meeting. She joked later that it was the easiest help call she had ever received. For me, that short phone call was life changing. The mothers I have since met at LLL meetings, Leader events and LLL conferences gave me every tool that I have found important and helpful as a mother. Every mom I view as a mothering mentor to this day was part of La Leche League at one time or another. I started posting to these forums about 7 years ago. At first I did not post much, but eventually barely a day passed without me visiting the forums- some days, several times. I...
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:18 PM
    After more than 10 years and 1.6 million posts, we’re sad to announce that the LLLI Mother-to-Mother Forums will be permanently closed on Monday, November 20, 2017, as the LLLI website is moved over to a new platform. We’ll be opening a new LLLI Breastfeeding Support Community on Inspire.com, a health-related online communities website. While smaller in scale than the Mother-to-Mother Forums, the new community will be similar in organization and function, and you’ll have even more control over your privacy. If you’re on Facebook, the LLLI Breastfeeding Support Facebook Group is an extremely active (25,000 members and over 1,000 new posts per month) private group, with LLL Leader moderators who screen and respond to every new breastfeeding question. Many local LLL Groups all over the world have their own Facebook groups as well. A huge thank you to all our members who’ve made this such a supportive community and helped so many mothers over the last 11 years. :love
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:17 PM
    Lining baby up so babies nose is to nipple to start is a good first step. This makes it so baby can tilt head back, opening up the throat. Baby may need to adjust how open he is. Try snuggling baby into you firmly by pulling on baby's Bottom. If you think about it geometrically, this brings baby into you nice and snug and firm, but the alignment (Butt in, so head is tilted very slightly out) keeps baby's nose clear. Also, some moms find they need to gently push or pull gently on their breast tissue to clear an area for baby's nose. Remember that a nose shape typically allows for air flow from the sides of the nostrils, so a nose tip may look buried to you but baby has plenty of air. Maybe try letting baby/encourage baby to knead your breast with his hands? He may be trying to control flow all with his head. he can do some of this with his hands. But generally, baby smushing his head into the breast is normal nursing behavior. I mean, it is common. If it is causing a problem, usually mom adjusts herself of baby until they stop. Lots of this adjusting is pretty much unconscious.
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  • @llli*djs.mom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:24 AM
    I don't think you ever add those things to jarred baby food. If you are at the point where your baby is taking solids, you can do things like feed avacado slices, yogurt and cheese or cook your table food that you are feeding in coconut oil if you want to add fat. I think the age rec for dairy (Other than Milk itself which should not be fed until after the year point) was at least 9months old.
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  • @llli*djs.mom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:18 AM
    It sounds to me like you are doing the things we usually reccomend to increase supply. So my question is-how long ago did you add in the two pumping sessions and how much longer are you pumping for? Did you have a surplus before that was getting frozen? Are you still meeting her daily needs or do you need to supplement?
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  • @llli*tonica.mom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:53 AM
    Tucked chin (nose in the breast, chin away from the breast). I wonder is this his way of blocking milk flow because it seems that no matter how much I try, I can't get him to extend his head and "open" his throat. And many moms with babies with LM said it helps when their throat is open, including bottlefed and breastfed babies. I noticed too with bottle how he can suck nicely when he extends his head. I noticed in first few days after birth that he has tendecy to be "above" the breast. But I just tried to pull him down a bit, and I was happy when my nipple was in middle of him mouth since we had no problem of milk transfer during first two months. But gradually, especially as he was getting more and more mobile, he was pushing himself more and more above breast. And doing some strange twist with his head toward pillow before latching. Even when I did get him down, he would grab a nipple and then pull his head down again. Also, sometimes he is pushing his head in my breast. Like he is trying to get in deeper. Although, there are times when he, by himself and when asleep, extends his head, usually after let down reflex. We use side-lying during sleep. When awake he is not happy in this position. I feel that he is not happy with his nose being blocked by my breast tissue, especially since he is always breathing quickly. He looks uncomfortable and like he is having hard times organizing himself. Yesterday he was lightly suckling during sleep, and suddenly he started to gasp...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 11:08 PM
    Can you provide more information? How much were you pumping before (per day and per session) and how much are you pumping now? How much does your child drink during your work days? Is she eating any solids yet? Pump output does tend to reduce around this age. This does not always mean that overall production is lower or, even if it is, that it is "too low." Kellymom.com has two excellent articles I suggest- one on low milk production and one on low pump output. If you have not already, I suggest check those out.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 11:00 PM
    Can a baby sleep through hunger? Yes. A baby who is not getting enough to eat overall to the extent that you could say baby was actually starving, a baby who is dehydrated and losing weight? Yes, that baby would likely shut down and sleep a lot in order to save energy. I very much doubt this is your baby. If a baby is encouraged to sleep unnaturally long hours with sleep lengthening techniques such as sleep training or meal scheduling, pacifier use, swaddling or baby sleeping remotely from mom, that baby may not cue normally. This is usually more of a risk in the very early months and less of a risk at this point, but it could still have an impact. But again, this does not sound like your situation. However there is no harm in gently encouraging baby to nurse more often if you think that is needed. This is one intervention that never hurts and could help if baby really is not getting quite enough to eat. But I am just not even sure that is the case.
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 07:12 PM
    Thank you Maddieb. He was pooping once in two days, but after seeing this huge poop today I really doubt he will poop anytime soon. can a baby sleep through hunger? or play around since he is so distracted now? I am confused and I am driving myself crazy over this breastfeeding.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 06:35 PM
    How long had it been since the previous poop? That is normal consistency if it has been a while since baby last pooped. This consistency would not have anything to do with hind v. foremilk, both of those milks are almost entirely water - they are just not different in that respect. Many babies start peeing less often around this age, and do not pee longer at night. It is the beginning of control. Weight gain for a newborn (once baby stops loosing and starts gaining) is average 6-8 ounces a week, or about 1.5- 2 pounds a month. After two or three months of age, gain starts to slow, with gain in the neighborhood of 4-5 ounces per week or 1-1.5 pounds a month being the average. Of course not all babies gain the same, these are averages. If baby was a slower gainer to begin with, they may continue to be slower than average and it is entirely normal. But gain rate certainly normally starts slowing by about 3 months and continues to slow. If you are experiencing a healthy, happy, normally developing baby whose weight gain is a little slow, and your baby's pediatrician suggests baby needs solids including liquefied cereal to gain better, I would suggest get a second opinion. The current recommendation is exclusive breastfeeding until about 6 months. If a baby is not getting enough, optimizing breastfeeding would be the first intervention to be recommended with formula supplements being the second if the former intervention fails. But first you have to have a doctor...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 06:19 PM
    I am happy to offer tips about side lying based on my own experience and that of other mothers I have helped over the years. I do not think there is research specifically about side-lying as there is with laid back- but like laid back, sidelying is definitely a position mothers and babies/nursing children have used for time immemorial as it is so clearly a comfortable and natural position for both mom and baby, and in fact only gets more natural and comfortable the older the child is. It would help to know what you are currently doing now as far as side-lying goes, and what about side-lying is not working for you. I do not know.
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 10:42 AM
    Hi Baby is going to be 4 month in 8 days, I am very sure there is a drop in supply due to pumping at work. I somehow managed to get one month off from work, so that I can nurse him. My supply has dropped really well, I am very sure about that. he pretty much nurse every 2-3 hours. and only one side, if he goes to comfort nursing he will wait for at least 3 let downs but not take other breast :mad:(I just don't understand why).He nurses 12 times a day and cluster nurse for 1 -1.5 hour and may take 3.5-4 hour strech at night. then one 3 hour and wake up around 6 or so and take a good nap until 9:45 am to 10 AM. (If he is hungry Can he sleep like this?) He had big thick yellow poop, I have never seen this consistency earlier. Is it because of less milk and he is getting too much hind milk , Is it so? His poops are usually runny, brown, yellow earlier. His wet diapers have reduced, but its still clear urine, he doesn't pee overnight even if he is taking a feed, he has to be completely awake to pee. if he pees in the morning its slight more yellow than usual, and the diaper is not sloppy wet. but decently wet(upto half of blue indicator). My biggest question is if a baby is hungry can he sleep or play through it? because if he is satisfied with the milk why isn't he gaining? He was 12 pounds 13 ounces at his 2 months check up Now he is 14 pounds 15 ounces as of today. (lost 3 to 4 ounces after a huge poop) As suggested by kelley mom doesn't he need to gain at least...
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  • @llli*virginiamom14's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 10:08 AM
    Hello everyone, I have an eight month old daughter and a 3 year old son. I successfully nursed my son for a little over a year and I was hoping to do the same for my daughter. I am working full time so I am pumping for her. Over the last few weeks what I pump has dropped by a few ounces and today seems even worse. I have added in two extra pumping sessions per day and started pumping for longer. I have also tried power pumping. So far nothing has increased my supply and if anything, it has dropped. I have tried feeding my daughter more but she gets easily distracted by her older brother who she finds to be the most fascinating person in the world. I even try taking her to another floor of the house away from him but I swear, if she thinks she can hear him, she loses interest in nursing, pushes away from me and wants to go play with him. Overall she seems a little different at nursing than my son. He really seemed to need nursing to calm down whereas she is far less interested in it. :( I am sure that is not helping my supply.
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  • @llli*tonica.mom's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 08:32 AM
    Do you have any hints/tricks for side-lying position? How to make best of it, in terms that baby feels good and supported? Some facts like you had for laid back position and research that was done for prone/supine positioning during breastfeeding... I found that kind of info not only interesting, but also helpful for understanding of my baby. Maybe I am missing something on this side-lying. Is lack of suck-swallow -breathe coordination inherent only to babies with some health problems (like our case)? Or other babies have this issues too? He is really having hard times with that coordination. Sometimes even during sleep.
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  • @llli*tonica.mom's Avatar
    November 15th, 2017, 06:08 AM
    I wonder when did you start to add fat and oil to baby food, such as olive oil and butter? I couldn't find any official recommendation on this topic (on internet).
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 14th, 2017, 05:48 PM
    Ok so your baby is pooping and peeing a normal amount (many babies this age do not poop daily.) What you are experiencing with how your breasts feel and baby is behaving sounds very typical for four months. There is even a term for it- The four month fussies. Many moms think they do not make enough milk at this age due to the normal changes in the breasts that occur when milk production regulates to enough, rather than too much. I suggest read the kellymom article on Low milk production - the first part. if you are still worried, please get back to me, also of course you might want to talk to your LC about your concerns. It is possible you went off the dom too fast or too early.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 14th, 2017, 05:43 PM
    Hi again, I am so sorry you are feeling so very frustrated. Honestly, I cannot tell you why your baby has these issues beyond what we have already discussed. But I do think you are perhaps tending to focus on the negative a bit? For example, saying baby can't nurse when baby can nurse, or saying baby cannot nurse "nicely" when there is not really any such thing...in other words many babies nurse in ways that would not be described as "nicely" but they are doing fine. Having a million questions, being tense over nursing, worrying a lot- all this is very, very common when there have been serious breastfeeding issues of any kind. So I understand that it can be hard to be happy about very small, gradual improvements or to have perspective when there are steps backward. But the fact is, that is how progress usually comes- slowly and with steps back. I could certainly be wrong, but I am getting the feeling that others in your life are pressuring you to "accept this situation and move on." Meaning, they are telling you to stop nursing. Certainly, you have "accepted" your baby and are meeting his needs at either breast or bottle as you are finding necessary, so to me that would be mean you are "accepting" the situation. As I have tried to say before, your value as a mother is not in any way measured by when you stopped nursing your child. I promise you that! Your baby will love you just as much and will be the person they are going to be whether you nurse further or...
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  • @llli*tonica.mom's Avatar
    November 14th, 2017, 05:35 AM
    Maddieb, I gave him 2 oz of formula today. He again started to refuse to nurse. I just don't know what to do anymore. Why is this happening to me? I asked for help from so many people....why no one can't help. I just don't understand why he can't nurse... So many questions in my head and no answers. Why I just can not accept this situation and move on. I really tought as he grows things will improve. But they are not.
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