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  • @llli*puja's Avatar
    Today, 01:56 AM
    My lo is 18 week now...weight 7 kg height 64 cm I m exclusively breastfeeding him and he is growing well I think...I have not yet introduced bottle to him. .but now from next month I ll have to join my office ...so want your opinion that when should I start and how many times should I give him bottle so he could become use to it...one week before I have tried to give him bottle but he was not sucking just was playing with the nipple( for about 4 days once In the evening I tried so...)another thing I want ti know is that when should I start giving him formula because its not possible for me to express milk at work(I have explained earlier)...at home I want to nurse him but those 8 hours working hour milk will go waste in sink ..at home how much will I be able to express by hand(cant use pump as have said before) would it meet his 8 hours need so I think formula though very unwillingly I ll have to introduce ...
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  • @llli*diripouf's Avatar
    Today, 01:26 AM
    Thank you so much for your reply - and for the tips about weaning. Yes your assumptions are right - LO is also getting what I pump. Per day, I give her 3 formula top-ups (of 60 mL / 2 oz each) and one of my breast milk which is usually a little smaller (40-50mL max). Unfortunately I can only pump that much per 24 hours… But the midwife said not to worry too much about that. The point of the pumping is to signal to my breasts that more milk is needed - and when they produce more, she will drink it rather than me seeing it in the pumping output. The midwife said her rather big weight gain last week was normal as she was "catching up". She will be weighed again on Monday, and if she's still putting on above average I will start weaning her as I really do not want to continue the top-ups beyond what is absolutely necessary for her health. I was a skinny baby too so I'm not expecting her to be super chubby... She only starts to become fussy and distracted on the breast after 8/10min - could it be that the fattier milk is more difficult to suck for her and she's getting lazy as she has been experiencing the teat? I'm being careful in how I bottle-feed her, I use peristaltic teats as I've been told that LOs needed to suck harder with them…. It's hard for me to get to a LLL meeting as I live far from the meeting place but I will keep this in mind if I struggle - thank you!!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 01:19 AM
    hi, I am typing one handed so please excuse typos. I don't think anyone can give you 'odds', there are just too many variables. Yes it is usually harder to relactate to a "full" milk production if milk production was not established during the first 4-8 weeks post partum. But you did give birth to your baby, which gives you a better chance of making more milk than an adoptive mother who is attempting to induce lactation, for example. So the 'should you give up' question is also unanswerable by anyone but yourself. Mothers have both relactated and induced lactation to the point they nurse their babies. Even if supplements are needed, there can be a nursing relationship, so the goal need not be 'exclusive' nursing. Here is what I see-you are producing 1/2 to one ounce per pump session- That's lactating, so something is working. And this is happening even with simply not enough milk removal. Here is how you tell the body to make milk. By expressing milk (or having baby nurse) the same amount of times a healthy, growing baby would nurse. That means at least 8 times in 24 hours. Anything less than that is simply not going to increase milk production in any meaningful way, because the body is not getting the message to make more milk- no baby nurses 4 times a day. All the galactagogues, water, and healthy eating in the world will not make a difference if milk is not removed with normal frequency. So pumping more than 4 times a day is not "extra" - it is necessary for...
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  • @llli*anyi.cas's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:43 PM
    Yes, I am desperate and may even be a bit depressed. This is my story…I am currently 8 weeks post-partum. It was my goal to exclusively breastfeed my baby but it never happened. While at the hospital, I did put the baby at the breast several times and even used the hospital pump. I was only getting a few drops of milk. On the 2nd day of being at the hospital, I ended up giving the baby formula. Once at home, I continued in my attempt to breastfeed but with no luck. A few more drops of milk was coming in, but not enough. The baby did latch, but even after putting him 7 minutes at each breast, he was not satisfied. He cried, slept and woke up hungry again. Although he continues on formula, I occasionally put him on the breast for his comfort, to help get rid of his hic-ups, and because I just refuse to completely give up. After educating myself a bit more, I made a plan to make the breastfeeding happen. I rented a hospital grade pump. I have been pumping at least 4 times a day for almost 3 weeks now, I am drinking lots of water, eating oatmeal, drinking lactation smoothies. But, despite all of these changes, nothing seems to work. I may get a few drops from the left breast and between ½ to 1 ounce from the right breast. I know that I should be pumping at least 8 times in a day, but since I really don’t see any improvement, I wonder if the extra pumping sessions are worthwhile! I started taking fenugreek yesterday, but I just “feel” that it will not work. Since a milk...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:27 PM
    Some things that may help with night-weaning: - Nurse more during the day; more calories taken in by day may mean less need for them at night. - Communicate. "Now is sleep time. We will nurse again in the morning" is a time-honored way of putting it. You LO is very young to grasp the concept, but keep communicating it and it will eventually sink in. - Have someone else take on the nighttime parenting. Babies typically ask to nurse only when mom is present. - Keep a sippy cup/ bottle of water available for nighttime wake-ups. Night-waking toddlers are often genuinely thirsty. One thing that I think you may want to accept is that weaning doesn't mean the end of nighttime parenting. Weaned babies wake at night just like nursing babies do. The only difference is that it's generally easy to get a nursing baby back to sleep- nurse them and they're asleep, right? Whereas getting a weaned baby to sleep typically requires more interaction and creative problem-solving. So you might want to think about whether or not weaning would really help you get more sleep! -
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:19 PM
    Welcome to the forum! The first thing I have to say is that I'm extremely flummoxed by the advice you got from the "consultants". Were these people medical professionals? If so, what kind? The reason I find their advice so suspicious is that breastfeeding doesn't make babies unwilling to eat solids, nor does it make them deficient in iron, folic acid, Vit. D, or IgA. In fact, breastmilk is a significant source of IgA; see this article from American Scientist: http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/pub/why-we-develop-food-allergies/1. It reads, in part: "New babies, however, produce little or no SIgA. They depend on other types of antibodies during the first vulnerable months of life, primarily residual IgG from the mother and small amounts of mucosal IgM. The only significant source of SIgA antibodies during this period is breast milk, which helps protect the newborn until her immune system is established. In developed countries, the child's ability to produce SIgA is quite variable, being completed between one and ten years of age. Babies in developing countries often establish secretory immunity much earlier, presumably because of greater exposure to stimulating microbes." Breastmilk does not have huge amounts of iron or Vit. D, it is true- but those issues are generally easy to solve with a daily multivitamin, or daily iron supplement plus plenty of sunshine (Vitamin D is made in your skin when it is exposed to sunlight). Okay, so all that being said,...
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:46 PM
    Great suggestions above, but just wanted to add that I am exactly where you are right now, only with my 11 month old! She was nursing to sleep, nursing through naps (sometimes 2-3 hrs!), and waking every 1-2 hours at night. I am not pregnant (I've checked multiple times lol), but not only do I have some nursing aversion feelings, but when I nurse her for any extended period, I get incredibly nauseated. I always have pain when nursing, too. I finally decided something had to change or we would be headed towards completely weaning way too early. I am using Elizabeth Pantley's No-Cry Sleep Solutions chapter on the nursing sleep association to try to get baby to sleep on her own for naps and longer stretches at night without relying on nursing to fall asleep/get through multiple sleep cycles (that's our main area of struggle) - and it's working. It's NOT easy, in fact the night before last I was in tears, ready to give up completely, but last night she wouldn't even nurse to sleep for bed; wanted my husband to walk and sing to her (that's usually our nightly routine before she nurses to sleep), and then he laid her down in bed and she slept for 4 hours straight. First time in MONTHS. Then today I was able to lay her down for her nap (again using Pantley's method) and she slept 2 hours where before she would always wake or start to stir 30-45 mins into her nap. It might be worth checking into for you. I think it is harder when you're the only one doing the nighttime parenting,...
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:32 PM
    My nipples always hurt excruciatingly when I have plugs; in fact, that's usually what first clues me in that I have a plug, not finding the hard spot! And yes, my whole breast usually feels bruised after its cleared, even if I wasn't very aggressive in getting rid of it. Was the original plugged area there behind the nipple? Sometimes I'll have a really bad plug that actually is a line of hard lumps stretching all along a duct from almost at my armpit down to my nipple, and it can take a while for all of those lumps to go away - maybe you had something similar and have cleared most of it, but there's still a bit left. I would be very careful, especially since you are sick already, to take it easy to avoid mastitis. As MaddieB suggested, I might consider seeing a doctor if it continues too much longer, just to make sure nothing else is going on.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:58 PM
    Kellymom has an article on weaning off formula supplements. Unfortunately it is all too common for a mom to be told to supplement baby and sent on her way, and this usually results in early weaning. So it is great you are ready to get proactive about weaning baby off the supplements. If my conversions are correct, baby gained well above average in the last week, and is getting about 8 ounces or 240 mL of formula per day. Typical intake for a normally gaining one month old is about 25 ounces total per day (Some gain fine on much less, some need more, this is an average.) So 8 ounces is not all that much, but is certainly too much to drop supplements suddenly. How much expressed milk are you getting from pumping each day, and is baby also getting what you pump? This would mean the weaning off supplements process may take longer. When weaning off supplements, wean off formula first and then the expressed milk. You will want to keep pumping for as long as baby is taking supplements but once you have dropped entirely or greatly reduced the formula supplements, you can probably start safely reducing how often and how long you pump. While weaning, be sure baby is being fed supplements in a breastfeeding supportive way. Cup feeing, spoon feeding, or very careful, paced bottle feeding with correct positioning, to avoid over feeding. If for some reason it looks like you will need to supplement for much longer, it probably makes sense to consider an at the breast supplementer...
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  • @llli*rosieg's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:48 PM
    Hi, I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place. Apologies in advance as its a long one, so here goes... I need help regarding my 19 month old and sleep. He's always been a boobie baby, much preferring to nurse than eat and it wouldn't have been an unusual thing to have nursed 8+ times per day. We were advised by his consultants to stop breastfeeding completely and up his food intake as he was/ is deficient in iron, folic acid, vitamin D and also igA. We managed to stop feeding completely in the day and his eating has become so much better now, however night time is a completely different story. He has his feed to get him to sleep at around 9 and will then sleep until about 12 and that a when the "fun" begins. A good night consists of him thrashing around all night, waking up every 45mins and being latched on at least 90% of the night. A bad night starts the same with the tossing and turning, being latched on until 2am when he's wide awake running between our room and our 4 year olds room.Usually by about 2.15am I take him downstairs to prevent my husband or my eldest waking up. We can be up between 2 and 4 hours when he eventually falls back to sleep. He's not yet slept an entire night and on average he's getting between 6 and 8 hours most nights of broken sleep. As he only has one nap of two hours just after lunch, I don't know where I am going so very wrong. I no longer wish to breastfeed because physically and mentally I am exhausted, there doesn't seem to...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:41 PM
    Sometimes it just takes time, from what you describe it sounds like there may be a very painful but small plug right behind the nipple? If this continues I am wondering if you want to see your doctor just to rule out any other potential issues. In my personal experience with plugs, sometimes all the efforts to clear the plug cause deep bruising that can make nursing painful for a few days.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:30 PM
    Is the overwhelming annoyance with the nursing sensation something new? Some moms feel this way- it is sometimes called nursing aversion- when they are pregnant or there is some other hormonal change going on- ovulating or menstruating, for example. Have you discussed your child's sleep difficulties with her pediatrician? Some times sleep disturbance has a physical cause. Allergies, for example. These can be food or environmental. There are a couple things to think about in a situation like this, because moms can feel very conflicted about nursing for many reasons, and when a mom feels conflicted, it can greatly increase/create resentment of the nursing child or the nursing relationship. Are you (or anyone else) concerned that your child nurses more than is normal? (or should not be nursing at this age?) Do you think or have you been told that you are somehow doing something wrong by nursing your child? Do you think or have you been told that you have "created" a problem? While the sleep does sound unusually disrupted, it is very typical for a 17 month old to nurse a great deal- even more than they did previously. And nursing a child does not "cause" a child to sleep badly or need to nurse more.
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  • @llli*bugsmomma1013's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:45 PM
    My daughter is 17 months. She has to be nursing all the time. Shes always been like this so its not teething or something like that. Im getting really sick of it. I want to be done. She eats in the morning and then when we get out of bed she does it again. And throughout the day. Anytime she falls asleep in the car as soon as we get home she nurses. She does it to fall asleep, half way through nap time, after nap time, before bed. Its driving me insane! And the worst part is at night. She eats every1-2 hours until 3 or 4am. At that point she has to be latched on ALL NIGHT. Most of the time shes not even sucking shes just latched on. And the way she is sucking I hate. The way it feels is like a really annoying tickle feeling and I cant stand it. If I dont let her at any point day or night she will scream bloody murder for hours. At the very least I need the night feedings to end. I cant do it anymore. All I want to do is cry. Ive tried night weaning several times but she just screams for hours. My husband works night so I dont have any help. I dont know what to do anymore.
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  • @llli*lan3's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:29 PM
    Hello! I posted once before in the early stages of breastfeeding my son. I am in need of some advice. I switched my work schedule in February to spend more time at home with him. I now work W/TH/F 12pm-midnight. I get home and typically fall asleep around 1am. My son as of a month ago was still waking twice a night typically around 2 and then 4 I would nurse him for just a few minutes, lay him back down in his crib, easy. He would then be up for the day around 7/7:30 but this is very exhausting for a mom who just worked 12 hours in an ER. Recently (the past month) he has only been waking once at night around 3/4am. I know this is normal, nursing him is comforting, etc but it is just getting to me. I am very over the night wakings especially on the nights I work. He still nurses in the morning/wake-up before both his naps and the occassional pre-dinner snack. What is the most gentle way to encourage the end of overnight feedings? I would also like to fully wean him over the next 6 months or so, any advice? Thanks in advance!
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  • @llli*diripouf's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:09 PM
    Hello everyone My LO is 4.5 weeks now and has been getting formula top-ups since 1.5 weeks ago, as she was not putting on enough weight. She lost 8% of birth weight in the first 4 days and then put on only 20 grams in the following week, and 50 grams the week after. She was not back at her birth weight at 3 weeks so the midwives insisted that I start giving her formula top-ups, and start medication as my supply was low… so I complied. My breasts also never felt that engorged, so it made sense. So I have been pumping my breasts at the end of each feed, giving her around 4 x 60mL of formula top ups each day, and she has put on 290 grams last week (yay!). She feels stronger and more alert. The issue is that I have not been told HOW I am supposed to wean her off these top ups… I can feel that she is getting used to them, and I do not want to continue them endlessly!! Pumping and topping up is a pain, and I would really like to go back to exclusive breastfeeding…
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  • @llli*ap9981's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:53 PM
    My son isn't back on yet :cry If I officially offer, he cries and screams and crawls away. I had him sleeping in my arms in the cradle position the other day, and I put my nipple right by his mouth. He didn't do a thing. I really thought that automatic reflex would kick in - but nothing. I even opened his lips a bit... nothing. It's been 3 weeks. I really think he has forgotten. I know he is 12 months, and many think that it's ok to give in to the strike, but I had just expected to nurse for this entire year as well. Don't lose hope! He had a shorter strike before and went right back without any issue. I know it's possible!
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  • @llli*susanita15's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:49 PM
    Muy buenas! He estado buscando por el foro y al final he encontrado algo de información valiosa que se asimila bastante a mi caso. Es desesperante, pero creo que voy a tener que empezar a tomármelo bien si no quiero acabar majareta. Lo del psicólogo, hoy por hoy, lo descarto, aunque nunca digas: de este agua no beberé. Muchas gracias mamidelirio, porque tu post me ha servido mucho, aunque haga ya 2 años del mismo!
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  • @llli*henrysmom292015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:38 PM
    That was my thought that I cleared part of it. But I can't figure out how to clear the rest.
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  • @llli*henrysmom292015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:37 PM
    Maddieb- Yes, nipple pain with an area of fullness behind the nipple/areola and continuing an inch above. My nipple hurts when I pumped today- but not major pain. I just nursed my son and it was extremely painful. I kept him on though so he could help drain that breast. The spot was still there though. And it doesn't hurt when I'm not nursing/pumping. Unfortunately, I'm home sick with a cold/sinus infection so it's hard to tell what is the cold and what's related to the breast. My husband and I both caught our son's cold. No white spot/bleb on the nipple. None during this whole week this has been happening. Nothing visibly wrong with the nipple, and I haven't been using anything on it. The problem seems to be behind the nipple and not the actual nipple.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:34 PM
    So the issue right now is nipple pain and an area of hardness or rather "fullness" even directly after nursing, in an otherwise soft breast. Do I have that correct? I missed the part about nipple pain. Can you describe that more? Is it hurting all the time, just when baby nurses? Is there anything visibly going on with that nipple? A bleb? Blister? Cracks? flaking? redness/bright pink? Are you using any kind of nipple ointment or other nipple healing procedures-if that would even be appropriate? A breast infection would make you feel ill- fever, aches, no energy- like the flu. I don't think that having an infection would make the plug "harder' to release. Plugs just can be quite hard to release. I also wonder if you had several plugs (or one large one) and that you have cleared some of them/it, and it is just going to take more time with lots or frequent milk expression to clear it completely. My more pressing concern in the nipple pain.
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  • @llli*pandamama's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:49 PM
    Thanks for replying! To answer your questions, I drop baby off at 8 and pick her up at 5:45. I try to nurse right before we get in the car each way. She usually gets a bottle mid-morning, midday, and late afternoon, but sometimes if she was too sleepy in the morning to nurse well, she needs one right after I drop her off too. Accordingly, I pump three times at work and so far my production is just fine. We co-sleep--I'm usually holding her on my chest or she's right next to me; no swaddle or pacifier. You're probably right that it's normal, but I might take her to the doctor just to get weighed as you suggest to give me some peace of mind.
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  • @llli*henrysmom292015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:43 PM
    My temp is normal right now. I think I had a plug because when it started last week, my breast was engorged in that area. My 4month old seems to get frustrated at times when nursing on the affected side- though he still nurses for about the same amount of time on each. What else could it be if it's not a plug?
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  • @llli*filmmommy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:29 PM
    I may be missing something, but what specifically makes you think you have a plug? The supply decrease? The lump you're feeling? I'm wondering if you don't have one at all -- I was misled to believe I had one (by my LC and midwives) when I didn't. But with the fever, you may have trouble. But, also, my fever came on pretty quickly and knocked me out when I had mastitis.
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  • @llli*henrysmom292015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:04 PM
    I haven't tried vibration. I'll try that today. I didn't think I had anything to use, but I'm going to try my husband's electric hair clippers. I have tried cold compress and also dangle nursing, but those didn't help. I've tried to feel and find a specific lump, but I can't find anything. I'm worried there's already an infection and maybe that's causing swelling and preventing the block from releasing.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:40 AM
    Babies often dramatically change their feeding patterns starting at about 3 months, and this change is often temporary but sometimes continues as the "new normal." This is detailed and explained very well in the book My Child Won't Eat in the section "Crisis at 3 months." (the "crisis" is imagined, not real, as this behavior change is usually entirely normal and not a problem as long as baby continues to gain normally- and weight gain rate ALSO tends to normally slow measurable starting at about 3 months. Whether this pattern that is usually normal would be a problem with a late pre-term baby I do not know. But one thing concerns me. If she is only eating every 3-4 hours while you are at work, how is that adding up to 3-4 bottles per day? How many hours are you separated from baby each day? Are you able to pump often enough? My concern would be if baby is getting overfed while you are at work- the individual amounts (2-3 ounces per bottle) sound fine, but I am still unclear how much baby is getting overall while you are at work and how long that daily separation is. Overfeeding when mom is at work can have a very detrimental effect on the child's nursing behavior and moms milk production. Otherwise, as long as baby is being offered to nurse/has the opportunity to nurse day and night, and is gaining normally, then these changes may well be fine and normal. If you are concerned, can't you visit the doctor just for a weight check? You want to have baby weighed on...
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  • @llli*pandamama's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:58 AM
    Hi! I'm a FTM to a 3-month-old girl who was born at 34 weeks. Her adjusted age is 9 weeks. I went back to work 2 weeks ago and starting this week she is in full-time child care, staying with a babysitter in her home. She is ebf and has 4 poopy diapers and 8-10 wet diapers a day. She has been gaining weight well since birth but our doctor appointments are far apart now and she hasn't been weighed since mid-August. My concern is that she is really starting to space out her feedings ever since I went back to work. She eats only every 3-4 hours during the day, when she will take 2-3 ounces of breast milk via a bottle. Sometimes she will be fussy and cluster for a couple of hours in the evening when we first get home, but then she'll only wake up once during the night (usually will sleep from 10 p.m.-2 a.m., nurse one side, then continue sleeping until I have to get up at 5:45). This ends up being 3-4 bottles and 5 nursing sessions (if you count the occasional cluster as one long feed). Does that sound right? She ate every 90 minutes for the first 3 months, and she is still so small--9 pounds; still wearing Newborn clothes. I know some people will tell me I should be happy she's sleeping so much at night but since she was born at >3 pounds I am conditioned to be anxious about her growth! Our next doctor appointment isn't for 2+ weeks and I am looking for ways to feel okay about this new "schedule." It seems too soon! Anyone else have a preemie that spaced out this...
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