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  • @llli*perannie's Avatar
    Today, 10:32 AM
    Thanx for all your advice!! I believe that on Monday I'm gonna contact the hospitals LCs, I am now beginning to wonder about output on one side!! It never feels full like the other side does at times!! And when my LO nurses from that side, it sometimes seems as though it's not satisfying her!! I'm having a hard time with this for some reason!! Still pushing on!! I think switching to formula would be worse on her tummy, trying to find one that won't cause gas, constipation, reflux, and all the other issues that can come up!! I'm just getting sleep deprived and drained!! Can't go anywhere cuz she wants to pacify on breast!! It seems like if she isn't sleeping, she wants to be attached!! It's getting hard!!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 10:25 AM
    In addition, take a look at MaddieB's excellent post on oversupply and allergic proctocolitis, here: http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?123428-Pumping-output-oversupply
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 10:23 AM
    That's very nice weight gain, but not excessively high like we often see in cases of severe oversupply. (My second baby, for example, gained about 1 lb per week.). Therefore I encourage you to be cautious with block feeding- if your oversupply is not too crazy, it's easier to reduce it too much, KWIM? Your pediatrician should not be so adamant about the causes of bloody poop. There are other possible explanations, including bacterial or viral illness and oversupply. I'm glad she wants you to keep nursing, though!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 10:17 AM
    5 day old babies don't need tummy time or walks. All they need is to be snuggled up next to mom, who should spend as much of her time resting and recuperating as possible. There is no good reason to leave a 5 day old baby with family while you lie down upstairs- just take the baby with you. If someone complains that you are "hogging" the baby, ignore them, or better yet give them a chore to do, like waking the dog, sweeping the floor, cleaning a toilet, etc.! This is your baby and the most important things you can do for him are to spend time with him and to get breastfeeding off to a good strong start. You're not doing anything but attending the bris, right? A lot of moms really knock themselves out preparing for the bris, but believe me, this is not the time for you to be cleaning the house or preparing/ordering/obtaining food for guests. Let others do that and focus on yourself and your newborn!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:01 AM
    Hi and welcome! You are right to be concerned about block feeding. Block feeding is a serious intervention meant for a serious issue, and should not be done due only to poop color or gas. Additionally, it is recommended it only be done for a week at most. If overproduction is the problem, it does not take weeks and weeks to get production down to a manageable level. Of course in cases of bad OP, longer blocks would be called for, but I am not seeing anything in what you are describing that suggests block feeding for any amount of time is appropriate. My first suggestion if you think OP is an issue for you is to stop pumping, or only pump if and as long as you need to avoid engorgement. I do not think your pump output indicates over production. Yes, it is on the higher side for pump output when a mom is also nursing around the clock, but is not some outrageous amount. Many moms have higher pump output in the morning than other times of day. Additionally, 6 weeks is the typical peak of milk production. If a mom has any overproduction at this age, it will almost certainly be soon reducing all on its own with no reason for mom to do anything. Mucous and green are entirely normal poop variations. Gas is also normal. If these are the only issues baby is having, I would say no need to worry about OP or your diet. How long have you eliminated dairy for and have you seen any improvement? Also, the poop issue part of OP is also caused by a fast letdown and that is actually...
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  • @llli*dormir41's Avatar
    Today, 09:53 AM
    That sounds like my baby at that age . . . .the arching and fussiness as well as large amounts of normal poop. I believe from my experience and what I've read that it's pretty normal. They are apparently still developing the ability to pass gas and poop at that age, and they strain a lot. It eventually resolves on it's own as they develop (especially being able to burp on their own), but it does help you figure out baby's signs. Now I can usually tell when my daughter is about to poop bc she kicks, grunts, and arches, but not really in pain at 4 1/2 mths. She's just moving it along. I found that when she did that at that age, burping her so she was upright, rubbing her back, and rubbing her tummy along with nursing helped soothe her. I also just ended up carrying her everywhere with me when not nursing. And she didn't sleep much either, but she doesn't nap well now either. She sleeps long periods at night and feeds in her sleep, for which I'm so grateful.
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  • @llli*gallatin's Avatar
    Today, 09:43 AM
    They said it may be because of my thyroid meds being too high, but not for sure. They decreased the dose by half. I really hope it helps. I had a vaginal delivery with a large blood loss, but am not anemic. Thank you for your words about what is expected now - I feel bad about not being up for tummy time, walks, etc. we also have a bunch of family descending on us for his Bris tomorrow which I am stressed out about becUse I feel like I really need quiet, but also don't want to leave the baby with them to lie down upstairs, because then I feel bad leaving the baby.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:33 AM
    Aside from treating the dehydration and nausea, did anyone suggest why you might be feeling this way? Do they think you have a stomach virus, or do they think this is related to the birth or post partum issues or what??? Are you on any pain meds that might be causing you to feel this way? Feeling this way a week post partum is not normal. If it is a virus, then it is a temporary illness, it will get better, and there is not much you can do except try to stay hydrated. But if there is something more going on you may need more treatment. Anyway, here is my experience for what it is worth. I have had three babies, all born via C-sections. Due to the meds given to me during surgery, I would spend the whole day after baby was born throwing up constantly. Once home, due to the surgery, moving was painful, I was stiff, etc, for weeks. Due to the pain meds, I was somewhat out of it as well. Basically ALL I could possibly do was sit on the couch or lay in bed and nurse the baby. This idea you should be 'playing' with your 5 day old infant, I am not sure where this is coming from. If a mom has the strength to hold her baby, as long as baby is fed & changed somehow, that is all a newborn baby needs. To be held and loved. If mom did NOT have that strength, then someone else can hold baby, and baby would be fine. If mom can also nurse baby, she is absolutely doing everything that any baby needs at this age. That is all a newborn needs or expects. To be held and loved, fed...
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  • @llli*gallatin's Avatar
    Today, 09:16 AM
    I have a 5 day old at home, my first baby. He seems to be doing fine at breastfeeding but I am struggling to eat enough. I don't have an appetite and am nauseous and shaky. I ended up in the er last night severely dehydrated. They gave me fluids and a prescription for Zofran. I still feel drained today and am forcing myself to eat. Choking down some white bread toast now. It is so frustrating because I want to feel good, play with the baby, and just feel like myself, but it's so hard right now. If anyone else has gone through this or has suggestions I would love to hear.
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Today, 08:44 AM
    So sorry for your rough start and the challenges you are still working through. One of the more experienced posters will likely have more to offer, but I just wanted to say I know how you feel in regards to the anxiety - we, too, had tongue/lip ties in the beginning, and I worry every day that DD is getting enough to eat (she's almost 8 months now; was revised at 6 weeks). I know I shouldn't worry, because she is a chunky, happy little thing, but I do, especially if we have the odd dry diaper or she's fussy at the breast. Could you perhaps see your IBCLC and do a weighted feed just to reassure you that your baby is transferring well? I have a VERY strong letdown sensation (quite painful), and my LLL leader has said she has the same with her babes, but it lessens as time goes on. Perhaps this is what you are feeling (or not feeling!).
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  • @llli*reena's Avatar
    Today, 07:29 AM
    So, lately my letdowns have been more sluggish. It really seemed to happen a few weeks ago when I had diarrhea and my supply dropped really low. I posted here about it. I also called my LLL leader/IBCLC and she told me that it will take the same amount of days I was having symptoms to bounce back. I had symptoms for 3 days, and sure enough, 3 days later my supply bounced back PLUS some! But after a week of having a bit of 'extra' milk and particularly full breasts, I have been having some issues with letdown. My letdowns don't feel as strong. Before, even if my breasts felt pretty 'empty' I would get that tingly pressure and by breast, often both, would become somewhat firm while ejecting milk. This just seems lessened lately. I am on domperidone, so my cycle is suppressed. I could be having hormonal changes, but the dom keeps me from menstruating. My baby is 10 months old. This just puts me in such a worried state. We had a month of stuggles in the beginning (tongue tie, producing/transferring only 1 oz, etc). I realize now that after getting my supply back on track, I had a little bit of an over supply until DD was 7 months old. Also had an overactive letdown. I have PPA and I believe I have PTSD from our struggle those early weeks. I pretty much worry all the time that one day, my production will fail me and I wont know and baby will be hungry and I just wont realize (basically what happened to me in the beginning). I would say it is fairly pervasive...
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  • @llli*deborah.barrientes's Avatar
    Today, 07:00 AM
    Yes, please be *very* cautious with EO use. Just because they are "natural" does not mean they are safe, particularly for babies & children. This is a great article about the safety of EOs. http://naturopathicpediatrics.com/2014/09/08/essential-oil-safety-danger-essential-oils-seizures-children/
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  • @llli*nj908's Avatar
    Today, 06:51 AM
    My gut tells me it is oversupply.
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  • @llli*nj908's Avatar
    Today, 06:50 AM
    Thanks! Weight gain has been good. She was born at 7.12 and is now 10.8. I will try block feeding starting today. My pedi is adamant that it is something I'm eating and has had me eliminate dairy, soy and now eggs. She is very supportive of breastfeeding and does not want me to switch to formula. My gut tells me it is
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  • @llli*deborah.barrientes's Avatar
    Today, 06:39 AM
    I pump once a day in the morning after feeding LO. I generally get 1.5 - 2 oz. from the side I fed LO on & 2.5 - 3 oz. off the other side. From what I've read, it seems like that's much more than what most BFing moms get while pumping. So, could my significant pumping output be a sign of oversupply? I'm suspicious I have an oversupply/OALD due to my LO's green, mucousy diapers & gas but I've also given up dairy since a milk protein allergy is also suspect. I've been block feeding in 3 hour increments for a couple of weeks but am wondering if I should increase that to 4 or 5 hours. The reason I'm hesitant to do so is I'm afraid of affecting my supply too much since I had supply issues with my first. Any insight? TIA! Edited to add: Baby is 6 weeks old today.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 05:53 AM
    Without knowing how your baby's weight gain has been I feel a little uncomfortable suggesting block feeding. But assuming that your baby's weight gain is normal or high, it does seem that overproduction is a problem for you and therefore you could do some block feeding (i.e., using one breast for more than one feeding in a row, "blocking" the other breast from being used.). Just be cautious with block feeding; it's designed to reduce supply and it's possible to go too far with it. IMO, caution with block feeding means the following: - You don't get too hung up on time. If your blocks are sometimes shorter or longer than usual, it's not a big deal. - You watch your baby. Let's say you fed her twice on one breast and she still seems hungry after the second feeding- well, maybe it's time to swap in the second breast. Block feeding is an art, not a science, so don't be afraid to go by feel or to make a mistake. You're not aiming for perfection! - You remember that supply varies over the day, so many women need longer blocks when supply is at a high point and shorter blocks or no blocks at all when supply takes a natural dip. For example, I needed to block feed in the mornings, when my supply was really high, but by evening I was sometimes offering both breasts at a feeding! - Don't get so hung up on the idea of reducing supply via blocks that you are afraid to offer the breast. Oversupply and fast letdowns marry well with frequent feedings. Are you currently...
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  • @llli*nj908's Avatar
    Today, 03:06 AM
    Thanks for the response! I have a very painful, overactive letdown. When I pump I get an ounce/minute and when I did a weighted feed at my LC she took in almost 4 Oz in under 8 minutes. I had an oversupply with my first but it was corrected by using one side/feeding. Interestingly I never feel engorged and rarely leak.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:48 PM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby! The first thing to know about bloody poops is that in a baby who is generally healthy and growing at a normal pace, they are something to watch but not something to worry too much about. They can also be very persistent, so please release yourself of the feeling of frustration and discouragement if you cannot get this fixed ASAP. Can you tell us a bit more about what you're experiencing, with respect to supply? That is, what symptoms of oversupply are you currently experiencing aside from fast feedings, green and bloody poops, and needing to use just one breast per feeding? And how has your baby's weight gain been?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:35 PM
    Great questions from MaddieB! I, too, am not overly concerned with flow sped. When the baby is gaining weight at a normal pace, it really doesn't matter if the milk is coming slow, fast, or in between. A lot of moms get trapped in the idea that if the baby is fussy, the mom must be doing something wrong and needs to adjust things so that everything is "just right" for her baby. If her flow is too fast, she needs to slow it down, if it's too slow she needs to speed it up... I personally hate when moms try to adjust their flow for their babies, because I think it short-circuits the baby's learning process. A baby is generally capable of learning to nurse in such a way that the baby controls the milk flow. If mom never allows that learning process to take place, mom can get caught in an endless cycle of trying to make her flow "just right" at all times!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:27 PM
    I also leaked a lot, and slept on towels with my first. With my second, I bought a waterproof pad. It's actually designed for adults who wet the bed. But it worked great for leaky breasts- it was less hot than a towel and washed really well. If you leak like crazy, you might want to buy two. But they're worth it, I swear- and you can use them in your kids' beds when they are getting out of diapers.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:23 PM
    Good a ice from the PPs. I also wonder why you feel the need to reduce feedings to 2 per day- are you perhaps worried about being able to pump at work?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:17 PM
    It is possible to get your milk back using the pump alone. It's perhaps not quite as easy as when you have an eagerly nursing baby, but definitely possible! When using a pump ago relactate, here's what you want: 1. A very good pump. A hospital-grade rental would be ideal. 2. Correctly sized shields. 3. Patience, persistence, and determination. Relactation doesn't happen overnight. Think of it as a long term project! 4. Willingness to pump frequently. 8-12 times a day is best, and more is always better. Some of the pump sessions should take place overnight. If you can't always get 8 sessions in per day, don't think that you must give up. Strive for the ideal, accept that some days you probably won't achieve it. Some pumping is always better than no pumping!
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  • @llli*m11612's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:35 PM
    My dd ate her frozen milk as a slushy so all of it just got scraped out of the bag with a spoon. You could try that. I am however starting to wonder if I just have a weird kid. I don't know if all babies would like milk slushies. :)
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  • @llli*m11612's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:06 PM
    Bxlgirl- Pumping while biking! :D I would love to see that! :D If anyone could figure out how, that really would be the ultimate in making the most of a work commute. I'm envisioning a large poncho and some sort of stabilization device. LOL
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