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  • @llli*sarag's Avatar
    Today, 02:57 PM
    I think its definitely a possibility that she is being over fed. My mother in law who is watching her says she acts like she is still hungry after 2-2.5 oz. I'm sure this has to do with the way she is feeding. She thought that it was good to burp after evey oz just for her comfort, if that's not a good thing I will definitely let her know. I'm going to show her the video on paced feeding, so I really hooe this will help. She does use a pacifier often even when I am home. She wants it usually when she is fussy sitting in the swing by herself or when I put her in the car seat (she hates being in it). I don't give it to her when she sleeps unless she keep waking up every few minutes. This I think is because of gas. She has also been pretty gassy and uncomfortable the past few weeks. I tried cutting out dairy but it didn't seem to improve. She often spits up but swallows it, sometimes a long while after feeding. Is this possibly reflux? I also just noticed today a small whiteish/yellow bump on the inside ridge of her gums. I rubbed it and it didn't seem hard but it didn't pop like there's anything in it either. As far as pumping goes I think its pretty good. I get to pump at least 2 times while I'm gone, but I try for 3. My work schedule is hard to work around because I'm a dental assistant so different things take longer than others and sometimes I get stuck. I still get at least 1.5-2.5oz from each breast every time I pump(about every 2 1/2 to 3 1/2hrs). My pediatrician...
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  • @llli*hkwm0714's Avatar
    Today, 02:11 PM
    Do you know of any websites with the exercises like the ST showed you?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 02:00 PM
    Hi I'm really sorry nursing strikes like this can be so very difficult and frustrating. First I would suggest don't believe in your head that she is never going to nurse again. She may not or she may but there is certainly been nursing strike that it lasted far longer than two weeks and eventually the baby went back to nursing. No reason to not offer on a gentle basis whenever you like or the time feels right. I'm sure you've already been suggested to offer when baby is falling asleep, just waking, or sleeping. Also I'm sure you've already read the Kelly mom.com article help my baby won't nurse. Just remember what did not work yesterday or last week may work today. As far as drinking, I can't imagine a child would refuse to drink just for the sake of refusing. Thirst is an incredibly strong motivator. I can only guess that your child is simply not as thirsty as you think she should be. What did the doctors say about the situation, I'm sure you have a list of the signs of dehydration. There are signs of mild to moderate to severe dehydration to watch out for. Severe dehydration does not happen until the mild and moderate has occurred so if you're watching your baby closely you should be able to tell if she is getting to the point where you're going to have to bring her in to the doctor or hospital for treatment for dehydration. I do not know if there are any illnesses or conditions that would cause a child to refuse to drink to the point that they became dangerously...
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  • @llli*jessicanewmom's Avatar
    Today, 01:26 PM
    When I lay down next to my 10 m.o. to nurse her to sleep she often spends 20 minutes or so happily flinging herself around the bed. She babbles and rolls and twists and tries to engage me in smiling, etc. She stops by for a quick drink and goes back to her flinging. I usually try to pretend I'm asleep. Eventually she tires herself out and nurses to sleep. So, do I just need to wait longer to try to nurse her down? Or is this just another roll-with-it quirk of nursing a baby who's no longer an infant? Or is this a nip-it-in-the-bud behavior like pinching? It's not a big problem (in fact it's kind of cute when I'm not in a rush), but it does add quite a bit of time to our already pretty elaborate bedtime ritual. On nights when I do wait until she's really tired before nursing her down she doesn't do this, but then we seem to have an hour of crankiness instead.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:44 AM
    also: Why is this being done? This suspiciously sounds like a technique for getting as much milk into a baby at one feeding as possible. This is NOT what you want to have happening. If baby needs to burp, that will be clear. If baby is being given bottles with appropriate pauses, insisting baby burp at all is probably not needed. As far as burping "every ounce" it just does not even make sense. Why every one ounce? (why not a half ounce? Why not two ounces) and why always? Even if the burping is working well for baby- the ounce per ounce things may indicate caregiver is looking at how much baby is drinking rather than following babies cues for how much baby wishes to drink, which will normally fluctuate meal to meal. Hopefully the links above explain paced bottle feeding well. Kellymom has more info too I believe. It can seem very odd to someone who is used to bottle feeding the 'old' way or who has been told to feed in such a way as to never let any air into the bottle.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:33 AM
    Sorry- just saw your other post. If you think fast letdown is part of what is going on, have you tried laid back positioning? http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/01_laid_back_breastfeeding.pdf and http://www.nancymohrbacher.com/ Encouraging frequent nursing also helps reduce the flow. If baby is sucking her hands, or cueing in any way, or you just feel like nursing, never any harm in offering to nurse.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:30 AM
    How frustrating! This is not an uncommon situation, and there are many things to try to turn this around. Since this started after your return to work, it is likely, but not 100% certain, it is due to the introduction of regular bottles. First, I would suggest making sure that your baby is not being overfed while you are at work. If baby is getting more than 1 to 1.5 ounces per hour of separation, it is possible baby is being overfed. A Baby who is being overfed with bottles will often stop being enthusiastic about nursing. As pp suggests, make sure baby is being cue fed using paced bottle feeding positioning and pauses. This is VITAL, as it allows baby to control the feeding just as baby does at the breast. It is your best bet when trying to prevent the overfeeding and/or "flow confusion" that leads to breast refusal. If it is not happening, make sure it starts happening. Is anything else happening that might interfere with your baby's desire to nurse? Pacifier use, sleep training, and meal scheduling are other things that can inadvertently "train" a baby away from nursing. A 2 month old will typically nurse frequently for both food and comfort, and this is behavior that is best encouraged while baby is with you. Pacifier use may be ok while you are at work, but it also may be helpful to suggest other methods of comforting baby to your baby's caregiver.
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  • @llli*sarag's Avatar
    Today, 10:08 AM
    The only thing that is being done now is burping her after every ounce. How should I explain paced feeding to them? I don't think it is my supply being low though, I think I may have a fast let down because sometimes she will choke or click while sucking. That often upsets her further. I think she is mostly used to it now but could I still have a low supply with a fast let down? She eats about every 2-3hrs during the day and at night she has been doing aboit every 4hrs. She recently started sucking on her hands. I think she is doing it because she's hungry but I know its possible she's only doing it because she found them.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 08:45 AM
    It is so odd to me to deal with DS only nursing for a very short time now when he is wide awake. When he wants to nap he will still often latch on and comfort nurse/sleep for a long time. But when not sleepy... Sometimes I'm lucky to get 4 minutes of nursing out of him.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 08:24 AM
    use paced bottle feeding to give bottles so baby learns to work a little harder for it. You might try using a lactation aid or SNS at the breast if you are able to get baby to latch as this will give a more immediate flow of milk. Perhaps expressing a little or dripping some milk on your nipple when getting baby to latch would help give the Idea where milk comes from.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 08:16 AM
    are bottles being given in a breastfeeding supportive manner. As in paced bottle feeding? I found that using the breastflow or lanisnoh mOmma nipples (slowest flow possible, and those also are the best shape for us to keep as deep/wide a latch as possible) and actually taking bottle out of my LO's mouth every several sucks so that he would have to reach for it and latch back on if he wanted more helped me break my lo of his bottle habit. I also had to go to some effort to bring my supply up too.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 07:10 AM
    Here is a resource you might find useful for tracking progress on growth charts. https://iotacharts.com/en/public/info As Mommal says, it is not uncommon to waver on the charts. Going from 10 centile to 5 centile is not "panic" time (My LO has been bouncing back and forth between those two for a while now.) But I agree that offering to nurse more (and nursing before solid meals) may help keep the weight up and provide those extra calories for her increased mobility. My LO used to nurse for a LONG time and he still will when sleepy but when he is wide awake and distracted, I'm usually able to nurse for between 6-12 minutes and that is switching sides several times. My LO is only 6 months old but developmentally acting a little more like an 8 month old so I'm having trouble keeping up!!! (being advanced is not all good.)
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  • @llli*ellie3007's Avatar
    Today, 06:39 AM
    Thank you so much!!!! Im already part of the facebook page milky mamas so ill def check out their meetings! Thanks again!
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  • @llli*pepper19's Avatar
    Today, 06:35 AM
    Hi everyone, My 11 month old baby girl is refusing to drink from the breast and any type of bottle, cup, sippy cup. Firstly, she isn't sick or teething! We've had two weeks of it to observe her and it's definitely neither of those. I've been exclusively breastfeeding since birth, but the other night, she bit my nipple quite hard during a feed and (so very regrettably) I reacted badly, yelling out at her. This scared her and ever since, she hasn't gone back to the boob. She even begins to cry as soon as she can see me getting my breast out. So I've tried EVERYTHING to get her back on the boob. Bathing with her, playing with my breasts out, dreamfeeding, leaving it for a few days so she doesn't feel pressured... I'm certain now that she is never going back, so I'm now focusing on getting her to drink by other means. I'm still expressing milk, but she is barely drinking any of it and neither water or diluted juice or anything. She isn't used to bottles or cups, but she's not even trying to work them out, she just cries and pushes them away when I offer. I've tried a real no-pressure approach by just leaving a sippy cup in her play area or on her tray table during meals, and she plays with it a little but that's about it. I've tried all the different types of sippy cups including free flowing and straw cups. She has drunk from my water glass before but only occasionally. She just seems to be refusing for the sake of refusing. Sometimes she'll let me give her milk through a...
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Today, 05:14 AM
    (Sorry, posted twice and don't know how to fully delete.)
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Today, 05:13 AM
    Although I can't get much further in the website due to language, this birthing center seems to have many IBCLCs on staff: http://mamasbirthcenter.tistory.com/m/post/5 Again, I am not sure if this is near you, if this is up to date info, or if they offer lactation consultant services, but it's worth checking out. There is also a Korean Lactation Consultant Association; their website is: Klca.co.kr
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  • @llli*ngs215's Avatar
    Today, 05:03 AM
    I have to agree with the PP, if baby doesn't want a bottle, I don't see why it is a problem to wait and try again later. Maybe they are misreading the cues? My DD would start rooting and sucking on her fists when she wanted to nurse, but only when she wanted to nurse right to sleep. If you tried to give her a bottle at that time, she would have been mad. Because she was cueing for sleep, not food. Be really careful with thinking that baby 'should' be hungry and therefore 'should' want a bottle. My DD took the bottle great the first couple of times, so I left her withDH and went out for a couple hours. When I came back, DD and DH were both crying hysterically. DD wouldn't take the bottle, DH was sure she was hungry so kept trying to force it, DD started crying, DH decided she must have been over hungry because it took too long to heat it up, so he tries harder to get her to take the bottle, etc. It took us 4 weeks to get her to take another bottle, and another month to get her to take them easily.
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Today, 04:47 AM
    Cities are big!, so I know that this group might not be near enough to you, but maybe it might be. And if not, there wouldn't be any harm in posting on their Facebook to learn if they have any recommendations for nearer to you. This is a peer support group: https://m.facebook.com/LLLSeoul?_rdr THURSDAYS at 10:30am at Yongsan Healthy Family Support Center in Itaewon. SATURDAYS 10:30am at Homestead Coffee on the 2nd Saturday of some months in Itaewon.
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  • @llli*ellie3007's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:19 PM
    My baby is only 10 days old and from the beginning because of her tongue tie was not able to breastfeed properly. She lost a little bit of weight in the first few days which i thought it was normal, and after the peds recommendation we went ahead with the clipping which i thought it would help but she still refuses to latch! We have been feeding her my pumped milk (i get about 100ml) per session 20 min session but im really exhausted And really just want to breastfeed. But im afraid shes so used to the bottle now, every time i try to feed her she screams and cries of frustration, im also using kellymom technique of trying once feeding a little trying twice feeding a little but still no remarkable advances... Is it too late to go back to the breast? I even tried nipple shields...i would love the help of a LLL consultant but im korea, seoul and the only consultant we had moved back to US. Please help :(
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  • @llli*sarag's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:12 PM
    I recently went back to work about 2 weeks ago, 3 days a week. She is obviously bottle fed while I am gone. She has always been somewhat fussy once or twice a day while trying to feed her, but lately she will not BF at all! I have tried skin to skin, walking while trying to get her to latch, calming her and then trying again and even while she's sleeping. Every time I even move her into the position she starts to scream. She pushes away from me and does her head back and forth as if trying to latch but she just wont.If I hold her there she will fuss for a bit then calm down with my nipple in her mouth but she won't actually latch on. This has been going on for about a week and I feel so sad/frustrated/rejected. I have probably gotten her to eat maybe 10 times in this past week. When she is latched she often pulls away and won't go back on as well.I'm afraid she is getting to used to the bottles and how easy they are. I don't know what else to do, I really want to keep breastfeeding her but I feel like she is done :( i did have the pediatrician check her tongue for tonguetie but she said its fine.Please give any suggestions on what I can do.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:31 PM
    Welcome to the forum! I think you're right to be alert, and right to be ready to make some changes, but you probably don't need to be concerned. Being not particularly interested in nursing at 9 months is common- a lot of babies lose a lot of interest at this age because they are so busy with new skills and new interests (e.g. crawling, playing with toys, interacting with people, etc.). A decline in weight percentile is also common at this age, as babies often drop percentiles as they become more mobile and start devoting more calories to action than to packing on fat. So that's all good, right? Now, that being said, nursing just 4x per day is quite low for this age- a lot of breastfed babies are nursing at least double that amount. And because breastmilk has more calories and provides more balanced nutrition than any other food you can offer, it makes sense to encourage more nursing, especially when you're concerned about your baby's weight. So what I would do would be to immediately start offering the breast more often, even if she will only take it for 5 minutes. A brief sip here and there can really add up. I would also offer at night, at least once and more if you can stand it. Babies often nurse better when sleepy than when wide awake. Finally, if the baby still isn't nursing much, I would consider pumping in addition to nursing. It's possible that your baby's lack of interest in the breast has caused your supply to be lower, and that lower supply has...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:19 PM
    Yes, exactly! A lot of people expect that they are going to feel letdowns, because a lot of resources say that letdowns feel like tingling or pins and needles, and fail to mention that not everybody feels those sensations during letdown. It's often better to judge your letdown by what you observe than what you feel. If the baby suddenly starts swallowing really rapidly, that's probably a letdown. If you're pumping and the milk suddenly starts to squirt out much more rapidly or abundantly, that's a letdown.
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  • @llli*alyssajhess's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:30 PM
    For about a week now my 9 mon old daughter has been very uninterested in nursing and when she does eat she eats for a very short time. I have tried laying down to feed, rocking, dark room, etc. Nothing really seems to make her more interested. She seems to be too distracted or simply not hungry. I have expressed milk and given her a bottle (she has been taking bottles/nursing since 11 days old-no problem with nipple confusion) and she shows the same disinterest. I am starting to be concerned about her weight. At her 9 month checkup 10 days ago she weighed 16 lbs and was 27 in long. At her 6 mon appt she was 13 lbs and 25 in long. She has always been in the 20th percentile since birth. We visited a new pediatrician at the 9 mon apt and he did not give me the percentile she was in but said she was incredibly healthy. When I got home I looked up her percentile and she is in the 5th percentile for weight. So that concerned me since its such a big drop in percentile. She's very active, very happy and she eats solids fairly well. She has no other issues other than the drop in nursing. I did eliminate her night feeding at 10:30p because she was not nursing for that one. So now she nurses 4 times a day. Normally for 10-20 min. Now it's closer to 5 min total. What can I do for her to help her eat more/gain weight. Or is there nothing to be concerned about?
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  • @llli*julienne02's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:17 PM
    An update--he is doing better this week, and the last day of last week went much better. His naps were a little off the days he was fussy, and I guess it is possible he is just wanting the comfort of nursing for teething. Even on days that are ok, he doesn't eat that much and sometimes refuses to eat before bed and then cries, after which DH offers the sippy cup again and he finally eats. I think he is trying to hold out for me. I will taste test the milk next chance I get anyway, I didn't realize it could be a problem with refrigerated milk.
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  • @llli*hkwm0714's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:13 PM
    Ds is 4 weeks. Tt was corrected at birth and three days ago, lt three days ago as well. I saw your post and have contacted a therapy center in my town - I am hoping they can help or know someone who can.
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