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  • @llli*meimei's Avatar
    Today, 09:14 PM
    I know this is an old thread - but am curious to hear what happened. My LO went on strike when she came down with a really bad cold a month ago and I am still pumping what I can for her. Have tried all the tricks in the book, but to no avail. Hoping there's a happy ending out there :)
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  • @llli*meimei's Avatar
    Today, 09:03 PM
    : ) Now I found your thread here :) I'm experiencing the same thing - that it seems she forgot how to latch on!!! So weird. I guess all I can do is keep offering every now and then. And yes, I've tried all the usual tricks too... nothing works. Are you still pumping/trying?
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  • @llli*meimei's Avatar
    Today, 08:54 PM
    So we're approaching the 1 month mark. I am still pumping 4-5 times per day. In the last week my LO has 'tasted' my boobs a few times but without latching. She has also shown that she doesn't like the pump - she'll come over sometimes when I pump and pull at it and make smacking noises and point to her mouth. I then offer her the breast and a couple of times she has 'nibbled' but again , no latch. So she knows what they do and she still wants the dolly to nurse every once in a while, but nothing more. I still hope and wish and sometimes I wonder how long I can go on. I'm thinking, even if I stop pumping (gradually) and the milk supply goes down, a lot of moms who have stopped nursing still notice there is milk up to a year later... so if the baby wanted to start nursing again, maybe it would be possible. We have a big transatlantic move coming up in a month that I will have to handle much myself (due to my husband's travel for work) and it feels like a lot to handle. Maybe I should just gradually stop pumping now since there will be a few days around the move when I most likely won't have the chance to pump.. Argh!! I so just wish this hadn't happened. My little bunny was such a boob loving kid and now... Makes me so sad. I used to have no doubt we'd make it until her 2nd birthday and beyond and this feels way too early. :( :( :(
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  • @llli*bfwmomof3's Avatar
    Today, 08:26 PM
    This is wonderful. I wish every mom could have such a supportive workplace! Glad your husband is on board with the family trip. Sounds like it will be a nice chance to spend some time together as a family too once you've gone back to work.
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  • @llli*bfwmomof3's Avatar
    Today, 08:21 PM
    There's no real reason to give rice cereal except for the fact that it often is iron-supplemented, but there are other ways to give baby iron. If you want to try fruits or vegetables first that is perfectly fine. With my first two kids I gave cereals and traditional pureed foods. With the third kid I skipped cereals and purees and did baby-led weaning/baby-led solids. http://www.rapleyweaning.com/assets/blwleaflet.pdf The nice thing with baby-led solids is that baby self-feeds. So if he doesn't like something, he doesn't eat it. For the first year, breastmilk is the most important source of nutrition, solids are for learning new tastes, textures and the motor skills to self-feed. Baby can go at his own pace. Of course, if baby throws up every time he has any type of solids, that is something to bring to the attention of baby's doctor.
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  • @llli*skyanne's Avatar
    Today, 07:45 PM
    YES! I am a very type A "there's an app for that" person. I spend an unreal amount of time reading parenting books, looking at different baby websites, asking other peoples opinions, logging symptoms.... I tend to worry myself sick over nothing. I also put a lot of pressure on myself. DS had reflux, and I wound up having to switch to the added rice formula at 4 1/2 months. He was on Prevacid and Zantac, and we also had to start him on solids early. We were using a different pediatrician then (in a different state), the one we are using now prefers to not medicate unless she really has to. If I remember correctly, DS had to be a certain age before we could be prescribed the prevacid. I'll ask about it at DDs next weight check. I'd hate to have to put DD on the formula too. I keep her upright as often as possible. Really the only time I have her laying flat is for diaper changes....I feel like nothing has really helped so far except the formula, but all the websites say reflux babies are supposed to do better on breastmilk. I feel like if I tell my pediatrician how well she did on the formula she will tell me to go ahead and switch, even though she's one of the more pro BFing pediatricians in the area. However, my LC cant give me advice about the reflux because it's a medical condition. The whole thing is driving me crazy. ^Sorry if that was incoherent, I'm really tired tonight.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 06:19 PM
    :ita I think it might be a good idea to go back to the pediatrician and ask about using a different dosage or different medication. I think Prevacid is sometimes used instead? Worries about baby "not getting enough" are probably as old as humankind. Breastfeeding requires moms to have faith in themselves and their bodies and not try to measure everything all the time... It's hard to operate on that instinctual level, instead of the "there's an app for that" level. KWIM?
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  • @llli*dormir41's Avatar
    Today, 06:14 PM
    Thank you! I think my co-workers and supervisor are just happy to have me back in the office and couldn't care less if I pump next to them or take over a room. And the pump isn't that loud, so I probably won't disturb anyone no matter where I pump. They want whatever works, which is nice for me. I don't think I'm going to take the offer of the office unless the supervisor isn't in that day, just bc that does mean I have a time frame, and I'd rather not be rushed. But the offer is awesome. My supervisor also said she wants me to ease in and said if I need to take a day or two off to see my in laws to just do it. And I got my husband on board with that plan as well, so now I just have to make it in to work and pick the day or two I want off. You are right, I will get to see her in the evenings, and my husband is taking leave for a month and a half so we don't have to put her in day care until she's four months old. Which makes worry about disturbing him a little silly, but I love my sleep and wanted to give him some too. :-) You've helped so much in helping me process. I now know I should have enough milk even if I don't pump the rest of this week, and I just have to get used to another change. I'm grateful for this forum! :-)
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 06:08 PM
    I agree with bfwmomof3. Here are a few idea I have picked up from The Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and My Child Won't Eat. 1) After three months, babies typically start gaining measurably more slowly than previously. Also about this age, 3 or 4 months, many babies appear less interested in nursing, fussy when nursing, or in some other way change their nursing or other behavior. (Some want to nurse MORE often.) At the same time, moms often feel as if they are more "empty" than previously. This is all usually entirely normal and basically a normal stage. This is described brilliantly in My Child Won't Eat as the 'Crisis at 3 months." The reason it is a crisis is these changes may cause mom to think she is unable to provide for her baby and in many cases, starts supplementing when it is not necessary. I cannot replicate all what the author says here, so I can only suggest the book. Of course this is also the age that many moms return to work and yes, bottle feedings can change the way baby responds to the breast. This is why being sure baby is fed in a breastfeeding supportive way when away from you, as well as encouraged to nurse when with you, can be very important for breastfeeding longevity. 2) Because babies gain in fits and starts and not totally steadily, the gain that occurs in one week is not necessarily an accurate reflection of overall average gain. You might also ask if the scale has been changed out or recalibrated between the weight checks. 3)...
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  • @llli*peijie's Avatar
    Today, 05:59 PM
    My LO is 6 months old now. He is fully on breastmilk. We start giving him solid like rice cereal. We mix it with breastmilk and it's not to thick. Watery kind. But he don't really like and only eat about two to three small spoon of it. But after he wake up from his nap (after about 3hour), he start to throw up. This isn't the first time. We tried to feed him when he's about 5 month and 5 and a half month. Same thing happen. I tried to google and it say that breastmilk is easily digest and rice cereal is difficult. So some suggest to start with fruits and vegetables first. Anyone facing the same problem?
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  • @llli*sacmd's Avatar
    Today, 05:05 PM
    Sorry I should have clarified. I go to a mom-baby group at the local Birthing Center and they have an infant scale there. I weigh her mostly for fun, though today it was not so fun to see that number!
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  • @llli*bfwmomof3's Avatar
    Today, 05:00 PM
    Is this your regular home scale that you use to weigh yourself? If so, it may not be that accurate (although the fact that it's reading ounces makes me think it's more than that). It's possible the transition to work is playing into it; after all, it's a big transition for her, too. Which does not mean that she won't adjust and continue to gain normally. Some babies do develop a bottle preference when mom goes back to work, though. Is your caregiver doing paced feeding? If you're worried, it definitely does not hurt to offer more often (say, every 1.5 to 2 hours) and to cut back or stop the pacifier use when you are at home, especially if there is a concern for bottle preference. Use the breast to soothe instead. I mean, it's hard to know why she is fussing, she will not overfeed at the breast, so there is no downside to offering to nurse. And it helps you both reconnect when you get home from a day of work! (Even my 3 yo wants to nurse and nurse when I get home from work!) When you are apart from her, on the other hand, if the pacifier helps prevent overfeeding with the bottle, that can be helpful.
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  • @llli*bfwmomof3's Avatar
    Today, 04:51 PM
    Hmm, definitely worth looking into then. You don't want to have to pump and dump for any longer than necessary. Here are a couple threads I've found on the forums that address the issue: http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?118584-Totally-panicking-about-dental-work-I-just-had-done-help!!&highlight=amalgam http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?117245-Breastfeeding-and-amalgam-filling&highlight=amalgam Particularly relevant to you: http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?117610-After-dental-work-Doctor-advises-to-quit-BF-please-advise And this is the kelly mom information: http://kellymom.com/bf/can-i-breastfeed/chemicals/mercury/
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  • @llli*sacmd's Avatar
    Today, 04:40 PM
    Hi all, I have a 3.5 MONTH (Not week as in the title) old girl who is exclusively breastfed. Her birth weight was exactly 8 lbs. Since birth she has gained on average a little over 5 ounces/week, so on the lower side of normal, but still keeping up. She is growing in length and very appropriate for development, so no concerns there. My main concern is that I weighed her today on the same scale as 1 week ago exactly and she had only gained 1.5 ounces, from 12 lbs 6 oz last week to 12 lbs 7.5 oz today. That really surprised me. She seems happy and we are changing wet and dirty diapers, though I'm not counting how many a day. The only things I can think that may be happening are: 1. I went to work over the weekend (first full days back at work) and she fed EBM from a bottle both days from my husband and her grandmother. I pumped while at work and got 3-5 ounces per session. Could returning to work have affected her interest in nursing? She seems a little disinterested in nursing during the day; I have to put her on the breast every 2-3 hours and then she nurses for a pretty short period of time, gets frustrated when the flow slows (starts pulling like taffy and grunting, crying) and so I take her off, switch breasts, then just stop. If I let her sit there longer, she shows frustrated behavior and pulls off repeatedly, doesn't really suckle.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 03:40 PM
    I know you are not the one who thought your darling child was a bother. I am talking about your mother who overfed your child so she would not bother her. I am really sorry I was not more clear. Again, supplementing only needed if baby is not able to gain normally breastfed. I am still unclear if that is the case or not, but of course if it is, then supplementing is appropriate. Supplementing does not mean overfeeding. It means, supplementing. But if it is the case that baby cannot gain well breastfed, It is not because "Your milk runs through her." It would be due to her not getting enough milk overall, OR, an underlying healthy issue. I am not a doctor. But I did have a child who was diagnosed with reflux. A few things I learned was 1) Zantac is not the only game in town and 2) sometimes the dosage is too much or too little and there may be side affects and 2) Not always is meds the appropriate approach. Dr. Sears has a good article on GERD you can check out if you have not already. www.askdrsears.com
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  • @llli*honeycake's Avatar
    Today, 03:30 PM
    Thank you very much, great information and also very reassuring. I will search the forums for more info. I have found the information in general on amalgam removal and breastfeeding a bit thin on the ground, so if anyone has any experience that would be great to know. From what i have found, in case anyone else is looking for facts and figures, after amalagams are removed the mercury levels increase in the body over about a week, peak and then exponentially decline, so that is my reasoning around waiting two weeks to resume nursing. My dentist actually advised waiting only 24 hours!
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  • @llli*skyanne's Avatar
    Today, 03:16 PM
    She was on Zantac, but we took her off of it. On the Zantac she cried inconsolably all the time, and also had some bad gas issues. Without the Zantac she only gets inconsolable after she projectiles, or if she throws up in the back of her mouth. She went from 8 lbs even to 9 lbs 6 oz in a month, which is huge for her. So far her monthly average has been about 12 oz. Please dont get me wrong, I dont think she's a bother. I was just thinking that her behavior may have been a sign that she wasnt getting full enough.
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  • @llli*yvonne9's Avatar
    Today, 02:58 PM
    Thank you everyone for your kind reassurance. Your right I will never see her again and just leave it as a bad day for her. Midwives will call out to the house to make sure everything is ok and the impression I got from them was the paed was a bit of a 'B'. He is two days old and I'm feeding him every two hrs or even sooner if he will take it. I remember this from my last baby who is now two and a half who I thankfully breastfed until she was 20months.dirty nappies have been good ,nearly after every feed. The thing I forgot about since the last time was how difficult it can be to wake a sleepy newborn to feed, have looked at pdf's for nappy log and waking sleepy baby which is a great refresher tool
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  • @llli*queen-chuchi's Avatar
    Today, 02:35 PM
    I don't have much advice, but wanted to offer moral support. It sounds like you have been off to a really rocky start, but hang in there. I was getting really discouraged, and have decided to go with my gut. Plus, not all LC's are rock stars. There was one at the hospital that told me something was very wrong, when the baby couldn't lack on correctly, and didn't offer much support beyond that. It was late in the day, so maybe she was tired. But I was like, "Wow, thanks a lot." I went to the other LC, and I have appreciated her advice and encouragement. In fact, I'm going to see her for more help tomorrow. I am also not sure that I buy the whole clean diet thing. I thought food when to your intestine. I am not sure that it affects the breast milk, though I could be wrong.
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  • @llli*queen-chuchi's Avatar
    Today, 02:25 PM
    Hi, The LC was concerned that she wasn't emptying the breast, so I have been pumping and having my mom or husband feed her the bottles. I was giving her an ounce of formula with breast milk, which is what the LC advised, but my doctor told me not to mix the two. Frankly, I would be happy if she only drank my breast milk when I am too tired to nurse her. The doctor was just concerned that she had not gained her birth weight in two weeks, which I guess is a major benchmark. But, I definitely don't want to overfeed her. She gained quite a bit in four days, and I wasn't supplementing after every feeding like he suggested. I think she got around 9 oz of formula and 6 of breast milk, which was about two to three bottles in three days. Plus, she is nursing a lot more than she was the first two weeks. I would rather she not have to take any formula, so I am telling my mom to give her the breast milk first and formula, only if I need to sleep between 2a.m. to 6a.m., which is when I get a couple of hours of straight sleep. He wants me to keep supplementing her with formula after every feeding, but I don't see the point if she's gaining weight. I figure as long as she is still growing and having plenty of wet and pooped diapers, she should be fine. She was also a little bit jaundiced, but her recent blood work was normal. She has her next weigh in a four weeks, so we will see how it goes. I told my husband I wanted to switch to a doctor that specialized in...
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  • @llli*mamawin's Avatar
    Today, 01:43 PM
    I replied to your question in the other forum: http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?122969-Oversupply-to-Undersupply
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  • @llli*mama7008's Avatar
    Today, 01:20 PM
    I'm so sorry you had such a discouraging experience! I went into labor convinced I had all the knowledge I needed to get through that and breastfeeding (I didn't), but I was determined to make breastfeeding work and knew I would face hurdles in this community (NOT breastfeeding friendly). Nurses at the hospital were trying to teach me how to get my newborn to sleep through the night at a day old, when we went back into the hospital for baby's infection, they were convinced she would be better off in the hospital crib across the room, not in bed with me doing skin to skin, feeding on demand, etc, and when baby lost initial weight after birth (normal), they gave me info on formula. And that is the ped's office that has the most breastfeeding-friendly reputation in my city! All that to say, I definitely recommend finding your local LLL and going to meetings or talking to leaders (or both!). It is so encouraging to talk to other moms and know you're doing things "right," no matter what the medical professionals seem to think.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:43 PM
    Everything sounds great. I am a bit confused on how pumping after feeding means baby gets to the hindmilk-do you mean that you then give baby what you pump as a supplement? Anyway, of course it is a good idea, when supplementing, to supplement with YOUR breastmilk as an alternative to formula supplements, as much as possible. And if pumping after nursing works well for you, great to- but some moms find that a difficult routine to maintain. But please do not think that it is typical that poor or slower than average weight gain is somehow linked to baby not getting enough "hindmilk" when baby nurses. This is not how it works. Either baby gets enough milk at the breast, or they do not. There are not different kinds of milk. If I am understanding, baby gained 8 ounces in 4 days? This is twice the norm. I would keep talking to doctor about eliminating supplements entirely at this point. They may be entirely unneeded or at least can be reduced. When is the next weight check? Be sure all checks are on same scale with baby in dry diaper as the previous check, or else you cannot truly trust the numbers. Yes it is true as LC says that if you keep pumping this will be helpful in preventing any issue with your milk production. But there is much more to it. New moms are exhausted, and pumping and supplementing is a lot more work. An overfed baby may nurse less often, which certainly will harm milk production and the nursing relationship. Also there is the potential issue of...
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