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  • @llli*dandelions's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:27 PM
    I was struck by the amount you said your son is eating. A 5 oz bottle in one sitting sounds quite large for a breastfed 9 week old. Are you using infant nipples and paced bottle feeding? (articles: KellyMom on Bottle Feeding, LLLI on Bottle Feeding) If not, baby may be getting more from the bottles than they would normally drink. This could be making baby angry after the bottle, as could gas, hunger, etc. It sounds like your LO is on a schedule, and I can't speak to how that might affect things. However, if a baby is fed on demand, and paced so they only consume as much as they want, I would neither worry about the total ounces nor total bottle-fed ounces unless diaper output or weight/physique indicate a problem. I work full time and my DS eats 0.5-1.5 oz / hour of separation, depending on the day; so 10 oz in and of itself doesn't seem odd to me
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  • @llli*american.honey's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:10 PM
    Mommal how do I join the Relationships & Sexuality forum? I did look at my control panel, but don't know what to do from there.
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  • @llli*jmbl714's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:30 PM
    Thanks for sharing your experience :) I guess I'm not ready to give up co-sleeping yet! Perhaps that's my downfall.. but its hard to quit when I am able to get so much more sleep because of it! (and of course cuddles all night :) )
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:49 PM
    Do you mean an at the breast supplementer? Are you using a homemade one or an SNS or Lact-Aid? If a baby is not gaining it is really important to see an IBCLC to help you figure out why and come up with a plan to approach the problem. Have you been able to do this? How did you diagnose low milk production? If you are going by the amount you can express, that is not going to always give you an accurate information. When you say: do you mean you are limiting the length of the feed? Or that is how long baby nurses prior to getting the supplement? Have you considered reversing the process-giving baby a little milk (like an ounce) to get baby going and then removing the tube? Also, how often is baby nursing? What stimulates milk production is milk coming out of the breasts frequently. So pumping WILL stimulate production, assuming you pump often enough and your pump is the right kind of pump for what you are doing and in excellent working order. A double electric is good, but a hospital grade rented pump is probably better for a situation where mom does not make enough milk.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:29 PM
    :ita with mommal. I think your appointment resulted in mostly good news- the observation by the LC that there is nothing obvious wrong, you have good milk production, and the weighted feed that showed intake. There are many ways to increase milk intake by baby. The most obvious is to offer to nurse more often. Another is to offer both breasts at each feeding, and gently encourage baby to take both. Another is breast compressions. Did your LC discuss these or other options with you? I am not saying your baby actually needs more milk. Personally I think your baby's growth sounds entirely normal and it appears your baby's doctor thinks all is fine as well. However, your mother instinct is telling you something is off, and I am a big believer in listening to mom. And baby getting more milk at the breast never hurt anything. breast compressions: http://www.breastfeedinginc.ca/content.php?pagename=doc-BC
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:59 PM
    A single weigh-feed-weigh measurement actually doesn't tell you much. Babies don't always take in the same amount of milk, and sometimes their performance at the LC's office will be significantly worse/better than their average feeding at home. If you really need to determine your baby's intake, ask to rent a scale for a few days, and weigh your baby before and after every (or most) nursing sessions. You will see variation in the numbers you get, but you will also be able to come up with a good per-feeding average and a more accurate sense of your baby's daily intake.
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  • @llli*alexazhang's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:29 PM
    Thanks, i will try it.
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  • @llli*greatestjoy's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:16 PM
    I have been following your thread, and my heart just aches for you. Truly. I don't have all the answers, but I have at least some thoughts for you. 1. Did you double and triple check on a different infant scale to make sure the weight is correct? 2. See #1 3. See #1 4. Even if you choose to supplement with formula, there is NO REASON under the sun to stop providing your child with some breastmilk. 30%, 50%, 70% breastfed are all better than 0%. Like others have said, unless your child has a rare metabolic disorder that makes breastmilk dangerous, you should provide milk, even if it is in pumped form. Also, breastmilk is more calorie rich so... makes no sense to eliminate this from baby's diet. 5. Foremilk, shmoremilk. Please do not be caught up in this, just ignore that the words foremilk and hindmilk even exist. Really. Even if a baby were to drink all foremilk for 2 months, they are not going to gain zero ounces in this time. Your baby is not getting getting enough VOLUME of milk in. 6. Could be medical, has your doctor run any tests? 7. If you start bottle feeding baby more, please nurse baby a couple times a day, so baby doesn't forget. You don't want to make your supply zero. Use the instant reward methods others have advocated, so that baby doesn't have to wait for a letdown.
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  • @llli*mamamx2015's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:54 PM
    i am wondering if any moms who have used a syringe/tube (fine tube lies along nipple to deliver milk) to feed baby extra milk while baby actively sucking at breast, as a way to stimulate milk production. i need tips. when i press it along areola the tip pops up and pokes him. my milk production is low. i have tried everything, but baby not gaining at 2 weeks (birth weight 7#2, now 6#11) his behaviour is reassuring. he is healthy, strong, alert, eager to nurse, strong suck (but not for long), good colour, lots of wet diapers, skin to skin all the time, good latch, strong suck (but not for long)offer whenever he wants it, wakes self every 2-3 hours to nurse. content after. i am putting him to breast for 15 minutes. he sucks sporadically. then feed (while still sucking) 2 ounces my milk and doner milk. he is content after. my concern is he seems to be sucking less vigorously when he is getting milk easily with the tube. i don't know if he is getting lazy. he is so alert. i am only expressing (double electric pump)and i worry this will not stimulate my own production. another concern is he favours one breast and fights going on the other. he grabs at the breast, seriously strong, his hands getting in the way. i have tried swaddling, but i feel he is using his hands to locate and stimulate the breast. i guess what i am really saying is i am not making enough milk to feed my baby. i only express 1 ounce at each feed. i am frustrated and worried . i need to hear success...
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  • @llli*v0mich01's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:41 PM
    So I went back to work this past Monday. My 9 wo eats about every three hours, so I nurse at 6, pump at 7, he takes a bottle a nine, I pump at 12, he takes his second bottle, then I'm back to him by his next nursing session. Monday I left two four ounces bottles. He gobbled them up and seemed angry when he finished. So Tuesday I left 4.5 ounce bottles, he drank them and was angry when he finished. So today I left 5 ounce bottles. He ate then, and acted like he'd eat more. He currently nurses 6a, bottles at 9a, and noon, then he'll nurse at 3,5,7, and 10, and usually has one night waking where he eats.
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  • @llli*skyanne's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:55 PM
    Thanks guys. :) I met with the LC today. We weighed LO before, during, and after the feed. She only took in 1 oz..... and the LC has no idea why. Latch was great, no tongue tie, I'm producing more than enough milk.... she even said she was surprised how low it was from listening to her swallow. So now I'm at a loss as to what to do...... :confused:
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  • @llli*whitbymom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:15 PM
    Yeah, I have gone bald myself. The thyroid check is a good idea - I had low thyroid function throughout my pregnancy and am now on medication. It helps! I used to think I was lazy...turns out hypothyroidism was responsible for my exhaustion and lethargy, too! My hair loss bothered me so much I picked up a wig and had it styled like my own hair. I wear it when I have to go out. You can try that if you're feeling self-conscious :)
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  • @llli*whitbymom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:11 PM
    Hi there - just chiming in to let you know you're not alone. My lil guy started with separation anxiety at 5 months. If I leave his sight he starts wailing. Strangely, it's gotten a little better with sleep training. I slept on a single bed in the baby's room while he slept in his crib -- or more often in my arms in the feeding/easy chair up until last week. Now, his dad shares the night time checks and feeds him his cereal in the mornings (I was starting to see things from lack of sleep! lol) Now the little guy is reaching for Dad at times and tolerates my absence for short periods as long as his dad is there. We're also working on getting the baby to bond with a stuffed animal; we hope that will help, too.
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  • @llli*whitbymom's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:53 PM
    Hi all, I've just been to the family doctor for a baby check and 6 month vaccinations (a little late due to doctor holidays at Christmas.) My son was 6 lbs at birth. He gained steadily through the first 5 months but stayed in the 10th percentile for weight - to 14 pounds. At his 6 month well-baby he'd only gained 1 pound. This month he gained nothing, remaining at 15 pounds - that puts him in the 4th percentile. He did shoot up 2 inches (from 26 to 28 inches) and popped out 4 teeth this month, though. He's a happy, healthy acting boy. He has one poop, and 6 or more wet diapers per day. He feeds often - I work from home, so I feed him on demand every 2 hours or so. I think he's getting 4 ounces every 4 hours (based on those rare times I bottle feed, he seems to get full at 2 ounces in.) We started solids at the end of 5 months. He loves it. He eats the equivalent of a whole jar of baby food at breakfast and dinner. Iron fortified cereal and fruit in the mornings, meat and veggie at dinner.
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  • @llli*american.honey's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:42 PM
    Sorry ladies for the late response. I appreciate your concerns and efforts to write and share ideas. Yes, we have spoken millions of times it seems. I've been married so long it seems like it never gets better. We've literaly been threw it all and it's been a tough struggle to be in. I am a person of faith and hope, but I've come to realize OKAY, this isn't going to work. I am very well aware kids do add strain to a marriage its part of being parents however, I truly believe if you can work through it as a team and communicate (big key) you will be fine. Something we have never had, COMMUNICATION. I do appreciate both you ladies giving me some advice and letting me vent. It sometimes gets very lonely and it's nice to share and receive. I do understand toddlers switch preferences from mom to dad. However, I believe I am just more sensitive to the situation as things are awkward. I know my baby girl loves mama beyond the moon and the stars. I guess i am just allowing my insecurities get the best of me right now. She does love being with dad, I guess I can be thankful for my BP essing and stop stressing over non-sense. She only has eyes for daddy and brother. They are here 2 favorite men In the whole world. I just wish we were in a different place after so many years it's tiring and exhuasting to be back to square one. I've come to realize so much of how different we are. Stress is never fun or healthy. Anxiety can seriously become an issue in your health and I do...
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  • @llli*jmbl714's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:30 PM
    Hi mamas... I have an almost 7 month old who we co sleep with, and 90% of the time sleeps in my arms for naptime. I love co sleeping and it hasn't been too much of an issue for us. I try to lay him down for a nap so I don't have to hold him, but he immediately wakes up and is upset, but I don't mind it too much to have him in my arms. Our main issue is that he will only be comforted by me for bedtime and then only fall asleep on me while breastfeeding. If I am out to dinner with friends and come home a little late, my little guy is always screaming and refusing my hubby's cuddles. Get him into my arms, and he immediately stops crying. I can tell how frustrating that is for hubby, and I feel really guilty. My hubby tries to cuddle him and plays with him a lot once he gets home from work to get lots of bonding time in. It also makes it tough for us to imagine having him have sleepovers with grandparents (who don't believe in co sleeping.) so that we can have "alone time". Any advice or similar experiences? Are we just going to have to deal with this until he grows out of that need for me at bedtime? When did other co sleeping babies go out on sleepovers with relatives, and how did they manage?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:28 PM
    Thawingsnow, I think you want a you want a standard thyroid panel which should include TSH, T3, and T4 levels. Maybe one other thing? I can't remember! :duck It is definitely true that you may not feel or function normally despite having lab results that are in the normal range! This is especially true if your lab results suggest that you are at the top or bottom of the normal range. Some people will feel fine with (for example) a 0.7 TSH. And others will feel terrible at the exact same level! So if your results were at the top or bottom of the range, I think it's probably a good idea to ask for a repeat thyroid panel, especially because you feel like you are continuing to have suggestive symptoms. ETA: Don't be afraid to DEMAND the tests you think you need, or a referral to a different doctor. If you have significant family history of endocrine disorders, I think it's a good idea to see an endocrinologist. Family practice docs and OB/gyns are- in my experience- somewhat dismissive of thyroid disorders because they don't like treating people based on "feelings". If the lab results say you're fine, they usually feel done, and they send you off with a pat on the head and a "See you in a year!"
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:03 PM
    :ita 100% with MaddieB's excellent advice!
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