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  • @llli*tomom's Avatar
    Today, 03:33 AM
    Hi all, So looking for some thoughts or advice... I returned to work about 2.5 weeks ago. Initially LO started taking to the bottle ok. She'll take anywhere from 1 to 3 oz every 2-3 hrs while I'm gone (usually about 10 hrs). Then when I'm home I just breastfeed her. I have yet to be successful at giving her a bottle myself. We find that when I'm home a bottle is almost impossible even when I'm gone only for a few hours. It's like she knows I'll be back in a little while and she can hold out for the breast. So I'm wondering, should I somehow work on switching her to just bottles and EPing? That way when its more consistent? She cries her head off when I'm not there. It just breaks my heart...and. It must drive my mom ( who watches her) crazy sometimes.I would prefer not to switch to EPing but I want to do what's best for my LO. I don't want her to get all stressed out over eating. But I'm not even sure how to make such a transition since she won't take the bottle from me. A little concerned since we are finishing up a 4 day weekend. Not sure what Monday will bring! Mondays have been difficult since she breastfeeds all weekend. We attempted bottle on Friday when I went out for a little bit, but she only took 1 oz and cried herself to sleep. She is 3.5 months old and seems to be gaining ok (haven't had her weighed yet since I went back to work). But she was chunky to begin with.
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  • @llli*mamacitablanquita's Avatar
    Today, 12:56 AM
    Hi! So I have been exclusively pumping for 2 months now - breastfed and pumped the first 2 months enduring an insane amount of nipple pain and finally just couldnt handle it and began epping. It has definitely been challenging - with 2 other kids in the house, and I soon realized the longer I spread the pumping sessions, the more I would get. I began every 2-3 hours as suggested, and would get about 2 oz on each side in 15 min. Now I pump about every 5 hours and get 5 oz on each side. I think I can do this bc I am large breasted and have lots of storage space. I still have nipple pain - nothing like when he breastfed, but they are still sore. I also feel just in general like someone has punched my breasts, just overall sore and beat up. Is this normal? I have a Medela pump in style advance, double pump. After about 20 min, I can see my nipples turn purple. I am worried about long term tissue damage. On another note - I breastfed my first two kids for 2 years each - I really have not fully accepted that my newborn cant breastfeed and feel like a horrible mom bc of it. I saw three LC's, treated with cranio sacral many times, went to a ENT to check for tongue ties, but this baby spent the first week in the NICU for jaundice and was bottle fed my milk, and when brought home, just destroyed my nipples when he sucked, was an inefficient feeder so would cry after an hour of feeding - finally rented a scale and saw he would only get between 1-4 oz per hour of feeding - not...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:40 PM
    So you pumped 18 ounces during a day with no nursing sessions? Or were there also nursing sessions? You do not mention if any steps were taken to reduce milk production as it seems was suggested by your LC. Were there? I am wondering why you think milk production has been negatively impacted. I know it is hard to trust the transfer from pumping to baby nursing, but if baby is nursing normally at this point there really should be no reason to pump, unless you are giving supplements. Even supplements of mom's own milk means pumping must continue. Anyway if the plan is to exclusively nurse, then I think the direction you want to keep going in is to nurse as much as possible and only pump and supplement as necessary for baby to get enough milk to gain normally. In your first post, you said bottles were being given so you could sleep at night. So this is different than supplements given because they are literally needed for baby to get enough milk. I certainly understand the need for more sleep for mom, I was just suggesting that there might be a way for you to get enough sleep while still nursing more and pumping and giving bottles less. Of course if baby is still unable to transfer milk normally, that complicates the issue. But in the newborn stage, a baby can be transferring milk normally and mom still does not get much sleep because a baby simply needs to nurse night and day. Sometimes supplements can accompany a breastfeeding session and sometimes replace it. What...
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  • @llli*florida2001's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:02 PM
    Yes it is lot of work, seems like I spent a whole day just nursing, meantime I finish it is time to start feed again. To answer the questions 1. I though she has no enough milk from me. After nursing her she was crying and crying..so I tried to supplement her with formula - I was successful, she fall asleep nicely and no more cries. 2. The baby is nursed 8x/day usually every three hours 3. Feel like I am spending too much time nursing and pumping. I am using nipple shield since I left a hospital. The lactation consultant gave it to me, because my nipples were so sore and cracked. 4. sometimes. 5. No for milk supply is there a difference whether nursing or pumping?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:17 PM
    :ita with the above. I'd put pumping before birth pretty solidly in the "bad" column. It can induce labor, which is definitely not what you want at 37 or even 38 weeks. It can give you a false sense of your body's capability to make milk- a mom who doesn't see any results when she pumps might get the idea that her body just can't do it. If you do get some milk, it can give you a sense of permission to supplement, because at least you're supplementing with your own milk. And unnecessary supplementing- even with your own milk!- can have a negative impact on breastfeeding. And lastly, it doesn't help you produce more milk once your baby is born. I would consider pumping under the following limited circumstances: 1. You have discussed your plan with your obstetrician, and the doctor is okay with it. 2. You know that you will probably have a fairly prolonged post-birth separation from the baby. 3. You know that your baby will have a medical need to eat immediately after birth; this might be especially important if you happen to have gestational diabetes and there is a good chance of the baby having issues with low blood sugar.
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  • @llli*alphawoman's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:26 PM
    Do you have any cuts or abrasions, or is the trauma limited to bruising/tenderness?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:33 PM
    Hi and welcome. Babies are just like anyone else, and when they are not feeling well they may not want to eat as much. Since this would typically be very temporary, it is unlikely to be an issue. This has only been going on for 24 hours. If it stops soon, any hit to your production will likely be remedied quickly by baby nursing more when baby feels better. How many times per 24 hours does baby nurse? If you try to encourage baby to nurse longer, or more often, what happens? Wet diapers is good. but do you mean baby has stopped pooping several times a day and is only wetting? Pumping some is not likely to hurt anything unless you are already making more than enough milk. If you wanted to add in some pumping sessions after some of the nursing sessions, that is probably fine. Just be aware of the issue of triggering an overproduction if you pump too often.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:18 PM
    Hi karmaiza, welcome to the forum! Some mothers want to express milk prior to having baby so they can have some of their own special, early milk (colostrum) to give baby IF for some reason breastfeeding is not going normally, and baby needs some supplements while they work on those issues. But this is not typically necessary, because if there are such issues, mom can be expressing milk after the birth to give to baby. Otherwise, I am not aware of any particular reason to express milk prior to giving birth to baby, although if there is some other goal or reason you have please let us know. Prior to having baby and in the first couple of days after a baby is born, what mothers typically have in the breasts is colostrum. Some mothers do produce so called "mature" milk earlier than that, but that would not be the norm. Colostrum tends to be a yellow or goldenish color, or can look white or clear. It is thicker than "mature" milk, and it is available in very small amounts at a time. This colostrum is typically all a brand newborn needs and has many properties that are very good for the brand newborn. The thing is, because it is kind of thick and comes in small amounts at a time, many moms find that pumping some out, before or after baby is born, does not work as well as hand expression. So if you think expressing some milk prior to baby is important, OR, if you want to learn how to get milk out after baby comes in case there are any issues, I think you might try hand...
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  • @llli*pioneermama's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:56 PM
    My 14 month old grabbed my nipple and jerked!:cry This was yesterday, and I'm still in pain...suggestions? anything to relieve the pain...
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  • @llli*lireland's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:14 PM
    My 3 week old has been a champion nurser and has finally established a good milk supply. Unfortunately, he caught a mild cold from his big sister. He does NOT have nasal congestion, but his nursing over the last 24 hours has sucked! (no pun intended). He asks to be fed every 2-4hrs (as usual) but is not drinking much milk and I am only hearing him swallow for a fraction of what he usually does. Still making wet diapers. My main concern is my milk supply. Should I trust that it will be okay or should I be pumping??? Thanks in advance!
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  • @llli*karmaiza's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:45 PM
    I am 37 weeks pregnant. I am due to deliver in about two weeks. I am scheduled a c-section because of previous c-sections. I am wondering if pumping before delivery is good or bad. I want to have the basics down that way I will know what to expect from nursing. I have three children and never had a support team to help me BF so I just never done it. I really want to BF this time. What are your thoughts on early pumping?!?!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:13 AM
    Good about weight! I am not happy doctor could not recognize or admit the obvious, that there was a scale or human error with the weight checks somewhere.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:25 AM
    Okay, so let's work out whether or not that's necessary! What you're doing is a lot of work, right?! So, some questions for you: 1. What made you start supplementing? 2. How many times in 24 hours does the baby nurse? 3. How does nursing feel? 4. Is the baby sleepy at the breast? 5. Is the baby jaundiced at all?
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  • @llli*florida2001's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:34 AM
    hi, I am using electric pump Medela. Baby is being breast fed , plus bottle fed (breast milk) plus if she is still hungry I supplement with formula.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:25 AM
    :ita with MaddieB. I just want to add that a baby who is generally healthy and well-fed will not starve over the course of a single evening. If she is temporarily turning down the breast, it's okay. Some things that help with evening fussiness: - White noise- radio static, heartbeat and breathing sounds - Trip outside. Something about the change in light quality, wavelength, intensity... If it's too cold to go out, taking baby over to the window may help. - Calm house. As evening falls, turn the lights, tv, and stereo down or off. - Motion. When fussiness strikes, try a stroller ride, swing, rock in a rocking chair, etc. - Water. Try giving baby a warm, soap-free bath in the sink. The running water used to work (temporary) miracles on my kids. I think the keys to colic/evening fussiness are, one, remembering that this is a temporary stage that it will pass, and two, doing whatever it takes to buy yourself 5 minutes of calm at a time. No soothing technique you try is likely to work long, so just keep changing it up!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:11 AM
    2 oz is a completely normal amount to pump per session, particularly with such a young baby. On average, new babies take about 2 oz per feeding, making up for the small size of the average feeding by feeding very frequently. 10-12 (or more!) feedings per day are normal at this age. That being said, I just took a look back at your previous threads and it looks like you're worried about low supply and low pump output. What sort of pump are you using and at this point is the baby being fed exclusively via bottle, or is she also at the breast?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:06 AM
    :ita with the excellent advice above!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:01 AM
    I noticed an uptick in my weight when my kids got to the 1 year mark. They were nursing a little less and the "starving she-wolf" eating patterns that I had picked up when they were newborns suddenly weren't doing me any favors. One thing that made a huge difference with my weight, after baby #2, was an undetected thyroid problem. If you haven't had your thyroid checked during the pstpartum year, I strongly suggest doing so.
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  • @llli*florida2001's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:43 AM
    hi, what is normal output I should pump in one session? I'm pumping close to 2 oz, but baby seems to want more. She is 6 lb 5 oz. I added 1 oz formula and seems like that's the amount she needs. I'm pumping every 2-3 hours. thank yoou
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 27th, 2015, 11:35 PM
    Are the flailing, on and off, panicky nursing sessions also when baby "clucks"? Are those sessions typically sessions that come after a longer period of not nursing? Is the positioning baby in typically different at the calmer sessions than the less calm ones? Any other correlations or patterns you can see?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    November 27th, 2015, 11:18 PM
    No I do not think solids helped at all. And we only did rice cereal briefly because it caused nearly immediate constipation in my son. GERD tends to get better around/after 6 months because baby is sitting up on their own more, or at least can be placed in a sit and stay there. Baby can move on their own more in general,- scoot, roll, even start to crawl. They can also easily and safely roll onto their side for sleep if they choose. All if this helps things go in the right direction when it comes to digestion. The best food for a baby with GERD is breastmilk, and the best way for a baby with GERD to be fed is at the breast. Nursing at the breast gives a baby frequent small meals which is very important. Nursing at the breast is also comforting. And breastmilk is the most soothing substance going down and the least irritating coming back up. As an adult who has GERD, and suffered for years before starting to take Prevacid. I can tell you that meds - at least PPIs- do work. The problem is that there is so little we know about long term use in general, and especially how they work in infants, what the dose should be...and unfortunately I do think GERD meds are way way over prescribed for infants. But I also think that if a baby is truly in frequent pain and nothing else is working meds can make sense. It is a very hard call.
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  • @llli*caraleeann's Avatar
    November 27th, 2015, 09:34 PM
    Good reads, thanks. Yes nipple pain is new, but I think you're right that it might be a latch issue. Sometimes he slips and is on the nipple, so I need to be more vigilant about getting him over nipple. It's not bad enough to stop nursing just hurts when he initially gets over it. Will try some of the ideas to help my plug. Appreciate it!
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