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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 11:28 AM
    have you talked to local lll? What about the book The Womanly Art of breastfeeding?? You are unfortunately laboring under some incorrect assumptions. These are common even where there is good breastfeeding support, so you are not alone. These are: 1) that 1.5 ounces is not enough for a single feed. News to me. Babies may take much less or much more at a normal nursing session, but even if this is the total a baby got every nursing session, If a baby nurses often enough, this IS enough. But it does not matter, because 2) what you pump does NOT tell you accurately what a baby gets when he nurses. What you pump ONLY tells you what you pumped - it is NOT an appropriate or accurate measure of what a baby gets when he nurses nor of overall milk production. It is some information, but not nearly enough. 3) that baby seeming hungry "after nursing" means baby needs more to eat or they will starve or go hungry. If a baby does not settle after nursing, it is just as likely baby simply needs to nurse longer or be settled another way, or both. 4) Weight gain is the moat accurate and clear measure of whether baby gets enough. You only told us about one week of gain, so an entire weight gain history might help me understand better why everyone is assuming baby is not getting enough milk and needs supplements. But in that week, baby gained TWICE the average gain for a newborn. Even if this is on supplements, doesn't this tell you something? That maybe baby is being ...
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  • @llli*lovebabymomma's Avatar
    Today, 10:49 AM
    Hi, I found this thread and joined the site because I've had a similar experience and wondered how the original poster is doing now. If you could please let me know what worked for you I would be so appreciative! I've had insomnia a few nights per month since about four months postpartum. I tried antidepressents and ativan - all of which put me in the ER, almost killed me, made things so much worse, and I nearly lost my milk supply. I'm now a year postpartum and still going through what I believe is hormonal insomnia. Only difference is my son has always woken many times a night (12 on average) and I cosleep. We've tried other sleep arrangements but this is what works best for us. I don't see my son weaning anytime soon as he nurses the same as he did as a newborn and it's a sleep association for him. When I have the insomnia I cant fall asleep at all until early morning, have hot sweats on and off at night and then when I finally fall asleep my son wakes me up. It's so hard. I believe my insomnia is hormonal and linked to my body trying to have a period. I've been writing down when it happens for months now. In the months after my son was first born I had anxiety but no longer have that going on...just this incredibly frustrating insomnia. I'm already so sleep deprived that it's bad having this insomnia on top of that. I'm also wondering if I were to wean soon if my hormones would balance and insomnia would resolve? The other thing is I still have the rare high risk...
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  • @llli*ruchiccio's Avatar
    Today, 10:18 AM
    When my baby has a stuffy nose and he has to nurse, I try to stimulate a letdown first and like this he has instant reward when he latches on. Otherwise he wouldn't bother sucking enough to even get a letdown. Also I use the bulb aspirator because he can't breathe normally while nursing otherwise.
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  • @llli*wendycity's Avatar
    Today, 10:16 AM
    Thanks for everyones input, it is reassuring to hear other peoples experiences. My significant other and I both love having our son in bed with us. We will not worry as much and just go with the flow (no pun intended). I'll take a look at the books you all suggested, and take our time getting him into his own bed, I'm sure eventually we will miss having him in our bed more than he will.
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Today, 10:05 AM
    Do you just bring 2 bottles to daycare then? Or do you split the two session supply into 3 bottles? I am worried that baby will starve if I give her 2 bottles instead of 3.
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Today, 10:03 AM
    Thanks for the response. It hasn't actually happened yet. I just want to know in case it does. It's a typical freezer with frozen food and ice cubes. If I have to toss the frozen milk, I'll have to use formula until I can pump enough for daycare (should be just a day if I am lucky). And I will lose whatever extra that I saved up, so I will also have to supplement with formula for the days I cannot pump enough at work.
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  • @llli*k.momma014's Avatar
    Today, 09:49 AM
    Hi Ladies, i had my first little princess July 2014 and i was breastfeeding up until 3.5 weeks when i went back to work (I know it was early but we needed the money). Anyway, i do not feel complete. I hate bottle feeding my baby (nothing against it either), but it is expensive and i feel i lost out on a special bond with her. I have a medela instyle pump and i tried pumping and pulled sticky dots out of my nipples and had to stop because it was hurting and one of my nipples was bleeding. I do not know if LO can still latch, i have tried but she gets mad. I WANT TO BF AGAIN. I miss it, but i work four days a week, i have wednesdays and weekends off and i do not get to see LO from about 7am to 5pm then we do not get home until 6pm. Is there a way to exclusively bring back my milk while working?
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  • @llli*soblessed's Avatar
    Today, 09:15 AM
    Just the info i was wanting! Yes ive read about having dad give the bottle. Plus it lets them bond. Yes i will print those out and give to her. She has been a sitter for 10 yrs and i have known her for a lifetime so im hoping she has had some babies she has pace fed but we will see! I work 3 days a week from 745-630 twice a week then 645-530 give or take the 30 mins at the end of the day. Just depends on how slammed we were that day. I am going to go today to get some bags and i think shields? The things that i attach to me to pump. Lol i have to get a bigger size evidently..
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  • @llli*soblessed's Avatar
    Today, 09:08 AM
    All is going well! Besides fighting sleep that nest is great. He sleeps better as do i near each other.
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  • @llli*soblessed's Avatar
    Today, 09:04 AM
    My son acts like this when he is really tired and is fighting sleep. Great fun.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 07:31 AM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby! How awesome that you have come so far in such a short time. Going from 20 ml per day to 5 oz per day is HUGE! And so is getting baby to the breast. The fact that your son so willing to nurse puts you way ahead in the relactation game, as does the fact that you are using all the right tools and doing pretty much all the right things. I know pumping is just rotten, especially when your effort is tripled- you're not just pumping, you're also nursing and bottlefeeding. But if you can bear to slip in a few more sessions during the day, and (please don't hate me for saying this) overnight, you will get more milk faster. The more you pump, the more you will make. Instead of sticking to an every x number of hours schedule, you might want to try slipping extra pump sessions in when you have time. Baby's down for an hour-long nap? Pump. Baby just went to bed? Pump twice before you go to bed, or pump for a much longer time than you usually would. You also may want to slip in some power pumping sessions. In power pumping, you pump for 10 minutes rest for 10, pump for 10, rest for 10, and then pump once more for 10 minutes. This supposedly mimics the way babies feed and boost supply during a growth spurt. Using an SNS is tricky. I found it helpful to use a lot of masking tape. If I taped the tube down at various places along its length, there was less likelihood of my baby getting her arms in it and ripping...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 07:16 AM
    Print out some information on paced bottle feeding (http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/feeding-tools/bottle-feeding/) and discuss paced feeding with the babysitter. Send lots of small bottles (think a mix of 1-3 oz portions) rather than a few large ones (this reduces overfeeding and forces the caregiver to pause the feeding even if she wasn't going to). Stick to the standard of sending about 1.5 oz of milk per hour of separation. 18-20 oz is on the high side, unless you intend to be gone for about 12-13 hours. It's fine to send some extra milk- some days your child will probably eat more than the 1.5 oz/hour standard, particularly during growth spurts. But IMO you want to start the caregiver out with a more typical amount and send the extra frozen, so that it takes effort to go get more. Babies often resist taking bottles from mom. Why would they want a silicone nipple when they know mom has the real thing just millimeters away, right? So it may help to have dad or some other caregiver offer that first bottle.
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  • @llli*soblessed's Avatar
    Today, 06:48 AM
    Hello mammas!! So i am to begin pumping next week per the consultant i see. She told me to start pumping just once a day and use that for one feeding a day so that i can get my little one introduced to a bottle. She advised a slow flow nipple as well. She said to start on dec 27th but i personally think i would feel better to do it a few days earlier just to be on the safe side. I go back to work jan 5th and am supposed to pump 3 times a day so that he will have a continuing supply at the sitter. She also said to send 18-20oz with him to be on the safe side since he is eating about every hour to hour 1/2. Im hoping that it wont be too stressful on him introducing a bottle. Thats my biggest worry. Any tips or suggestions?
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Today, 05:34 AM
    You have been given some sub-par support from people who should be knowledgable about breastfeeding (but often, unfortunately, still aren't), and it sounds as if the whole hospital environment and hours/days right after birth didn't grant you and baby the smoothest start to your breastfeeding journey. All of that is a systemic problem, is very very real, and perhaps later down the line you'll want to do something about it, because you deserve better, your babe deserves better, and all the others who are interacting with those same care providers deserve better too. But there is no time for that right now, or at least, there is no way to go back and change the support that you have already received, so I won't dwell there. If it is a helpful framework-- maybe you will consider continuing a while longer and reevaluating at a set point (say, breastfeed for two months, or six weeks, or x-number of weeks/days more), and then decide then what you want to do, so that your decision can be fully YOURS, and not something that feels like something that was decided FOR you. Because, mama, it doesn't sound like you are not producing enough milk, if that is what you feel like the central issue is. It sounds like your body has, atleast in a large part, so far triumphed over the bad advice and difficult environment. Maybe your supply has taken a small hit from the supplementation thus far, but it sounds like you are still in a place where just getting back on the nursing train could...
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  • @llli*oloughlins's Avatar
    Today, 02:21 AM
    Hi I'm just wondering if anyone would have some advice for me. My son was born on 3rd November (he's 6 weeks old). I had a complete fear of breastfeeding so I started with formula straight away. However when he was 4 weeks old, I was doing skin to skin with him and he started rooting. I realised then that there was nothing to be scared of. And also the formula has being causing a lot of prom em for him (excess gas, reflux)My milk had nearly dried up (I managed to express one drop that night). I started researching relactation. I attended the post natal breastfeeding support group 2 weeks ago and they got him to latch on straight away! I was so delighted, especially as he's never latched on before. I rented the symphony madela hospital grade pump and bought the madela SNS also. The sns worked well for a few days but he kept getting his arms caught up in the tubes. For the past 2 weeks this has been my routine: Putting him to the breast before every feed. Pumping after every feed. (Every 3hrs during the day and once overnight) Taking Motillium and Fenugreek to boost supply. Skin to skin and baby wearing. I'm am now producing 5oz a day (that's an increase from about 20mls I got the first day I used the pump.
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  • @llli*mommymoru's Avatar
    Today, 01:20 AM
    The lactation consultant only said 'good job' when we went in the other day. But that was so frustrating because I hadn't pumped in about five hours so they were engorged and I was told not to feed him while on the medicine I was given for my cold. So there were some issues there with amounts she saw me feed him at the time. Normally, I'll feed for 20-30 minutes, switching breasts when he lets go and if he still shows signs of hunger after a few minutes of being down, I would give him milk like they had me do in hospital. Usually that was between 40-50 ml per feed and was almost every feed. During the three days I was on medication, I strictly bottle fed formula and that was about 80ml per feed for three days. I got some advice from a close friend back home and she suggested pumping to see how much I'm actually producing per feed. I just did that and pumped out about 40ml/1.5 ounces. That's about half of what he should be getting per feed. I timed the pumping for 1.5 hours after his last feed on my breasts to get an estimate since newborns tend to eat 1.5-2 hours from what I've read/been told. If I wait three hours, I may have more milk, but I don't know if his tummy will last three hours to receive more or not. I just don't know how to produce more milk. And I'm just beyond frustrated with the supplementing formula problem. I specifically requested no formula to be used at the hospital and, granted the first feed had to be since I had a c-section, the rest of...
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  • @llli*avabelle's Avatar
    Today, 12:31 AM
    I have an almost 11 week old who has struggled to breastfeed from the beginning. She had posterior tongue tie (divided at 3 weeks), a high spoon shaped palate, a more recessed than usual jaw and smaller than usual chin. I have inverted nipples but can easily pull them out (I am still nursing my 2.5 year old) Her suck was weak and dysfunctional. A slight heart murmur has been found and her paediatrician wonders if she has a narrower than usual airway related to the recessed jaw. She was an incredibly sleepy baby for the first 4 weeks - fell asleep after a few sucks each time I put her to the breast. For the first 3 weeks I essentially expressed into her mouth - she was unable to stimulate letdowns by herself except on 3 notable occasions. Her weight gain was slow. After her TT division she became much sleepier than usual; we tried to syringe/ cup/ sns/ bottlefeed her to get milk into her but she didn't wake. She was admitted to hospital eventually for poor intake and tube fed. We were discharged from hospital trying her on the breast and topping up by (a fast flow) bottle of EBM (she originally was unable to take the bottle as she had so little suck).
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  • @llli*lauracooley's Avatar
    Today, 12:05 AM
    Wow. That's actually a great idea and I'm sure many people will find this very helpful. Such contribution will lessen the burden of some people. In an economy like this, a lot of people have their expenses budgeted to the penny making it really difficult when prices start to increase. Sometimes, you still need a payday loan cash loan so you can pay for the food bill this month. It is very important to have the quick cash since food expenses are growing a ton, particularly on things such as milk and cheese. With the milk that you're going to donate, it will help a family for a day or two. But I sure hope that prices will go down so people will not be so stressed when it comes to budgeting for food.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:41 PM
    'reflux' (painful burps, pain laying down, lots of spit up) with two kids, medicated one and not the other. What helped most in both cases was: held baby more or less upright more or less most of the time, but ALWAYS after nursing for at least 30-60 minutes. frequent nursing sessions
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:13 PM
    Mommal is right, the official line is milk that has defrosted milk should be used asap and should not be refrozen. However, several years ago a study was done where they looked specifically at what happens if frozen milk defrosts (for just such a situation as a power outage) and refreezes and the results are less clear that discarding the milk is always needed assuming milk stayed reasonably cold. See this article: http://kellymom.com/bf/pumpingmoms/milkstorage/frozen-milk-power-outage/ Here is what she says in the linked article:" However, there is some information on refreezing human milk. A 2006 study looked at the effects of refreezing previously frozen milk (Rechtman, Lee, & Berg, 2006). The researchers used donor milk that had been expressed by mothers without following any special sanitary guidelines. The frozen milk was thawed overnight at refrigerator temperature, separated into batches, then refrozen in separate batches and thawed for a second time to room temperature. At this point, different batches were (1) kept at 46°F/8°C for 8 or 24 hours; (2) kept at 73°F/23°C for 4 or 8 hours; (3) exposed to multiple freeze-thaw cycles of various lengths; and (control) kept at -4°F/-20°C. Vitamin content was adequate for all the refrozen samples, and none of the sample batches that had been refrozen had unsafe levels of bacteria." Can you call the power company and find out how long power was actually out? What else was in the freezer? are you worried about those...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:49 PM
    Human breastmilk is the biologically normal food for the human infant, including the infant digestive system. Frequent pooping, as is common with breastfed babies is thus biologically normal. It is well known that formula fed babies have less frequent poops generally speaking. This is not a plus for formula. Spitting up is normal in infants both formula fed and breastfed. Yes it has actually been studied. if 400 grams is roughly 14 ounces as my online converter tells me, and baby gained that in 7 days, then your baby is gaining well above average and probably does not require supplements. What did the doctor say about that very rapid gain? And how much formula was baby getting? This is absolutely terrible advice. A baby who is gaining twice the average is not hungry. But babies nurse for many reasons aside from hunger and it is important that they do so. Formula supplements, given when not needed, cause many breastfeeding problems. If this is the typical advice moms are getting where you live, it is a wonder anyone breastfeeds.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:42 PM
    Have you tried adjusting her and your positions? While this behavior does not sound particularly alarming, I think whenever nursing hurts consistently it is a problem.
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  • @llli*sweetbabyjames's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:24 PM
    Dh and I live 1700 miles away from family. We are very limited on babysitters. Last weekend we just took baby along. Lol, went out around 6, nursed him and solids at 6:30 at the restaurant, long car ride (he fell asleep), went and walked around our local downtown, dessert and home all while he slept. It was great. Then home for bath and bedtime nursing. Then sexy time for dh and I.
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  • @llli*cutiemark85's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:27 PM
    "making biscuits " is what we call it around here. She does actually do that, that I've noticed and have no problems with.. but after a while she will start thrashing. least that's what it's coming across as. with her unlatching and relatching and pulling, it gets pretty painful. if I take her away to give myself a breather, she'll cry. Most of the time I just endure because I figure she's doing what she needs to do. But it got me wondering enough to ask about it here.
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:22 PM
    Definitely drink more water. All that liquid in the milk has to come from somewhere. I go through at least 5 litres of water a day. It helps to always have water nearby. Buy a giant water bottle, keep it filled, and close by.
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  • @llli*hayashi's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:18 PM
    What if no one was home when that happened, then electricity came back before anyone got home. How do you know if frozen milk is still good? Anyone got experience like that?
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