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  • @llli*lcven315's Avatar
    Today, 04:39 AM
    Hi and congratulations! I have no advise for you being that I am 6 weeks behind you with my preemie twins, but I'll be checking this thread to hear about some solutions. My twins were born 25 wks 3 days so the pump and I are dear friends. I cannot wait for the day that I do not need it either:) Thanks for the post!
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  • @llli*rosesmum's Avatar
    Today, 04:22 AM
    No advise, but I can relate! I'm a FTM and My baby started doing this at 4 weeks also ( she's 5 weeks today). It was very uncomfortable physically and mentally, but so far the breasts are slowly starting to adjust and I have not had supply issues because of it. I'm currently sitting here typing with baby skin to skin on my breasts, which she is sleeping on. It has been 4.5 hrs since she last nursed...I try nursing her in her sleep, but that doesn't work for us, she clamp her mouth down tight.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 02:55 AM
    weight about 14lb 10oz he is growing otherwise and looks healthy. And is meeting developmental milestones at or way ahead of schedule. He is mobile if not totally hands/knees crawling yet (but probably won't be long.) sits up, pushes himself up to sitting. stands with assistance. babbles and sings/screams to us. fine motor skills pretty good too, I expect he will be starting to be able to feed himself solids shortly.
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  • @llli*rainbowgoblin's Avatar
    Today, 12:36 AM
    Thanks for the suggestion. I'm in New Zealand, but we have a yogurt brand we all like (full fat, no crap , just milk and culture). We've been making banana yogurt smoothies for awhile, and have started adding a bit of cow's milk, and he's fine digesting it. Cheese is fine too. We haven't had much luck getting him to drink cow's milk on its own yet, but he likes it frothed.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:22 AM
    Well, I am so sorry about the fenugreek and your babies reaction. Most breastfeeding mothers make plenty of milk with no "milk making" herbal supplements. And taking fenugreek while pregnant is unlikely to have done anything to help with production, that is just not how it works. But that is water under the bridge at this point. I have never heard of fenugreek causing such a severe reaction in a baby, many mothers take it without issue. In any case, it is frustrating your milk had to be tossed but even having that milk now would not help in terms of keeping your milk production up for as long as you wish to breastfeed. Know what I mean? There are two issues when dealing with separations and milk production. One is, pumping enough for baby to eat while you are gone. The other is maintaining good enough milk production for the length of time you wish to nurse your baby. Some moms find that supplementing because they are not able to pump enough to leave baby is needed, but they can still take steps to maintain enough milk production so they can nurse their child longer overall. Both your milk and the physical act of nursing are beneficial healthwise- to baby and mother. There is nothing to indicate that a baby having 100 percent breastmilk for 6 months, and then going on formula, is 'better' than a baby having some formula at four months but nursing until a year. Know what I mean? I know what I would chose, if I had to chose. I would chose longer duration of breastfeeding,...
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  • @llli*anhcow266's Avatar
    Today, 12:15 AM
    Thank you ladies for responding. We have had my lo be bottle fed by my husband each night since my post just to see if he will give in and slowly get used to being bottle fed. He will take the bottle from my husband with some struggle now. We are hoping for continued progress, if not, I may just give the sippy cups a shot. Thank you so much!
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  • @llli*esther2013's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:30 PM
    Typically the recommendation is 1-1.5 ounces per hour separated, so ten ounces for nine hour day sounds fine to me! Just freeze the extra for later :)
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  • @llli*esther2013's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:09 PM
    What is your little guy up to for weight? I don't want to worry you, but my guy gained most of his weight before 6 months. At six months he plateaued and has only gained two and half pounds in the last year. His Dr isn't worried either, its just his growth pattern. Anyways, my point is I wouldn't be so tied to the number on the scale. Is he getting longer? More active? Babbling? That sort of thing!
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:57 PM
    Gave in and let DH give DS Some expressed milk via bottle today. Feeling very disappointed that I don't think I'm going to get any EBF time without dealing with worry about weight gain and all the pumping.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:34 PM
    Kellymom has a good article on healing sore nipples. Sorry I can't link it right now but the site is www.kellymom.com If the wound is open, a little otc antibiotic ointment may help prevent infection. Some IBCLCs suggest gently bathing injured nipples with mild soap and water 2 times a day for the same purpose. Lanolin is usually helpful when nipples need healing due to an off latch. It needs to be applied after every nursing session and can be in a very thin layer. If it gets cold it can be hard and stiff, so melt it by manipulating it for a bit in your fingers first. Some mothers prefer a different nipple ointment and that is fine, any ointment made for the purpose should provide the moist barrier that will promote healing. but purified lanolin is very often effective has been used since the 50s at least.. But fixing the latch is key. Nice all in one article on latch and positioning (also important for comfortable latch) ideas http://feedthebabyllc.com/latch-and-positioning/
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:21 PM
    Yes, I did. And it was a little confusing, so let me tell you what I am hearing you say. You continue to have a very large lump/plug/something in your breast that increases in size between nursing sessions. Even when baby nurses well, this does not go away entirely, but it gets smaller. Taking a longer time between sessions seemed to encourage baby to nurse longer so it made the plug smaller, but it did not go away. Even with pumping, it does not go away. So, here is what I am thinking. If that is a plug it is a really nasty plug that is very hard to be rid of. These DO happen. You are still routinely getting very full, and your baby's weight gain is fast. These suggest overproduction. Block nursing will decrease your overproduction. Ultimately I think reducing production might well be helpful.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:21 PM
    As mamamia says, But I'm going to re-iterate one more thing, demand feeding is not JUST when baby feels the need but also when mom feels full she may offer to feed before baby cues. IT IS OK for you to wake your sleeping baby if YOU feel it is time to nurse. Actually you might not even need to totally wake the baby, many will nurse in their sleep quite well. (of course right now you may be relishing the extra bit of unbroken sleep.)
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:13 PM
    Call infant risk, they can be reached at (806) 352-2519 normal business hours Central time I think.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:00 PM
    Can you talk to your supervisors? You really do need to take care of yourself (drink water, use the rest room and pump.) You don't have to pump for very long necessarily (ten minutes will even make a huge difference) and if you have an extra cooler you can put the pump parts in you don't necessarily have to wash everything after every pumping session. No amount of herbs or even medications are going to make much of a difference in your supply if you are not removing milk from your breasts it sends the signal to your body that it is making too much milk and your supply goes down. With your long commute, I definitely encourage you to look into pumping as you drive. Might seem odd but with a hands free bra and a nursing cover you can pump in the car on the way to/from school and probably make a huge difference in your supply as well as the amount of expressed milk you can provide your baby. If you were to manage to even pump 2 times at school as well as during part of the drive to/from you would probably be in really good shape. I would recommend increasing night time feeding. Do you go to bed at 9 pm when baby does? If not, try dream feeding before you go to bed. Night time nursing is the savior to many working moms, the more baby eats at night the less pressure there is to provide lots of milk for daycare. It also helps your supply to nurse extra at night. Co-sleeping is the only way many working moms can manage to get enough sleep and nurse. You are a...
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  • @llli*ngs215's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:42 PM
    I lost a lot of weight when I was BF'ing my first. I was 10 pounds below my pre-pregnancy weight at my 6 week checkup (so lost 35 pounds) and lost another 20 pounds by the time I went back to work. And another 10 over the next year. My thyroid tested fine. And let's just say that I could afford to loose the weight. I think in my case, it really was the breastfeeding. My son is now 2 and I swear he often eats more than DH and I do! In hindsight, I really wonder how much milk he was getting from me! I am sure it was more than average. Just to warn you, as he transitioned to solids and I stopped pumping at work, the weight started to come back. And I am now BF'ing #2 and am not loosing weight at all.
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  • @llli*stephanie4pm's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:12 PM
    I am a student, I have a medela pump'n'style, I commute an hour to school, I drive to and from in heavy traffic. Gauge sleeps through the night (9pm-5 or 6am) and nurses 1-2 times before I go to school, after school he nurses 2-3 times. On my 2 days off a week I feed him by demand which is usually one side every 3 hours and the other side is pumped. My mom watches him, and because my school is so far I don't have any options of her coming up to the school for me to feed him. I was on the fenugreek before I even had him because I was scared I wouldn't be able to produce enough milk. He had such bad GI problems from it that he got an umbilical hernia. I did dump the milk, but not after trying to give him 1 bag of the milk with fenugreek and the rest w/o as well as trying to mix it with other bags. Any sight of fenugreek sends him into shrilling screams that never end. I am separated from him from 7:45am until about 5:30-6pm. I cannot arrange another leave of absence, and the only other schedule I have available is 3 12 hour days in a row (which would be closer to 15 hour days with commute) vs. Tuesday-Saturday 9-4:30 I feel like I am failing at being a mom. When I'm at school he eats 12oz and I am only pumping 4-5 when I even get the chance to. On a good day I can feed him 4-5 times and pump 8oz. I am a cosmetology student and I am doing hair all day, I barely get time to drink water or use the rest room. What other supplemental options are there then formula? What could...
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:00 PM
    I don't really have a definitive answer for you. Why not refrigerate the second 100 ml bottle that you don't expect to use at the next feeding right away instead of leaving it out? If not planning to freeze, why bother with bags?
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  • @llli*elliebelle's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:28 PM
    I have soreness/pain on the right side of my right breast, in between the nipple and the armpit. It has been there for about 3 days now, and no amount of nursing/pumping/massaging seems to help. It it a consistent pain, and I'm not sure how to fix it. Is this a plugged duct? Also, on an unrelated note, my pediatrician does not recommend that I take my migraine prescription (fioricet) while nursing. My prescribing doc does not have any alternatives, and recommends excedrin (which upsets my stomach). Are there any nursing moms out there who are able to take any migraine prescriptions? I'm very nervous relying on just tylenol/advil for the next 10 months!!
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:44 PM
    sorry for bothering too much. did u see my last post in first page of this thread?
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:33 PM
    Well I've ordered some Vitamin D for me and D drops and Iron Drops for him. I live in a location where the sun is pretty intense but I don't spend that much time unprotected out in the sun lately though I've been trying to take walks to the mailbox in the mornings, I'm not doing it naked so both of us could be a bit low on Vit D and I've been reading how supposedly babies are supposed to be given Vid D supplements and we were never told to do that. And since we haven't been going out to get sun daily and the pre-natal vitamins only have 400 IU and I'm probably only getting another 300 IU from milk and yogurt daily.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:24 PM
    For the Week before the weight gain was again only about 2.2 oz for the week. And I'd been having trouble getting much supplement into him. Granted a trip to the Inlaws did happen that week which usually puts us off for a day or so too.
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:34 PM
    thanks maddieb. i will talk about this.
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:28 PM
    A multivitamin shouldn't do any harm so not sure there is a downside of trying it. How much was the weight gain for the week before you stopped supplements, is there much difference? His feeds do seem small and frequent. Not sure how normal that is - or whether it hints at an underlying issue still :(
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:37 PM
    Who takes care of baby while you are away? Could they bring baby to you ever? Or come with you to school? Have u looked at laws regarding pumping that may apply to you? Breastfeeding mothers have rights and those rights are not void because you are working or in school. Can you arrange leave of absence or less demanding schedule? You are the mom. If you do not want to introduce solids yet, that is your call. Even if supplements are needed, formula is not neccessarily the only option. Did you already throw out the milk? There is a big difference between a couple feedings a day of milk pumped when you were on fenugreek and all feedings being that milk. Why were you on fenugreek? Have you always struggled with production?
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  • @llli*noodles610's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:33 PM
    DH and I are discussing how to go about storing milk. I would have to give an example to post the question. I am an EP mom and would pump at 2am. I would then have an output of say 200ml in 2 separate bottles that we leave out at room temperature (our house is set at 73 degrees which is on the cool side since it's summer time). She would then eat 100ml at 5am. But since I'm already up to feed her, I would pump shortly after she eats which I would save for her next feed. Since I have freshly pumped milk, I would bag the other 100ml I pumped at 2am and just refrigerate it and not freeze. The question/debate we are having is, once we warm up that bag, how long will it be good for? We know that room temp milk is usually only good for 5-6hrs. But since it already sat out for at least 3hrs by the time I put it in the fridge, would it only be good for another couple of hours after?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:32 AM
    Average gain in first 3 months is about an ounce aday, or two lbs per month. So that gain sounds fast to me. It's not hurting baby any, if baby gains rapidly early on, it will even out later. But fast gain is an indicator of overproduction. There is something called "full drainage and block feeding" that I wonder if it might be appropriate. If you search that term you should find a clinical protocol about this method of reducing production. Before trying it, talk to your lactation consultant.
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  • @llli*rowdybliss's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:25 AM
    Hello, this is my first time posting. My twins were born at 32 w 4 days and are now 6 weeks old, 38 w 6 d adjusted. For the past 6 weeks I have been giving them exclusively expressed breast milk. I was able to produce a very large supply, much more than they need. They last time I did a 24 hour tally I made 85 oz. They are taking somewhere in the 32 oz range now, but probably more. I don't know anymore because now they are nursing well at the breast with a nipple shield and with the exception of a bottle with their vitamins, I have successfully weaned them off of the bottle. Now I would like to wean myself off of the pump but I am nervous about letting my supply drop. My concern is that it won't come back up when it needs to. Anyone have a similar experience and was able to drastically drop your supply down and have it still meet the needs of your growing baby? Also, my other concrrn is that my supply is so big, I worry that they are not getting enough hind milk before I get engorged and have to pump. When I get engorged I get at least 4 oz of fore milk from each breast and they are not taking in that much yet. I have considered pumping before I nurse, although challenging when confronted with a hungry baby or two. Also the more I pump, the longer I will have to continue to pump and I would so love to be free of the pump all together! Can anyone she'd some light on how they addressed these issues?
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