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  • @llli*moredonuts's Avatar
    Today, 12:22 PM
    My toddler is now 2 years old and I am struggling with maintaining breastfeeding while working. I continue to pump at work, but get less and less. I can pump 4x a day for 20 minutes and still only get 8oz. Outside of work he nurses whenever he feels like it (including night). The timing/frequency is variable - it depends on his mood. I'd like to not pump so much but I worry that if I stop pumping that my supply at other times of day. At school he often doesn't finish the milk I send I think he would be fine if I stopped sending entirely but I think he would mind if there was less milk when nursing. He does get frustrated at times when my letdown is slow so I know that he is looking for both milk and comfort when he nurses. How does one successfully maintain toddler nursing without spending all day with the pump?
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Today, 02:23 PM
    So this is what happened today. I nursed him at 6:30 one breast and pumped other 1 3/4 oz. baby woke up at 9;30 AM = 1 3/4oz. I pumped milk 3 3/4 oz baby 11 Am= 1.5 oz Nursed baby(Not so hungry) at 12:45 pm One breast and pumped other 1oz. baby woke up at 3:00 pm =1.5oz. 4:00 pm 1 3/4oz Pumped at 3:30 Pm 3.5 Oz So total baby took little more or less than 6.5oz. and I pumped 10 1/4 oz. I feel he is taking less milk. I didn't pump myself to 2nd let down. He nursed yesterday night like 12:30,3:30 So is that why he is taking less milk?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:13 PM
    Hi again. Interesting you are reporting early fast letdown/overproduction. If I recall the other threads on this correctly, this seems to be a reoccurring theme when there is this type of breast refusal (which I have just decided I am going to unofficially name "awake refusal.") I also know that some LCs have mused that there is way more OP than there used to be, probably due to the pressure on mothers to pump whether it is needed or not, or to pump more than is needed when it IS needed. So could the possible increase in OP that some LCs suspect also be leading to an increase in "awake refusal"? just something to think about. If OP/fast letdown was a contributor to the problem, I assume that is no longer occurring as it would be unusual past the first few months for mom to continue to overproduce. If it is still happening, there are a few different methods for slowing flow or helping baby handle fast flow. Let me know if you need info on that. If baby dislikes feeding laying down- and this would be common, actually- there are many nursing positions to try where baby is sitting up, maybe leaning on mom while mom leans back slightly so baby is tilted up, etc. I had OP and I practically had to have one baby in a completely upright position to nurse when the flow was fast. He was really big and I sat on the couch and let his legs hang down between my legs and held him upright to nurse. Later he straddled one of my legs. There are so many positions to try and the older...
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  • @llli*draaagonfly's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:29 PM
    This has been really helpful, thank you. So much of what you said makes sense with my experience. Firstly the NICU was very focused on weight gain and they kept insisting on formula top ups after nursing, especially in the first couple of days before my milk came in. The pediatrician even wanted to tube feed my (TERM!!) baby because their respiration rate was high. Thankfully the nurses didn't take that recommendation. Continuing after leaving the NICU I was still getting external pressure about weight gain from the midwifery collective. I really agree with you that there are problematic expectations out there in this regard. Then I ended up with oversupply (most likely due to pumping so much for fear of losing my supply because of the formula!), which I had suspected was part of the original problem too. It took a while to figure out what was wrong because I never had blocked ducts or mastitis. It was eventually diagnosed by my midwife. But babe had many instances of choking and spluttering at the breast in those first two months or so. As well, they've pretty much always had an aversion to being held in a lying down position. I am nearly certain this is not due to reflux. They have always slept fine on their back and were happy to lie on the floor on their back (and tummy) to play. I have always gotten the impression that it's just about wanting to look around and have the best view, and to stay awake. Baby has been gaining steadily since 8-10 weeks old and I...
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