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  • @llli*h26's Avatar
    Today, 08:11 AM
    My son is 9.5 months old. At daycare, he has been having three 5 oz. bottles of breastmilk with two meals. The bottles are given close to mealtime. His caregivers at daycare would like to give him two 7-8 oz. bottles instead. Is that reasonable? OK? Can he or should he eat that much in one go? Will he get hungry between bottles? I'm also concerned about waste because they are required to dispose of any milk in his bottle that he doesn't finish.
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  • @llli*piranha10's Avatar
    Today, 04:38 PM
    Hi My 2 week old daughter has had issues with spitting up and not gaining weight faster enough. At 2 weeks she was 4 oz shy of birth weight. My pediatrician prescribed her medication for reflux with the hope that maybe she isn't eating as much because of all the spit up, but it's hard to tell if it's working. She sleeps well during the day and pretty well during the night, so I am constantly needing to wake her up for feelings. Originally, it was my understanding that timing between feelings should be counted from the beginning of one feeding to the beginning of the next. It is also my understanding that it's best to space daytime feelings no more than 3 hrs and night time feelings no more than 4 hrs. So given that my daughter tends to nurse, spit up nurse again (and so on and so on and so on), three hours can pass pretty quickly. Should I be counting differently? Also, I do burp her after feedings and hold her upright for at least 15 minutes and then place her at an incline for a little bit longer. I really just want my girl to gain weight, so if I need to give up sleep to do this, so be it. Thanks in advance!
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  • @llli*mom.2.2.b's Avatar
    Today, 10:42 PM
    I am trying to re-lactate after stopping breastfeeding after 6 weeks. I breastfed for 2 weeks then weaned to formula the third week before completely stopping. I feel extremely lost and frustrated, which is why I stopped in the first place. However, I am trying. I rented a pump and have been trying to pump as often as I can. But I have only been able to pump a max of 6 times a day between baby, work, a seven year old, and of course mommy duties. I am seeing an increase in my milk everyday. Although not much. Im on day seven and can't even pump 5 ml in a day. I am also finding that my breast are becoming sore and achy. Do i just need to release milk? is my flange not the right size? (what the person from loving support said may be the problem) I will pump for 10-15 minuted with no success then successfully hand express milk. Is this normal or would that have to do with the flange size? I have small and flatter nipples so I dont really know how a shield is supposed to fit. All the diagrams I see are of women with large nipples. And I also have large lump in my breast. Could this be a plugged duct? How do I know? Lastly, and most discouraging is my son has ZERO interest in the breast. Will he return? He has a lip tie and possible posterior tongue tie so we are trying to get those corrected which it is even affecting his bottle feeding. (and one of the main reasons we quit.) I hope someone can advise me! Thanks in advance. (Im drinking mothers teas and oatmeal to help supply...
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  • @llli*aydreahnuh's Avatar
    Today, 10:36 PM
    I live in Las Vegas, Nevada and work in a casino. For hours worked I'm only allowed a 30 min break (they break it up into two 15 min breaks) I tried going to pump in that time frame but by the time I walk to the dressing room, set up, pump, clean-up, and walk back to my work station I'm either late or don't pump efficiently. I've asked for extra time but they refuse and enforce disciplinary actions when I return late.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:06 PM
    How wonderful you are still nursing, thanks for updating. You had so many challenges I know your story is an inspiration.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:00 PM
    Hi, congratulations and welcome! This is all correct as far as it goes, but as you are finding, in reality it may not quite work this way. I don't think there is any need to time between feedings at all, except in order to be sure to wake baby to nurse if baby is not nursing often enough over all. I also think that day/night is not at all relevant to a newborn baby. Your baby may well want to nurse more often at night than during the day, and that is perfectly fine and normal. One way to help the sleepy baby nurse more is to hold baby most of the time, avoid pacifiers and swaddling for sleep, and, if you can do so safely, share a safe sleep surface with your baby. Mom being in close, relaxed physical contact with baby as much as possible encourages more nursing. You may have heard of skin to skin, which means holding baby on your chest with both of you unclothed or lightly clothed. You can also try leaning back and holding baby on you close to the breast with easy access. This position (mom reclined, baby on top of mom, tummy to mom) is usually called laid back nursing, but it can be done when baby is NOT nursing as well. Safely snuggled on mom's chest is baby's natural environment. Since more frequent nursing means more milk into baby, usually, It may be more helpful to think of overall nursing frequency, which at this age is a minimum of 10-12 times in 24 hours. Many newborns nurse even more often than that, especially if you count cluster feeds as...
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  • @llli*reena's Avatar
    Today, 07:46 PM
    Thanks for the replies. Alphawoman, I am grateful you told me about the dips in supply. I am on 120 mgs. I have tried to wean down to 90, but never quite got there as something would make me worry and I would up again. I have heard others say they notice slight dips as they wean. I guess right now I am just trying to make it to 12 months. The weight gain has been intense. I have had weight gain all around, but especially in my middle. Before I was pregnant my BMI was 19, now it is almost 26, I am officially overweight. I think I weigh what I did when I was 9 months pregnant. Makes me very sad. But if you would have asked me when I was in the thick of supplementing and pumping like a mad woman, that I could EBF my baby but the only drawback would be weight gain, I would have still jumped at the idea.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 05:49 PM
    In that case, you probably want to reduce the size of the bottles you're sending to daycare. A policy of dumping unfinished bottles combined with huge bottles means wasted milk and unrealistic demands on mom to pump, pump, pump. If this were my baby, I'd start sending a mix of 2-3 oz "feeding" bottles and 1-2 oz "top-off" bottles. That way there's less likelihood of your hard-won milk being sent down the drain. If the daycare complains that feeding your baby is too much work, play your trump card: your baby, your rules.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 05:31 PM
    Ya know, I think I now feel a different way round about that. I feel sorry for the moms who don't make it, I feel like they are missing out.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 05:29 PM
    Just an update, check out my signature for more links to more of the threads in the story...... But DS is now 14 months old and doing great. We struggled through months of poor weight gain and problems with milk supply until I finally got my hands on a supply of domperidone around 5 months and breastfeeding and weight gain have been great since 6 months. I fully intend to continue on to extended breastfeeding, the early months were so tough, I need the reward. http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?122868-DS-is-12-months-old-now
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 05:29 PM
    Just an update, check out my signature for more links to more of the threads in the story...... But DS is now 14 months old and doing great. We struggled through months of poor weight gain and problems with milk supply until I finally got my hands on a supply of domperidone around 5 months and breastfeeding and weight gain have been great since 6 months. I fully intend to continue on to extended breastfeeding, the early months were so tough, I need the reward. http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?122868-DS-is-12-months-old-now
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 05:27 PM
    Just an update, check out my signature for more links to more of the threads in the story...... But DS is now 14 months old and doing great. We struggled through months of poor weight gain and problems with milk supply until I finally got my hands on a supply of domperidone around 5 months and breastfeeding and weight gain have been great since 6 months. I fully intend to continue on to extended breastfeeding, the early months were so tough, I need the reward. http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?122868-DS-is-12-months-old-now
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Today, 04:20 PM
    Hi there, haven't had much time to surf the forum lately, been keeping busy and now with the extended family all flown back to the North, I don't have the handy toddler care anymore. Anyway, an update. Nursing is still going great! I am still on domperidone, 70 mg per day. DS is still only about 22 lb, I know weight gain is supposed to slow down considerably after a year but I'm not sure if we are still on track or not. Does anyone know expected average rates of gain per month for the age range between 1-2 years? The charting site I liked to use doesn't seem to be working again. I think he is still gaining an ounce or two a week if it is averaged out but we haven't been weighing nearly so often anymore. I suppose I should link this thread back to the first few so people can see there is hope and follow the story on. I am definitely planning on continuing breastfeeding through till he is 2 and NOT doing anything to encourage weaning before that time. After two I will likely attempt to get off the domperidone again and otherwise let him wean on his own schedule. Still bed sharing but we might need to get a king size mattress because DS keeps kicking daddy out of bed (he will get in between us and turn sideways and push his feet into daddy till DH decides to go to the couch.)
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 03:37 PM
    Ok then you might need to find out if fed trumps state, not sure about this. But if it truly is that leftovers need to be discarded, that is further reason to REDUCE the amount in bottles, not increase it! What evidence do they have that your child will suddenly start taking almost twice as much at a time? I would also suggest contacting your local breastfeeding coalition and ask about any efforts to change those state regulations that do not differentiate between breastmilk and formula as they should. I would also make sure that 'milk' is clearly identified within the regs as specifically human breastmilk. Sometimes "milk" and "formula" is used interchangeably, as in, "formula milk" or they may actually be referring to 'milk' other than expressed human milk. It is the anti-bacterial properties of expressed human milk that make it entirely safe to put leftovers in the fridge for next feeding.
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  • @llli*h26's Avatar
    Today, 03:17 PM
    I verified the regulation in my state: "Discard leftover milk or formula after each feeding and rinse bottles after use." Source: http://dcf.wi.gov/childcare/licensed/pdf/dcf_p_205.pdf
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:17 AM
    size is irrelevant to required daily or per meal intake. It has long been established that breastfed babies do not require more milk intake as they age (beyond 4-6 weeks.) (meal size may increase as baby ages, and nurses a bit less frequently, but not THAT much) and in fact required daily intake starts lessening as baby starts regularly eating solids or due to the normal growth slowdown as baby approaches one year of age. I agree you need clarification of exactly why this change is deemed necessary by the day care. What is best care when bottle feeding a 9 month old is the same as a 9 week old- smallish meals, given frequently, when the child indicates hunger or thirst, with the total amount each meal varying as child seems to desire when the bottles are given carefully using paced feeding positioning and built in pause techniques, to give the child a chance to stop the feeding when sated. Your day care may not be willing or able to feed your child this way, but that does not make their way healthy or more appropriate. Think about it. Bottles are supposed to be as much like breastfeeding as possible, as breastfeeding is the normal way to feed a baby that is being replaced by bottles when necessary. Is it likely your baby gets 7 or 8 ounces every time baby nurses? If your baby were home with you, would he only nurse twice all day? Also, if your child is eating solids, how much solids overall is your child getting and how much does he nurse when you are together and...
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  • @llli*h26's Avatar
    Today, 08:56 AM
    I should also mention that my kid is big for his age. 94th percentile for height and 65th for weight. So maybe it's to be expected that he'd eat more than other infants his age.
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  • @llli*h26's Avatar
    Today, 08:49 AM
    Perhaps my state has regulations about it. Can anyone point me to the federal regulations (or guidelines, whatever they may be)? How would I go about finding the state regulations? I've been curious about it for a while.
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  • @llli*bsua65's Avatar
    Today, 08:45 AM
    Yay! Have been on the forums a lot less, but wanted to pop on and see how it's going for you! Am glad you've done it :)
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