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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:09 PM
    Not really. I am suggesting you educate the day care in how to properly feed a breastfed baby, according to the experts, perhaps using the information I linked. Yes, that does usually mean smaller feedings and feeding on cue. But it is more than that. It may mean changing someone's entire mindset about infant feeding- and overall care. I think 5 ounces fed every 3 hours as a rule is probably too much, yes, unless there is some reason your baby needs more- poor gain rate, for example, or again, if baby does not nurse overnight. Otherwise, if they are insisting on overfeeding your child, that is a problem on many levels, isn't it? I guess I wonder WHY they are so insistent on this point? Do you have any idea? I always have to wonder what else is going on when a daycare is not able or not willing to meet a pretty simple feeding/care request. What is your routine on the days you work? Is baby typically eager to nurse as soon as you pick her up? Is nursing better or worse those days? When does nursing seem the most problematic? Any particular session? If the daycare is that difficult and you have not already taken your business elsewhere, I assume this care situation is your only option. In that case, again, I would suggest doing what you can to educate them and keep doing all you can to encourage baby to nurse frequently when you are able to be with baby- nights, days off, etc. By keeping your baby viewing the breast as the place to meet their needs- hunger, thirst,...
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  • @llli*ldivanna83's Avatar
    Today, 08:34 PM
    So if she has received 5 oz bottles at day care, you suggest I go back down to 4 and tell day care that she only gets fed when hungry? I'm in such a tough spot bc day care was adamant about feeding her more to the point of her saying I'd have to find someone else if I don't agree with increasing feedings... The whole day care thing has been a struggle and a bit of a nightmare. What do you suggest I pack for bottles for day care? I did not have OP prior to returning to work. There were very random times when she would refuse to nurse prior to returning to work and I could typically associate it with her being too tired to nurse. I did see the paced bottle feeding video and I have shared it with any one who has given her a bottle. I nursed her every 2 hours today on my day off and she did well.
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  • @llli*cmazza22's Avatar
    Today, 07:31 PM
    I am currently nursing my third baby, and just like her brothers, she refuses the bottle. It's happened the same way with each: We started out great, then around 5 weeks, they started refusing, choosing to chew on the nipple instead of suck on it. I then just gave up on the bottle (I'm a stay-at-home mom, so it doesn't really matter). Can anyone give me any suggestions how to help DD take the bottle? She is four months old and hasn't been offered one since she was 5 weeks. When given one, she just chews on the nipple. The reason I'd like her to take a bottle is my cousin is getting married at the end of September, and he has said I cannot bring her (which is frustrating in itself but it's his wedding, so I have to go with his wishes). Normally I just wouldn't go, but if there is a way I can get DD to take the bottle so I can attend, I'm willing to try.
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  • @llli*nap's Avatar
    Today, 12:47 PM
    Thanks for reading and for your reply. I'm striving to be ok and I repeat to myself that I am doing everything I can for my baby. I'm still trying, every day I pump twice at work, which is what my schedule will allow me, I don’t get much, but I thought it's better than nothing. While I'm with her in the evenings/nights I breastfeed on demand. I wrote to Dr. Jack Newman and he recommended me to try domperidone which I started today. I wonder if I could take some herbs too or whether I should try the medication and see the response. I would like some info on increasing pump output, I tried with power pumping and had no results. I wish to continue until she consumes solids and need less milk so I can cover her needs. I'll keep working on me and our breastfeeding (:
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 12:38 PM
    Being played for a fool, eh? :rolleyes: Too bad "working with kids" is not the same as "knowing what is normal when it comes to breastfeeding"! Kudos to you on being the one who is willing to be weird. That's the trailblazer's way. The next mom who is still nursing and pumping at a year may not have the same issues as you- maybe someone will see her with her pump and say "Still doing that? Just like Jen.r24!" And then that future woman won't feel so alone in her decision. :D
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 12:33 PM
    :it's with MaddieB. In particular, I think it's a very good idea to ditch the "eat, play, sleep" 3 hour schedule. That sort of schedule sounds great when you read about it in a book, but it's not how real babies really behave. Real babies might have a schedule that goes more along the lines of "eat, fuss, eat some more, quick cat nap, eat, fuss, poop, fuss, eat, longer stretch of sleep", etc. That sort of pattern is how babies get their required number of feedings per day, and it's how they get lots of attention, soothing, interaction, and closeness to mom's body. The idea that a young baby could or should eat just for food and then play independently- that was invented by people who saw the behavior of intensively scheduled formula-fed babies as the gold standard- which it is not!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 08:31 AM
    good to hear, thanks for the update!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 08:27 AM
    I think your baby is being overfed at the daycare, and fed too much at once. This is linked to breast refusal which is why people have come up with ways to try to prevent this problem. This means baby is fed when baby shows hunger cues and not on a schedule, it means appropriately sized meals, and it often also means adopting a special method of bottle feeding called paced bottle feeding. Your day care probably has no idea about any of this. They will need to be educated. I will post some links below. Size of baby has little to nothing to do with expected intake or average needed intake. Feedings of between 2 and 4 ounces each are the norm for this age. Assuming baby nurses overnight a few times as would be typical at this age, the total amount that is appropriate for a 12 hour separation is between 12 and 18 ounces for the entire separation. Why appropriate amounts, cue feeding and paced bottles are important: If baby is fed more, that can cause disinterest in nursing. If baby is fed large bottles at a time spaced out evenly, baby becomes used to that which is not typical at the breast. If baby is fed with a gravity bottle technique ( how bottles are typically given) with a rapid but steady milk flow, baby becomes used to the milk flowing into baby's mouth with no effort whatsoever from baby in getting the milk to flow and then controlling flow, as baby normally must do at the breast. This is why caregiver feeding method is SO important. It needs to be right or...
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  • @llli*ldivanna83's Avatar
    Today, 06:26 AM
    I have a 3month old baby and am nursing exclusively. We have had some issues with her--- pediatrician has diagnosed her with colic and reflux. She receives zantac twice a day and has been doing great with nursing for over a month until I went back to work. I work 3 days a week, 12 hour shifts each day. She does great with the bottles. She was getting 4 ounce bottles but the day care told me she was hungry so I caved and let them increase to 5 ounce bottles which seems to satiate her and also let her go longer (3 hours instead of 2.5) until she needs another bottle. (She is a big baby, came out at 10lbs 1.5oz and was 13lb 2oz at 2 months)... When I have her at home on my days off, she will start to nurse and then screams and freaks out after initial let down. I'm guessing it's a forceful let down/over supply..? I don't really want to try to decrease my supply since we JUST increased to 5 ounce bottles- I want to be able to keep up with her. I've read about hand expressing prior to nursing her, and block feeding..? I tried to express a little bit from the other boob after she starts freaking out but it's too late at that point and she won't even try the other breast. But then she will take a bottle gladly... I'm not really sure where to start to trouble shoot this. Also, she is spitting up A LOT when she nurses and not at all when she eats from a bottle. It absolutely kills me when she screams and pulls away from my boob. Please help.
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  • @llli*jen.r24's Avatar
    Today, 04:49 AM
    I'm in the lucky position that my husband has a family friendly contract and will be off all August, which would give me time to pump once during the day at some point while she is being minded and maybe I will sit with a cuppa and a book! Yes I'll look into a car adapter and a hands free bra, makes sense! I would imagine some of my co workers would be freaked out by breast milk in fridge, but aside from that our work fridge is really rather disgusting I don't even like putting my lunch in it to be honest. So I may go for a cool box under the desk. I only know one other person in my office who pumped in work, mostly because we are lucky enough to all have taken 9-12 months maternity leave. Any other women who breastfed in my office moved to combi feeding or weaned to formula on return to work. So I've no one really to ask for advice about it. I'm not sure I'm going to tell anyone since I mentioned it to a coupe of co-workers yesterday and got told that since she'll be 1 I should wean and that I was getting played for a fool because my little girl still feeds 3-4 times at night (on a good night). I have a feeling pumping and feeding at her age will be considered weird. Which a bit strange given that we all work with children !
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