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  • @llli*sorina's Avatar
    Today, 06:19 AM
    Any updates on your situation? I'm going through something similar - my son (8 weeks and 4 days) wouldn't latch in the beginning, so I pumped. He now latches (poorly most times), but then readjusts after letdown. I'm still pumping (I try to do it after every feeding or every 3 hours, can't always get baby to be happy for me to pump :( ) My nipples are the same though - painful that I can't stand clothes touching them. In my case I believe it is the flange size that's at fault. I started using the default 24 mm flanges that came with the pump, and I was having a white ring around the nipples (more so on my right breast). I've recently been trying 21 and 19 mm ones. Funny enough, I also get a ring with these, just that the ring is now red instead of white. For a while tough they were less sensitive, but then I tried crancking up the pump, and now they are hurting again. Seems to me that the nipple size varies in my case (based on temperature?), so the same flange size won't always be comfortable.... I actually think it's not the nipple that hurts, but the part between the areola and the nipple, where the nipple bends when something touches against it (did that make sense?)....
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  • @llli*nirebear's Avatar
    Today, 04:10 AM
    Would you consider the time between feeds starts at the beginning or end of a feed? Like if she feeds from 10-10.30 and I wanted to feed every 1hr 30, would that mean the next feed would be 11.30 or 12?
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  • @llli*nirebear's Avatar
    Today, 03:50 AM
    Thank you, your post is SO helpful - feel a bit like I have some things to actually put in place which makes me feel far less helpless. She's been feeding just 5-10 mins on one side at a time. Probably every 2-3 hours. I read your post and tried to up the number of feeds to every 1hr 30 and am trying to lie back as much as possible and already she's having calmer feeds that are lasting a lot longer (20-30 mins). No not done any pumping at all, I haven't even worked out how to use it yet!
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  • @llli*mhbb2's Avatar
    Today, 02:49 AM
    Here soon I will have to go back to work. I am going to wait as long as possible to give baby bottles but I also want to make sure he can do it. My so is a first time dad and I want to make it as easy on them as possible. When we do get to that point how should I go about it. We bought a few avent bottles and the one time daddy did feed him he did fine. I was going to do one bottle a day from the start but then we started having all these bf issues. Any recommendations on bottles,timing, etc. Would be great
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  • @llli*mhbb2's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:35 PM
    Hand expression doesn't work for me
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  • @llli*mhbb2's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:32 PM
    A little pain. Now the nipple thats callused the worst is bleeding so bad the milk I tried to pump from it is pink. Baby refuses to eat from that side. Now how am I supposed to keep the supply in that breast. I'm at my wits end
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  • @llli*mhbb2's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:29 PM
    Now when I try to pump the breast baby won't eat off all the milk has blood in it Enough to where the milk is dark pink. How am I supposed to keep the supply in this breast now? Hand expressing is so painful for me. I'm getting do discouraged. It seems like I'm getting calluses and the part if the nipple thats callused isnt expressing milk. I feel like I can't win
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  • @llli*km0712's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:57 PM
    I've been pumping and supplementing her since she was 6 days old, that was the first suggestion when she wasn't gaining any weight. We started by using a syringe but found that more was ending up on her clothes than in her mouth. We're using the medela calma bottle that came with the pump. Should we be looking at some kind of special bottle? (Edit: After reading the link, I'll go see if I can track down a lactation aid. I'm feeling it may be unlikely where I live, but I could order one--I'm still hoping that I won't need to supplement for too long.) Up until today she was getting about 2-2.5 ounces of expressed milk throughout the day, since that's all I get from the five or so pumping sessions I'd do throughout the day. We haven't done any before/after nursing checks, but it's something I'll ask about. Would an allergy make her grumpy/fussy? I had an allergy to my mom's breastmilk as an infant, and my parents always talk about how colicky I was for the first six weeks before they ended up switching to formula. She's so rarely fussy I assumed an allergy wasn't likely, but maybe I was wrong to think so. Thanks for the resources, I will definitely check them out.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:55 PM
    Hi, a couple things jump out at me. 1) You are still block feeding? What if you stopped all block feeding and let baby nurse both sides every time (if baby likes.)? It would be unusual to need to block nurse totally or partly for so long, and doing so is likely to reduce milk production beyond where you want it to go, and might even be leading to longer nursing sessions. See: http://www.nancymohrbacher.com/blog/tag/block-feeding 2) It sounds like you are on a very restricted diet, and that cannot be helping with your ability to function. Were foods eliminated one at a time, all at once, what? It is very unusual for a mom to need to eat so restricted. When a baby has a reaction to something in moms diet, it is almost always to one food, one food group, or sometimes a couple related food groups. Not every potential allergen. This protocol may help ?: http://www.bfmed.org/Media/Files/Protocols/Allergic%20Proctocolitis%20in%20the%20Exclusively%20Breastfed%20Infant.pdf Also, blood in stool and 'colic' would also result from overproduction. So since you had one basic problem (colic and blood in stool) that you approached with two different solutions, (Block nursing and diet eliminations) how do you know which solution was the necessary one? Another idea I do not see mentioned above is painful reflux? Does that fit at all? : http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/health-concerns/childhood-illnesses/ger/ger-what-it-what-do-faqs I guess I was lucky, my baby who behaved almost...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:37 PM
    Ok, I did not realize you had been regularly pumping and baby has been supplemented for how long?? And how many ounces per day is baby getting in a bottle (or bottle alternative.)? Supplementing is baby getting anything not at the breast, so your expressed milk counts as a supplement. Here is what an appt with an IBCLC might look like: http://cwgenna.com/lconsult.html Have you done any before and after nursing weight checks? Did you discuss the idea of supplementing before baby nurses and why this can be helpful in some cases? See: http://www.lowmilksupply.org/FINISHATTHEBREAST.pdf Did you discuss supplementing less than an ounce at a time, or not at every feeding, etc? And what about how to supplement...are bottles given using paced feeding, or using an alternative method such as a cup or syringe? What about using a lactation aid? This explains why these can actually help with the time management part of supplementing: http://cwgenna.com/smartnothard.html That sounds like normal poop output in a normally gaining baby. So? Obviously weight gain is the most accurate measure, but whenever something does not fit I wonder what might be going on. Green poops can be entirely normal, but I wonder if slow gain plus the green poops might indicate an allergy? I will link a protocol about allergic proctocolitis here: http://www.bfmed.org/Media/Files/Protocols/Allergic%20Proctocolitis%20in%20the%20Exclusively%20Breastfed%20Infant.pdf It would depend what the condition...
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  • @llli*rpq1480's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:54 PM
    Not sure if you've heard of The Wonder Weeks or not, but according to that book, your daughter is currently "leaping". It's apparently very common for moms to get fed up with their babies nursing habits right about now. The book also says it's rare that a baby will self-wean at this time. My son is roughly the same age as your daughter, and here is what works for us. I find that my son nurses best just after waking up from a nap. I don't even turn on the lights or change his diaper. He's SO stimulated these days and easily distracted that if he gets in "play" or "discovery" mode nursing is a bit of a crapshoot. This does mean I go 4 hours between each of his first 3 feedings (7, 11, and 3) but my supply hasn't suffered at all. I offer solids at 8 am and noon and so he's fine with the 4 hour break as well. Then I break the pattern and nurse him at 5:30/6:00 so that when I offer "dinner" solids he won't replace them with my milk. Then I comfort nurse him to sleep at around 7:30. These times are all rough, btw. My son is on a regular rhythm but I don't set exact times to feed. Hang in there and good luck.
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  • @llli*km0712's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:45 PM
    I live in a very remote location, and so the options are pretty limited, but the nurse I saw today is a certified lactation consultant (donated breastmilk is not an option, however). I give her all the milk I pump already, before I give her any formula (although I've only been giving her formula today). I haven't pumped any milk that I didn't give to her. Usually I pump while she's sleeping right after eating. Honestly, I realize there are women who probably spend a lot more time feeding/pumping than I do, but I'm already finding the 10-12 hours or so a day I spend with either her or a pump on my breast a little overwhelming. The weigh-ins were all done on the same infant scale (except June 25, which was with my doctor rather than a nurse, so it was a different scale), and she was naked and clean. Last time I spoke to the doctor (last week) we decided that if she hadn't gained appropriately we'd be looking at getting the tongue-tie clipped, so that will probably be our next step and I guess will just eliminate it as a possible cause. My nurse did suggest starting at an ounce for supplementing with formula straight after a feed, but said it would sort of be a matter of trial and error to see what works. After the first ounce she slept so hard that I kind of feel it was too much, but I'm not sure? She has at least two big poops every day (fills the diaper), that are light greenish in colour and quite runny. She also has 2-4 small poops, that are the same...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:00 PM
    This sounds normal, though on the extreme end of the spectrum. I think the priority here has to be getting you some decent sleep while you figure out what, if anything, is causing the long nursing sessions and high need to suck. So, how unsafe is your mattress? Could you make it safe by, say, putting the mattress on the floor? Or perhaps buying a cheap futon and putting that in the floor? Clearly trying to nurse in a rocker is going to drive you bonkers if you're doing it 3-4 times a night for an hour at a stretch. The PP's suggestion about tongue tie is a good one. Can you see an IBCLC for an in-person assessment?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:55 PM
    Are you having any pain associated with the putative calluses?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:54 PM
    :ita This does not sound breastfeeding-related. Time to see your doc! And just because I say this every time... Get your thyroid checked. Thyroid problems are common in women and in postpartum, and they are frequently overlooked.
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  • @llli*rpq1480's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:34 PM
    I'm sorry you've gone through all of this. It sounds like it's causing your enormous stress and exhaustion. I think you should do whatever will allow you to enjoy your baby the most.
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  • @llli*mhbb2's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:20 PM
    OK I have an appt with an lc tommorow. Ive been only feeding on the left side and yesterday I noticed that my nipples have these raised white parts on them that to me look and feel like calluses. On the right nipple the one baby has been refusing, it seems like no milk comes out of the white area. What's the deal?
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  • @llli*rpq1480's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:12 PM
    I'm not a pro (and there are several in this forum who will chime in with better answers I'm sure!) but the first thing I wondered was whether she might have tongue-tie? Also, I'm sorry you're going through this. It sounds exhausting. Hang in there.
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  • @llli*rpq1480's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:53 PM
    Hi, for the past few days my 9 month old has not relaxed and fallen asleep when I've nursed him. He's been much more interested in the books on the side table and pulling my shirt and just about everything else. He'll kind of dive bomb my boobs and suck for a few seconds, and then get distracted by something else. He only nurses to sleep at night, and he nurses fine generally the rest of day. Is this behavior common for this age? Was he maybe not getting enough milk? He goes to sleep after generally with no problem and doesn't need to nurse all night so I don't think he's hungry. Maybe babies this age just don't get tired as quickly? Though he was yawning a good bit so I think he was tired. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance :)
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:35 PM
    I think the difference is about how cold it is and also consistency of temp. You can see the descriptions here: http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/21_storingmilk.pdf Let me know if this does not answer your question.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:37 PM
    I think it is important at this point to figure out if there is an issue with milk transfer- is baby really not getting enough milk each time they nurse? And if there is poor transfer, is it likely this is due to low milk production or baby not being able to get milk out efficiently. (Which of course can lead to low milk production.) Because there is a diagnosed but untreated tongue tie, I would really think it is important to address the possibility that the primary issue is baby based rather than mom based. The best person to help you with this would be a board certified lactation consultant (IBCLC.) You and your nurse have decided the issue is low production. Ok, this may be so, but the fact is, babies sometimes do not gain well not because they are not getting enough but because they have something else going wrong- an undiagnosed illness or medical condition. And sometimes, weight gain has been improperly measured. I assume all of the above weights were on the same scale, a digital infant scale, done carefully while baby was in a dry disposable diaper only (or naked)? Because it does not make clear sense that a baby would gain so slowly but be pooping a normal amount. How many times exactly each 24 hours does baby poop and what does it look like and size? Also, how much a mom can pump pretty much tells you nothing aside from this- you have at least half an ounce in the breasts 30 minutes after baby nursed. If baby nursed at that point, wouldn't baby be...
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  • @llli*shamrock34's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:04 PM
    Hi all, I am new to the board and could really use some help. I have been ebf my 16 week old and she constantly wants to nurse/ suck. She is gaining well (14 lbs now, 7 lbs at birth). She will only nap if she is nursing (attached to the breast the entire time) or pushed in a stroller. I nurse her to sleep at night and it takes 2+ hours of nursing to fall asleep. Then she wakes up 3-4 times a night and nurses about 1 hour each time. I have tried to unlatch her once I hear that she is done swallowing but she will scream and scream until I let her nurse the full hour. I am completely exhausted and do not know what to do. Co sleeping is not an option due to our mattress not being safe. I tried to nurse side lying on the floor (on a blanket) so I could rest but she screamed so we went back to the rocking chair. I cannot pump much so I have barely had any breaks in 4 months and only get 3-4 hours of broken sleep each night. I feel I am neglecting my 2.5 year old and my husband and need to make a change but I do not know what to do. My pediatrician said to keep it up until 6 months when I could try sleep training. I don't know if I can make it that long. Other background info... She has/had colic (nonstop screaming) until 3 months, multiple food allergies (diagnosed by colic and blood in the stool), so I'm on an allergy free diet and her stools are normal now (have been for 6+ weeks). I also had oversupply according to a lactation consultant so I was block feeding (3 hour...
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  • @llli*km0712's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:13 PM
    Hi all, I would love some advice, and I think I need a place to sound off. My newborn is 3 weeks old, and was born on June 6th. We've had trouble with weight gain. She weighed 8 lbs 14 oz at birth, and was down to 8 lbs even when we left the hospital on June 9th (10% of birth weight). At the hospital she was jaundiced and the nurse did give her some formula while she was receiving phototherapy (always after a feed on the breast, but my milk hadn't come in yet). She has a tongue-tie, and after having it examined by several doctors, nurses, and my doula, we've decided not to snip it for now as her tongue can reach past her gum to push against her lips, and is visibly covering her gums while she latches. Everyone who has checked her latch says she latches really well, and she has right from the start. I haven't had discomfort since the first couple of days. However, she hasn't been gaining weight, and my nurse thinks it's a supply issue (I tend to agree, although we did talk about re-visiting the tongue-tie just to eliminate it as a possibility). I've been trying everything to increase my supply, and have become pretty frustrated despite my best attempts to stay positive. I'll give a history of her weight gain: June 6th - 8 lbs 14 oz June 9th - 8 lbs
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  • @llli*manders0022's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:43 PM
    I am a first time mom, trying to learn the rules of the road with regards to breastmilk storage....so I apologize in advance for the stupid question. Currently I am storing my breastmilk in our kitchen fridge/freezer. We have another refrigerator in our garage (with separate freezer) that I've considered making an exclusive breastmilk freezer. If I do that, can I follow the deep freeze guidelines -- or is there something special about an actual deep freezer that allows milk to stay there longer?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:56 AM
    See a doctor. This is not normal.
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