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  • @llli*rw0804's Avatar
    Today, 05:47 PM
    We have champion sleeper daughters! Yeah, in the first four weeks or so I woke her to feed but the LC and pediatrician said to let her sleep after that since she was well beyond her birth weight. But certainly for the last 8 weeks it's been the same (nurses to sleep, she wakes only once during 8ish hours, sometimes at 2am sometimes more towards 4-5am). My OB said my supply would regulate itself to make less at night as a result but still fine during the day, which seemed to be the case until this week which is after a while of these short feedings happening and why I worried they are linked. That all said, I'm wondering if the stress of returning to work/leaving her and poor sleep (due to said stress) is really the reason. I just pumped (my one pumping session to add to a stash) and pumped only 2 oz total whereas I normally get at least 5-6. So needless to say that kinda freaked me out. Oh man, it is painful! Luckily though we caught it relatively early and it seems to be getting better. I think that's a great idea to try different positions, will do!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 05:32 PM
    Oh Ok, I had one of those too, but she was a smallish baby (under 7 lbs birth weight) so go figure! I chalked it up to my having over production, but as she is almost three and still the most reliably lengthy sleeper in the family - waking an hour or longer after her older brothers in the morning, I now think it is just some aspect of her personality. Ouch that sounds really painful! As baby gets older, different positions where baby takes more control might help?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 05:23 PM
    Well all sounds really good! But does nursing still hurt? Some babies just will not open wide in the classic "gape" prior to coming on the breast, but this is not necessarily needed for comfortable latch. For the timing issue, Where does baby spend the most time when not nursing? One way to get the breast to baby quicker is to hold baby with easy access most of the time, including while baby sleeps, as early cues occur while baby sleeps. if football is working keep doing it be all means, but be sure you are comfortable as well. if you look at my july 2 reply here, I link to some good latch help ideas. http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?123676-Breastfeeding-After-Tongue-Tie
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  • @llli*rw0804's Avatar
    Today, 04:42 PM
    Thanks for your help! It's baffling to me: we co-sleep, no pacifier (ever), and she is rarely swaddled (and if so arms-out) -- she's always been a big night sleeper, only waking once to nurse (and my supply never suffered until now). The LC I saw pinned it on her being a big baby. I always nurse her to sleep and never cut nursing short. But I can try encouraging more nursing at night. That's great to hear about the short feedings being okay. Mommy thumb is a kind of tendonitis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Quervain_syndrome Mine is getting better with wearing a brace but it makes holding her very difficult when nursing on the other side. Thanks again!
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  • @llli*minasmomma's Avatar
    Today, 03:22 PM
    Sorry it took me so long to reply, there was an issue with my login. Baby is nursing about 10-12 times a day, basically on demand. It may be more but I have been so busy that I even forget to get my app running when I start to nurse. Her poop output seems to be great too, she has less frequent poops per day, 2 on average, but her poop amount in those two could equal 4 diapers lol. Her pee output is great in my opinion so I think she is getting enough at this point. Still waiting on the appointment next week to get her weighed. I am having issues with her opening her mouth wide when I go to put her on. She begins to suck on an imaginary teet before I can get the breast in there. I have tried to use my knuckle to place on her chin to help open it longer.......my timing on this isn't the best. Is there any resource for helping that issue? I have altered my hold to the football hold with plenty of support for her body with pillows and blankets and referencing videos and literature I am holding her correctly I just cant get the boob in her mouth fast enough right now.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 03:05 PM
    I would be less concerned about the short sessions and more about the long sleep stretch, as far as impact on milk production. It is fine to encourage a baby to nurse more overnight, and/or to eliminate or cut back on sleep lengthening measures (pacifier, swaddling, baby sleeping in a separate room) so baby might cue to nurse more often on her own. I am not saying 3 month old sleeping that long every 24 hour period is necessarily bad, but since it is pretty unusual in the breastfed baby it is always a little red flag to me. Especially with a return to work looming, night nursing might be something to consider encouraging. The return to work and the need to pump rather than nurse for several hours is the most dangerous time as far as milk production is concerned. Overall, short frequent nursing sessions at this age are entirely normal. As long as baby is being given the opportunity to nurse as long as she likes, nurse to sleep, etc, then it is fine if baby choses another way for now. This may well change anyway. I am not sure what mommy thumb means... Do you mean she always needs you to shape the breast in order to latch? For the whole session or only when latching? Have you tried different positions to help baby latch better? I suggest do not worry about how the way your baby nurses effects how your baby will eat at day care. They are such totally different things- your baby may well not cue as often at day care. I would suggest be very sure your baby's...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 02:44 PM
    Did you nurse your first two children or were you also EPing? For most mothers who are working on "bringing in" a normal milk production when only pumping, this is wrong. Pumping has to replicate what a newborn typically does. Newborns typically nurse 10-12 times OR MORE in 24 hours. Of course, many of these sessions are not all that productive, but they are still vital. So, the bare minimum typically suggested for exclusive pumping in the first two months (approximately) is 8 times in 24 hours. After that, 6 times MAY be ok. It depends on the mom. Diferent moms, different breasts, make a difference. Some mothers need to pump more often than others, just as some need to nurse more often than others. If you possibly can, Yes and Yes. But you are not trying to get more milk per session, or rather that is a secondary concern. What you are trying to do (always, but especially at this critical period) is tell your body that there is a hungry baby and so it needs to step up milk production so you can make enough milk over all. Right now, your body is being told there is about half a baby, not a whole one, if you see what I mean. Your body is not going to want to make more milk than that half of a baby needs. So, your body should respond to more frequent milk removal by making more milk overall. If baby cannot nurse, you do that by using a pump or hand expression (or both) to mimic how a normal healthy newborn eats at the breast, which is very frequently both night...
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  • @llli*missfickleness's Avatar
    Today, 01:48 PM
    So here is the latest on my relactation project: I'm pumping 3-4oz per day now. I generally see an increase of a half ounce (give or take a little) per day. :) Wyatt is now willing to nurse using just a nipple shield, no SNS necessary. He has nursed for up to 20 minutes at a time using just the shield. When I pump after he nurses, I get just a few mL, so he is able to transfer at least some milk.
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  • @llli*nybkmom's Avatar
    Today, 01:09 PM
    Hello fellow moms, I am looking for help and advice with my breast milk supply, which I find too low. I had a planned c-section on June 27th (due to a medical issue). I am currently exclusively pumping (due to another medical issue). I have a medela double electrical pump.
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  • @llli*rw0804's Avatar
    Today, 12:54 PM
    My almost 12 week old (12 weeks in three days so I figured this was the most appropriate forum, apologies if not!) has been averaging 3-5 mins total per feeding (sometimes one side/refuses the second side, sometimes gets annoyed at first side and does 2 minutes each side). She's certainly gaining developmentally (getting distracted while nursing by exciting things like a beige wall, ha) which I read causes distracted nursing. Her wet diapers seem okay (5-7/day) and she is pooping every three days or so (poo tends to be thick), she's about 13lbs 5 oz (born at 9lbs 1oz), sleeping from 6-8 hours at night in one stretch, wakes to nurse for about 6 mins, then sleeps another 2.5 hours or so. For the most part she's a good latcher (I've never had a sore nipple and after her tongue tie was fixed at 4 weeks our lactation consultant said all looks great). The problem: I've developed terrible "mommy thumb" which makes holding her to help her latch difficult but not impossible. Coinciding with her short feeds I've noticed what seems to be a drop in supply (which was much more abundant a week ago) even though I'm feeding on demand (she often nurses every 1.5-2 hours during the day) and there are times she clearly seems frustrated on the boob. I understand by this point my supply may have regulated (not feeling engorged in the mornings, etc.) but I'm really worried about these short feedings (and how that will impact her being bottle fed at daycare) and producing enough as I stare...
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  • @llli*sunsetbean's Avatar
    Today, 11:15 AM
    Thanks for the help. So... -pain can be during a feeding (when it feels like baby is directly hitting a "cut"), sometimes right after she comes off (a stinging pain as if from a cut), and not so often I can feel it against fabric. The sting can radiate through the breast. This has basically been going on from birth. -tips of nipples do NOT turn colors. maybe slightly white sometimes, but that seems like it's from milk. -nipple shape is slightly asymmetrical. She has a very high palate and keeps her tongue far back in her mouth (resulting in clicking, most prevalent during let down and when she's tired). We are doing myofacial with a speech therapist for this part, and laid back nursing as much as possible. -nothing on the nipple that you mentioned. -no diaper rash that I've noticed. -I did have antibiotics during delivery for GBS, but was also taking a probiotic and baby took one in her Vitiman D supplement. I am back on a probiotic nOw. I read about thrush and would be surprised if that's what we have. The pain I've had has been around since birth, to varying degrees, and I really think it's due to latch and sucking coordination. One of th descriptions of th pain though spoke to me...the feeling of shards of glass being in your areola. It then radiates out to the breast at times.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 08:40 AM
    Hello nowellina. Here are the three basics when a baby will not latch. first, milk production must be stimulated by frequent milk removal. This can be with a pump, or hand expressing, or both. but frequent milk removal is vital. A minimum of 8 times a 24 hour day if at all possible. So, no matter how little comes out, it is vital to pump or hand express frequently if baby will not latch. It is also important to know that pump type matters greatly. Usually, the best pump for this situation is a "hospital grade & multi-user pump" This is a type of pump a mother rents by the week or month from a hospital or a lactation consultant. If this is not possible for you, the second best choice is a NEW double sided electric pump- the type designed for mothers who have to pump due to daily separations due to work or school. The pump has to not only be in excellent working order, it has to fit mother properly. So my first question would be, what is your pump like and where did you get it. The second thing is to look at how a baby is fed. The typical way babies are fed with bottles is not at all helpful in encouraging a baby to nurse. Babies tend to be over fed, both overall and at each feed. They tend to be fed very rapidly, with the bottle tilted up, and that causes gravity to force the baby to drink very quickly and to drink more than they really need. This interferes with breastfeeding due to baby being overly full and to expect that milk should pour into baby's mouth...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 08:24 AM
    That doesn't sound like a fissure; again, cracked nipples generally aren't subtle! Some more questions for you: - When do you have pain- at the beginning of the feeding, throughout the feeding, at the end of a feeding, or after the feeding is over? - After feedings, do the tips of your nipples ever turn white, or perhaps bluish-purple, before returning to their normal color? - When baby comes off the breast, is the nipple symmetrical, like a pencil eraser, or asymmetrical/wedged/creased/ridged/shaped like a new lipstick? - Are you seeing any of the following in the nipple/areola area: dry-looking, flaking, or peeling skin, increased redness or pinkness, or skin which appears shiny? - Does the baby happen to have oral thrush or a yeast diaper rash? - Have you had a recent vaginal yeast infection or a recent course of antibiotics (aside from the ones you're on now)?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 08:03 AM
    . :ita I am mostly looking for answers because you think baby is more fussy as well as the poops. The poops alone may mean nothing at all. But now that I think about it, behavioral changes including increased fussiness are pretty normal at this age as well.
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  • @llli*sunsetbean's Avatar
    Today, 08:01 AM
    Baby is 11 weeks. Oftentimes when she is nursing it can feel like there is a cut on my areola. It will sting and has caused deeper breast pain at times. I can't actually see any cuts or fissures though. So maybe fissure isn't the correct term? We started back on the breast today because my nipples were feeling better. Is my plan for keeping the nipples healed ok?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 07:35 AM
    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new baby! The best way to measure milk intake and milk supply is by watching the baby's weight gain and diaper output. As long as those two things are normal, you don't need to worry. Here's what you should expect from diapers, from birth to 6 weeks: http://kellymom.com/bf/got-milk/supply-worries/enough-milk/ Length of nursing sessions doesn't tell you much. Babies vary in the length of time they nurse, even from the earliest ages. Some babies get all they need in just 5-10 minutes, others take closer to an hour. It's very normal for a baby to nurse more quickly as she gets older and more efficient. That all being said, bottle introduction can affect nursing. First, bottles have the potential to affect your milk supply. Ideally, you want to pump at about the same time that the bottle is being given. If you don't, going longer stretches without removing milk can result in reduced supply. So bottles should not mean that you're getting a break. (Sorry!) Second, babies latch onto and suck from bottles differently from how they latch/suck at the breast, and that can impact their willingness and ability to nurse. Third, overfeeding via bottle can reduce a baby's need to nurse, leading to decreased supply. When a bottle is given in place of nursing, it should generally contain no more than 2 oz. Since it sounds like nursing is still a little rough for you, I suggest doing the following: 1. See a lactation...
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Today, 07:17 AM
    :ita with MaddieB. I know it's hard not to get obsessed with the color/quantity/frequency/smell of your baby's poop, but I swear, green poops are not in and of themselves representative of a problem. In a generally healthy baby, they're just a normal variation.
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  • @llli*nowellina's Avatar
    Today, 04:08 AM
    Baby 4weeks by the way
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  • @llli*nowellina's Avatar
    Today, 04:04 AM
    Hello all. I am a first time mum, finding it very difficult for baby to latch, sometimes manage for about 5 mind on one breast then he kicks and screams then unable to put him back on. I've tired pumping but only 5mls to 10mls comes out. I had a traumatic birth with complications so was away from him a while at the beginning. He's formula feed. I am pro breastfeeding but I'm still recovering from the birth and finding it very difficult to keep trying. Just wondering if there is anything else I could do. I've exhausted all information about breastfeeding. :(
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  • @llli*ecoppinger's Avatar
    Today, 03:57 AM
    My daughter is now 1 month old and I have has been nursing since day one. I was sore in the beginning due to poor latch, which we have fixed now. We just found out a few days ago her and I had thrush which is now being treated and is less painful. I started pumping and we introduced a bottle a few days ago because I was so sore, it was nice to have a little break. We have given her a bottle just twice a day for the last 3 days. Now when she is nursing she will latch on and nurse for maybe 5 minutes and fall asleep and start nibbling or tugging and pulling at me. I feel like she is not getting enough milk now. Could my milk supply be to low? I get about 1.5 to 2 ounces when I pump, which is only 3 times a day right now. Please help! I would love to continue breastfeeding! We have made it this far I would hate to fail now.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:09 AM
    This is normal and common for this age- for baby who once only wanted one side usually to now want both. Bigger baby, bigger tummy, can hold a bit more at a time, also, milk production if it was once high tends to reduce slightly at this age, changing nursing patterns. I can see how pumping due to returning to work might be increasing your production a bit, but I think you can look at that as a good thing, because many moms find it difficult to maintain adequate production once back at work. I think that if it IS from pumping, the issue should resolve soon. If a cold is/was making baby mucousy, that will irritate baby and cause different look to poop. Also if baby has a virus, green poops could come from that. If this issue started the week you returned to work, what about thinking about what and how much baby is getting while you are at work?
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  • @llli*ingie101's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:33 PM
    The feeding pillow I love and use is My Brest Friend. It has back support, adjustable velcro, a lock-in latch, and it has a removable slip cover for easy washing. Look it up, it's been such a life saver, especially at night.
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  • @llli*mylittlenora's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:00 PM
    Thank you both for responding. I never pull her off one side to put her on the other. I wait until she pulls herself off and if she still seems hungry I'll offer her the other side and she always takes it now. I don't think I have an oversupply issue, but I have noticed a slight increase in supply since I started back at work this week and started pumping. It has been worse this week...could it be from pumping? She's also had a cold she's been getting over, so maybe from that? Today has been the worst day...frequent green watery poops all day :(
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:48 PM
    Yes baby nursing on both sides each session is linked to "too much foremilk" - but It is more linked to mom following the oft repeated suggestion to have baby nurse 15 minutes (or 10, or 20) on one side and then switching- in other words, the switching is instigated by mom following the clock and/or the instruction to "always" make sure baby has both sides. If baby "finishes " on one side and then wants the other, it is appropriate to offer the other side and unlikely to cause issues. Also, this is only an issue, typically, in the newborn period. Not starting at 3 months. An exception would be if you have over-abundant milk production. Do you think that you do? So typically, there is nothing at all wrong with your baby nursing on both sides if that is what baby wants. And baby only wanting the second side a short time is normal as well. If it IS foremilk related, the easiest, simplest fix, usually, is to encourage baby to nurse more often. If baby nurses more often, there is less foremilk "build up" in the breasts. Also, if baby is willing to nurse more often overall, baby may not need both sides both times. Green, watery poops can mean many things and can even be entirely normal. If you think the fussiness is related, have you ruled out a virus? How long has this been going on?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:44 PM
    I looked up Beyaz and it's a combination estrogen-progestin pill, which is the formulation which is most likely to have a negative impact on supply.
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