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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:59 PM
    What was baby's birth weight? Was discharge weight the lowest known weight? And what day of life was discharge? It sounds like baby gained normally up to 2 weeks, gained very little between two and 3 weeks, and then, with supplements, gained over a pound in a week-(so, over TWICE normal gain) ? Do I have that right? To me, this screams of scale error. Why would a baby who is gaining about an ounce a day until two weeks suddenly stop gaining well? Were the scales used always the same? Especially the scales between 2 weeks and 3? what was baby's output (pooping) like prior to supplementing? After supplementing? If a baby truly is not gaining enough via breastfeeding, it is helpful for breastfeeding to be assessed to discover why. Poor milk transfer? Low milk production? Baby not nursing often enough? etc. Were or are you able to see a Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC)? Formula supplements only treats the weight gain issue. It does not solve whatever underlying cause of poor weight gain, and of course formula supplements, even when needed, are harmful to milk production. If formula has been prescribed by the doctor, they must be extremely concerned about baby's gain, so gain must be being closely monitored? When is the next scheduled weight check? What was their explanation for the extreme rapid gain of 19 ounces in a week once formula was started? Nursing sessions typically vary in length and intensity. So I see nothing unusual about the nursing...
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  • @llli*janygb143's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:54 PM
    Bump! I came to the board to ask the same thing. I have period symptoms, too, but no actual bleeding. How else can we manage the hormonal changes? Baby is 4mo old and keeping up on the growth chart, but I don't think he gains weight the week before/after my period. Every day my milk supply seems different- gradually increases until ovulation, then drops until my period. Afternoons are almost always terrible - fussy baby, fussy momma. This time i tried taking More Milk Plus and pumping on the days I thought I was low, but ended up with a plugged duct. Please help. Getting really frustrated.
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  • @llli*stephanie4pm's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:36 PM
    I am a first time mom, I got to stay home with my LO until he was 3 months old hes now 4 months old. I've been back at school for almost a month now, and some how I've managed to stay afloat with BF. My son is growing rapidly and my milk supply seems to be diminishing. I had to throw out over a gallon of milk I had pumped in preparation to return to school when I was told the fenugreek I was taking was causing my son problems. After stopping taking the fenugreek the problems stopped. So I tragically had to dump most of my supply. At my school the only place I have to pump is in the employee bathroom once a day if I am lucky with no chair or table. My mom bought me organic rice cereal she thinks is ok to start giving him because he seems to be hungry more often for more then 4oz at a time, my doctor told me between 4 and 6 months was ok to start introducing him to foods. I am having a very emotional feeling about giving him anything but breast milk until he is 6 months old. I can't even wrap my head around the possibility of having to give him formula. I feed him at 6:00am from one side and pump the other I'm only getting 4oz while I am gone from 7:30am until 5:30 pm I barely even have time to drink. What do I do??? This is killing me and my supply just keeps getting smaller because I can't keep up.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:25 PM
    SO the LC said not a plug, and doctor said it is a plug? That is not so helpful is it? Sorry. I have no idea if it is a plug or not. But I cannot totally agree with either professional! Plugs DO increase or decrease in size. More specifically, a plug plugs the duct and milk backs up behind it, making the plug appear to be (and eventually, really to be) larger. When a baby nurses, the plug may or may not remain in place. If it does remain, it still might "shrink" because milk MAY move past the plug but the plug remain in the spot. Also sometimes there are several plugs, not one. Also sometimes plugs go away and come back. Also I have never heard that it always takes "two days' for a plug to come back. Plugs can pop up pretty quickly. Here is what I think. If what the doctor said makes sense to you, it is easy enough to try waiting longer between nursing sessions to see if that helps. Nothing else has, and since this is your baby's preference anyway, I see no problem with trying that. Just be careful as the initial result will be more fullness, not less, probably. But I think that a nursing baby will not take more milk overall than a baby needs. So generally speaking, there is nothing wrong with encouraging baby to nurse more often, because the overall amount baby takes in will not be more, or at least not all that much more that it increases your milk production beyond normal. Also, your history does not suggest the plugs were caused by nursing more often,...
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  • @llli*kimb14's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:16 PM
    I have been struggling to recognize her hunger cues, so I've just been trying to nurse every 2-3 hours. I wish she showed the more obvious signs of hunger! She sleeps well at night, so I usually wake her every 4 hours to nurse. The other issue I'm having is that she will stay latched on just sucking without swallowing for a really long time. Because the feeds are inconsistent, I don't know what to do when she is just doing very passive sucking without swallowing- since I worry that she is not draining the breast and is potentially still hungry after.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:12 PM
    YES! Approximately 1-5% of women develop something called postpartum thyroiditis in the year following childbirth. Women who have a personal or family history of thyroid problems are more likely to be in that 1-5%. If you haven't been checked since pregnancy, now is an excellent time to get checked again.
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  • @llli*kamy04's Avatar
    Yesterday, 05:28 PM
    No one has expressed concern over his weight, but we aren't being followed closely. I just noticed a change in his nursing habits and then that his weekly gain slowed. But what you're saying about it being too short a time makes sense. I only use a shield on the left because otherwise he cannot latch on that side. I do also pump that side 1-2x per day. I teach, so I can only pump 2-3x. Boo. It is good to hear his gain looks okay to an outside source. Thanks!
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:40 PM
    its my update
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  • @llli*nivilovely's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:39 PM
    hi i had both LC and ob/gyn appointment. i am still dealing with the lumps in my right breast. when LC saw my breast she said she don't think its a plugged duct because plugged duct remains in the same size doesn't grow like half of the breast and if it shrinks it remains same for few days and goes away and it will take atleast two days to come back. i getting hard lump in breast between every feeding and the lump near my chest wall its not going away so its growing back again and again. then she said it might be localized infection(mastits) but i am yet to show the symptoms. so i went to see my doctor to know whether i should take antibiotics. my doctor checked my breast(after my baby nursed, so the lump was near my chest wall) she said she don't think anything abnormal is going on and she don't see any classic symptoms so she cannot prescribe me antibiotics.. she asked my how often do i feed my baby, i said he goes 3 to 4 hours between feedings so encourage him to nurse every 2 to 3 hours. she said what i do is not correct and thats the reason for these lumps because baby is not emptying my breast because he is not that hungry to empty it. i said when i feed him on demand i felt like he was losing weight. she said it doesn't look like a starving baby(i took my baby with me) and my baby its not gonna die if i feed him on demand(like every 4 hours). because of encouraging him to feed often i am stimulating my breast more often and thats the problem. is it true? i don't...
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  • @llli*m11612's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:31 PM
    Overall size if breast does not necessarily indicate flange size. I too thought I needed the smallest but found the middle size actually were a better fit. You may want to double check that you have a good fit. Also, I found I got more milk pumping at a slightly lower than the highest. I think each person is different. I had the best luck letting it switch after the 2 minutes, letting it stay slow for about 2 minutes then pushing the button for another 2 minutes stimulation phase finishing after that with the longer suck phase. I think each mom has to find out their own best rhythm. Pumping is so hard for so many reasons. Keep up the good work!
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  • @llli*still-learning's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:48 PM
    Hi, I too supplemented my first with formula while at work and continued to breastfeed at home. I pumped at work, but like you it wasn't enough. I was able to pump enough for my second child. I bet you tried these before, but somethings that help me were. 1. Nursing more while at home. Making sure to nurse or pump (ugh) right before I left for work, right when I got home...Basically I made nursing a priority when home. 2.Pumping longer (several minutes after milk has stopped flowing). Are you getting a second letdown when you pump? 3. Experiment with different environments while pumping. Try looking at pictures of baby, or reading a book, doing work. Basically letdown is attached to emotional things what works for one mom may not for the next. 4. Relax and be proud of the milk your baby is getting! Also, how long are you away from your baby? I don't think your output is very much under the 1-1.5oz per hour separated from baby. Which I think is the average amount a baby needs.
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:46 PM
    11 oz in 10 days is spot on great weight gain!!! However, I've experienced Drs staff wanting me to MAKE my baby Gain 2 oz per day to "catch up" so I've gotten really angry about the Drs myself. After I was told to make him gain 2 oz per day, I got copies of his records and went looking for another Dr.
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  • @llli*three.babies's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:14 PM
    So I saw the Pediatrician today and my wee man was 9lbs 3oz. He gained 11oz in 10 days, which I thought was pretty darn good. The dr said it was "just ok". He also reluctantly gave me a script for Zantac for the silent reflux. He seemed to think since the baby isn't arching his back that he might not have reflux. I guess the other signs and symptoms don't count...? And he said he didn't think the tongue tie was a contributor to the weight issues. Feeling a little annoyed by him at the moment. I feel like he expects my baby to be a big, chunky baby. However, I don't want to over feed him to the point where his stomach stretches and then he requires more to feel full and ends up being over weight. So I am just hanging in there until I get in to see the ENT in a few weeks. I'm going to wait until a few weeks after the tongue tie procedure before I do anything else for my supply. Right now it seems to be sufficient for the most part and I'm not sure I want to hassle with the side effects of any meds. Yesterday he only took one bottle and only one so far today. He seems to be getting relatively satisfied with just nursing. We have another weight check in 2 weeks. Crossing my fingers for a better reaction from the doc.
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  • @llli*lola4son's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:00 PM
    Nic123 - did Krystine ever respond to you / get back to you re. her story and where to find it? I'd also love to read as my son's been on a long nursing strike as well:) Thanks!
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  • @llli*lola4son's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:57 PM
    Hi Krystine, My son has been on a long nursing strike as well and been looking for your published story. Could you send me the link or the title of the story / where it was published? Thanks so much!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:44 PM
    Ok, I understand better your question now. So I would say it is NOT normal for breastfeeding alone to cause rapid weight loss at this age. Typically breastfeeding mothers tend to lose their "baby weight" more rapidly with little or no extra effort in the early months than moms who do not nurse. IN fact some (not all) find they can eat quite a bit and still lose that pregnancy weight. So that IS entirely normal. Also I think some moms do find that this early weight loss continues beyond the early months or is causing mom to be unhealthily underweight, and they may find they need to up their calorie intake. But weight loss that onsets post 6 months, or is taking you to an unhealthy weight? That would be more unusual and might indicate some illness or condition. And if this was the only factor, I would say it is a good idea to be tested like pp just to rule out a health issues. In your case, you know you are not probably not eating enough. Right? Skipping meals is not usually healthy for anyone, even someone who is trying to lose weight! However, if you think something is possibly wrong, no reason to not get checked out.
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  • @llli*jtmmh's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:30 PM
    Thank you for the solidarity post, chelcrae90:) I had "transient hyperthyroidism" during pregnancy but my levels evened out- please excuse my ignorance, but that could change postpartum? Worth a check for sure! Right now I'm trying not to skip meals (wasn't on purpose, just busy) and trying to snack more. I'm going to give it a month to see where I'm at. Cut back on breastfeeding? Oh the things dr.'s say:) my doctor asked me if breastfeeding was "more a need for me or my daughter" when I explained that I was still breastfeeding at 14 months! She loved it when I told her I was going to let my son wean himself- I think I stay with her to annoy her... And have to for my insurance:)
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  • @llli*mommatocomma's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:44 PM
    Thanks to all of you for your supportive comments. No improvement in night time yet but she's been napping well (not surprised, she must be exhausted!) and has been really smiley and happy in the day which has been helping my mood. I have also behaved myself and shut up about it to friends -and have definitely scaled down on chores etc. There is a local lll group-I went once and didn't really click with it, but I will try again. Bracing myself for night 5....
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  • @llli*tclynx's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:39 PM
    If you are only nursing 8 times a day, well the first thing I would say to do to maybe get off the supplements is to nurse WAY more often. Nursing is for way more than just food. Nursing is for quenching thirst Nursing is for food Nursing is for comfort and closeness. You don't have to wait till baby is crying for food to offer to nurse. There are some pairs that nurse every 45 minutes and that is ok too. If your storage capacity is not huge then baby needs to nurse more often to get as much milk as is needed. If you have only been nursing every 3 or more hours that could also explain why you might have supply issues. During the early days newborns normally need to nurse practically all the time it seems (they might be sleeping with a boob in their mouth part of the time but that is OK too.)
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  • @llli*carm3's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:09 PM
    I started doing Jillian Michaels workout videos at 3-4 months PP, it never correlated to any change in nursing behaviour that I noticed! Agree with the PP, keep hydrated, make sure you have a good supportive bra. I would also say to make sure you're not too full before you go (ie nurse right before you go out) to decrease the likelihood of getting a plug. If you go in the 'Around the Refreshment Table' section at the bottom of the forum, there's a sub-forum for fitness - you might find more helpful info there.
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  • @llli*usafreat's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:58 AM
    Hi! I started up exercising moderately then vigorously at 5 Mos and my baby never reacted like there was a milk change in any way, no change in my supply. I always worry about not wearing the sports bra too long---squishes the boobs and I don't want a plug! Stay hydrated that's all. Enjoy your run it's REALLY nice to get back out there!
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  • @llli*usafreat's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:52 AM
    is it that she won't feed more than 8 times a day or that you only offer 8 times a day? From my knowledge, for a newborn, 8 times is on the low end, 10 middle 12 good. sometimes even more. She sounds like sometimes she is comfort sucking or just enjoying being at the breast. I would offer offer offer and let her decide when she is done.
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  • @llli*usafreat's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:46 AM
    Could it be that the baby is getting used the ease of finger feeding and becoming impatient when he has to 'work' for the milk at the breast? I've often heard of babies that are supplemented become fussy at the breast because it's not automatic milk, they have to work a little bit to get the milk whereas when given a bottle or other method the milk is 'given' to them.
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  • @llli*kimb14's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:33 AM
    Thanks for your response! Supplements are being given by the bottle, 1 oz after breast feeding, between 5-8 oz per day. Sometimes nursing feels great! I can see her actively swallowing, taking big gulps. But then other times, it seems like she is literally taking one swallow every 20-30 seconds, and then is sucking/pausing. And after about 20 minutes or so, I wonder if she has even gotten any milk. It's really frustrating! Her discharge weight was 7 lbs 1 oz, at her two week apt it was 7 lbs 14 oz, then a week later it was 8 lbs. Because she hadn't gained good weight, we started supplementing, and at her 1 mos apt she was up to 9 lbs 3 oz. I am breastfeeding her 8 times a day, and I would like to be able to get off the supplement, but with the inconsistent feeding, I'm not sure if that is going to be possible.
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  • @llli*erin.in.middletown's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:27 AM
    Hello, all! I have a six month old, and all is going well with breastfeeding. We started solids this week, and are going the baby led route, and very gradually. I am seeking any advice regarding plans to start to exercise, specifically, starting to run. I believe I read somewhere that exercise can change the taste of breastmilk, and that this can be frustrating to some babies. Is this true? Is there any potential that this would impact my supply, and if so, how do I prevent this? Is there anything specific I should change or add to my diet, to support breastfeeding while adding this extra activity, other than just eating more and drinking more, when I'm hungry? (If it helps, I returned to pre pregnancy weight pretty quickly, maybe four weeks or so after birth, and am now maybe 3 or 4 pounds under pre preg weight, but still within a normal range, but haven't been doing any deliberate 'exercise'- but I do have a baby who likes to be held, and likes me to be moving when doing so!) (If this is the wrong place to post this question, where should it be?)
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  • @llli*karrieperry's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:22 AM
    Thank you for posting this response, my daughter is 20 months old and I really like your night time arrangement and I think we are going to try it, too. I think all 3 of us (toddler, husband, and me) are ready to move on to a new sleeping arrangement so hearing about your setup has helped me come up with some new ideas! And I'm the same way, I don't really care if she just eats the pasta on her plate, and the few times I was worried she wouldn't eat the meat, etc, she did...she just likes to eat foods one at a time. Anyway, holly567, I am about where you are with the night nursing. I've figured out that my daughter has a really hard time sleeping next to me because she loves nursing so much. Last night I had my husband do the comforting and although she was initially very upset, she got over it within a few minutes and then she slept for the rest of the night without a peep. I was so surprised by that.
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  • @llli*zaynethepain's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:28 AM
    Do you have a local LLL or other breastfeeding group? That's a great place to find the right kindo of friends to complain to about this.
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  • @llli*sonogirl's Avatar
    Yesterday, 10:28 AM
    Yeah, I've got one of those "nurse like newborns" toddlers! My 21 month old usually wants to nurse every 30-45 minutes while she is awake and we are together. :)
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