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  • @llli*djs.mom's Avatar
    Today, 08:08 AM
    The rule of thumb is 1-1.5 oz of milk for every hour away. A breastfed baby is not likely to EVER take 6 oz in a feeding. It sounds like they are feeding your baby like a formula fed baby. Don't allow it. If you are away from the baby for 8hours? The outside most should be 16oz. And that 2oz an hour which is OVER the recommended amount an hour by half an oz. And send them in 4oz bottles. 6-7 oz a bottle is NOT a recommendation for a breast fed baby. It's just not. And it may be a difficult transition back. But you need to tell them that he doesn't need to be fed every time he cries either. He may want to be held or walked around. But this is an area where you want to be firm and advocate for yourself and your child. Because women being told by daycare that they "aren't keeping up" with the extra amount of milk that their babies mysteriously ask for while away from their mothers that they NEVER ask for when being fed on demand? Is a HUGE reason women start to supplement when they DON'T NEED TO. Which can in fact end the nursing relationship. I think you are making enough milk. You are away from his for 10 hours? Really 18 should be enough. But I would max out @ 20oz. That's 2oz an hour. So 5 4oz bottles. That's it. Pull back on that extra 4oz. And tell them NOT to feed him MORE than one bottle every 2hours.
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  • @llli*bebo's Avatar
    Today, 02:17 AM
    I think I'm looking for some reassurance and perhaps a bit of advice here. My second baby is 2 and a half weeks old and pretty much only nurses to sleep. Dad and Nanny can rock him, but this is only occasionally possible for me. I completely understand the biological reasoning for nursing to sleep and it's normal and the way things should be and in many ways lovely. But here's the thing - my 5 year old has been a terrible sleeper, she is intense and spirited and finds it very difficult to switch off. She was a very high needs baby and remains so now. Nursing was the only way I could get her to sleep other than car or pram occasionally. Every nap was a battle, I remember getting to 8 months and making the decision to give in to her staying on the boob for her entire nap. Baby boy seems a very different personality, much more chilled out, but I am petrified of being in the same boat again. There have been times when I have been calmly trying to rock him to sleep and he will be there but will only his eyes again and it's like I'm back in the room desperately pacing around with his big sister in the sling. It's like a form of PTSD!
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:18 PM
    :ita with the PP. This sounds like a case of overfeeding at daycare. Is baby nursing overnight, or is he sleeping all the way through?
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:15 PM
    It depends on whether or not he is simply looking leaner while continuing to gain weight, or actually losing weight. If he is continuing to gain, even if it is very slowly, then it's probably nothing to worry about. Even if he is slipping percentiles on the weight-for-age charts, it's probably just fine. seight gain slows down a lot in the second year, and many babies get quite a bit taller but not much heavier in between their first and second birthdays. If he is actually losing weight, then that is a reason to be concerned. Your milk and formula are still able to provide for a lot of a toddler's nutritional needs. Until a year, milk or formula are all a baby needs. After a year, milk or formula can still meet most of his needs for calories.
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  • @llli*mommal's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:02 PM
    Welcome to the forum! It sounds like your lactation consultant may have pulled the trigger early when it comes to concern about your milk supply. A baby who is producing sufficient wet/poop diapers is getting enough to eat, regardless of how much the mom can pump after nursing. It's completely normal to pump little or no milk after a good nursing session, particularly if mom is not very experienced with pumping or is using a weak pump (e.g., a manual pump, a well-used electric pump, or a cheap single electric pump). If you have a non-reassuring weight check this evening, here is what I would do: 1. Discuss your baby's wet/poop diaper output. As long as that is normal and the baby is not losing weight, your LC should probably be okay with you simply continuing to nurse, which should quickly increase your supply, and doing another weight check in a few days to make sure everything is back on track. 2. Use pumping to increase supply. Make sure you have the right tools for the job: a good double electric pump and correctly fitted shields. 3. Don't rely too heavily on oatmeal, fiber, water, etc. Pumping and nursing are the best and fastest roads to increased supply. It would be great if all we needed to do in order to guarantee great supply was to eat a bowl of oatmeal, but as with most things in life, hard work is what gets results! 4. Do not freak out about "sporadic" eating. That is a completely normal eating pattern for a young baby. Many babies start...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:53 PM
    My understanding is that formula makers make formula to match breastmilk in calories. In other words, 5 ounces is 5 ounces. So I do not see why you would need to send more because it is formula. Unfortunately those babies who are given 6 to 8 ounces are probably being overfed. Also, many formula fed babies are on feeding schedules and since this limits the frequency with which a child is fed, it increases the amount of each feeding. For better health, it would probably be better if all babies were fed more like breastfed babies- small feedings, more frequently. The rule of thumb that seems to work well for most babies at daycare is that baby needs about 1 to 1.5 ounces of milk per hour of separation. So, for 8 hours of separation, 8-12 ounces would be about right. Of course some babies may prefer a little more, but if it is a significant amount it might make sense to look at how baby is being fed at daycare. Size and growth rate does not determine how much a child needs all that much. I am not aware of some mathematical equation that would tell your pediatrician that your baby weighs X and thus needs Y. Since overfeeding with bottles is common it is important to be sure that is not going on when a mom is finding she cannot "keep up." This is important not only because it means mom cannot pump enough but also because overfeeding might cause baby to not nurse with normal vigor or frequency when baby is with mom, and this can lead to poor milk production or bottle...
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  • @llli*puja's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:50 PM
    Isn't it to be worried that he is becoming leaner every day though from where do he get calories for such an immense energy is a mystery for me...he don't like even to touch messy food by hands....he would just put food in and out of his plate nd May one bite to his mouth not even second time he try...I don't know what type of taste would he like....
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  • @llli*justitia's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:45 PM
    My baby is 7 months old and I have also run out of my freezer stash. I'm pumping the same number of times at work and getting about the same volume, but I can't keep up with how much he likes to take at daycare. He is in the 80th percentile for height and weight, and our pediatrician said he is getting the perfect amount given his growth. My question is: if I need to send formula, should it be the same volume as the breast milk bottles (5 oz) I have been sending? Or do I need to send the larger volume that formula-fed babies take (6-8 oz)?
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  • @llli*justitia's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:36 PM
    I had a similar issue when I started back at work and started sending my baby to daycare. When he started going at 3 months, I sent 4 oz bottles. Almost immediately, daycare started asking for 6-7 oz per bottle. I asked my pediatrician, who asked the hospital lactation specialist, who said that breastfed babies should get no more than 3-4 oz per bottle. I believe this is to mimic what the baby would on average take while nursing. We noticed too that when a family member gave him a bottle at home, he was fine with 4 oz and cuddling afterwards. It was a little awkward, but when daycare asked again for more volume, I mentioned what my pediatrician said about breastfed babies, and they thankfully let it go. I did end up increasing to 5 oz because he is well above average for height and weight, and my mother-in-law felt he could take a little more. He has been growing perfectly on this amount. It's hard, but try talking with your daycare, and, as was advised to me, don't feel pressured to give more when you know that's not what your baby needs. A little more TLC after the bottles or a pacifier, if you are using them, may be more appropriate.
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  • @llli*melissag's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:05 PM
    Thank you for your reply! It gives me hope :) went to the doctor she is gaining good weight :) I will try not to stress as much
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:56 PM
    Even if you DO have Hep C, the current recommendation is that breastfeeding continue. There is no evidence that Hep C is transmitted to infants via breastmilk according to the CDC. http://www.cdc.gov/breastfeeding/disease/hepatitis.htm
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:52 PM
    This sounds like it may be that the "let down" (the moment milk ejects from your beasts) is a little fast or forceful. This is entirely normal and common especially in the first several weeks. After 4-6 weeks (or sooner) fast letdown usually begins to subside on its own. Some babies are fine with it, others object, and many have issues with it some of the time but not always. The quickest and easiest fix is to adjust your position so you are leaning back enough that baby can kind of be on top of you. Many moms find that this kid of positioning change solves this issue. Other ideas- nursing frequently helps, because there is less time for milk to 'build up" in the breasts. When baby unlatches, if the milk is flowing, let it flow into a cloth before putting baby back on. Some moms find it is needed to hand express a little milk before putting baby onto or back onto the breast. Here is more info: http://www.nancymohrbacher.com/articles?tag=Fast+Milk+Flow If you do not think fast letdown is the issue, let me know.
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:41 PM
    :ita Medications and Mothers' Milk says it's commonly prescribed for mastitis, and is compatible with breastfeeding.
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  • @llli*mominoes's Avatar
    Yesterday, 12:33 PM
    I've been back at work 4 weeks now and my baby (18 weeks) has been in childcare for the same amount of time. I am pumping at work and am running into a problem meeting my baby's demand. I have fairly consistently been able to pump 18 oz/day at work. In his first week at childcare, baby was drinking about 16 oz (3 bottles/day), then he'd want to nurse like crazy in the evening. Week 2, he started drinking 18 oz during the day (still 3 oz), still wanted to nurse a lot in the evening. So that was no problem, seemed like we were settling into a nice routine. However.... Week 3 he started burning through the backup milk I left in the freezer at childcare, so he was drinking more on the order of 20-22 oz per day, and he was SCREAMING for food when I picked him up. Meantime, I am still having trouble pumping more than 18 oz per day at work. I tried splitting his 18 oz into 4 bottles but he was still apparently getting hungry and needing milk from the freezer. This week, he seems to have leveled off at drinking 24 oz per day (4 6oz bottles). I'm still only pumping 18 oz (sometimes I manage 19.5, but that's really the max I can do). At the moment I am only going into the office 3-4 days/week so on the days I am home I am doing extra pumping to make up the deficit (and hopefully also boost my supply a little...). This is manageable (if a bit exhausting) while I'm only away from him 3-4 days/week, but at some point in the next couple of months I'm going to have to...
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  • @llli*e.web's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:26 AM
    My daughter will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. She was born weighing 6 pounds, 9 ounces since she was born 3 weeks early, but now she weighs 7 pounds, 13 ounces. At the beginning of my breastfeeding journey with her, I had an oversupply...my daughter was having plenty of wet and dirty diapers, but her stools were green rather than the normal yellow color. Then when she was 2 weeks old, I got a severe case of mastitis - 104 degree fever, nausea, dizziness, severe fatigue, cold sweats, sore body, etc. My lactation consultant immediately prescribed me an antibiotic, which cleared that issue right up! 3 days later, my husband was rushed to the hospital from work for an emergency appendectomy, which resulted in him having to stay home for a week. So then I had to take care of him, my 19 month old son, and my 2 week old daughter. Not to mention, I'm getting practically NO sleep at night because my girl is awake very frequently to eat, and napping during the daytime is almost impossible with a toddler running around and a house to maintain.
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  • @llli*lisa.meme's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:53 AM
    Maddieb I agree with you too, when you said that I am in a transitioning stage from a mom of a baby to a mom of a little girl. This is probably where all my feelings are coming from and like you said, also there is something unique with babyhood. I am truly grateful for moms like you who take the time to give to moms encouraging words and help who just need someone who has been there before and know what it's like to go through so many emotions when your a breastfeeding mom.
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  • @llli*lisa.meme's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:37 AM
    Mommal thank you for the last post. I had tears in my eyes. It is so true that all you want to do is bottle up those precious baby days. Yes ,I can see the fleeting days dwindling to weaning and my little one becoming a big girl. It is the hardest thing I have had to go through. It just breaks me down everyday. As a mommy we have to try hard to enjoy each stage of our childs life...but that is so easier said then done!
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