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  • @llli*orangecat88's Avatar
    Today, 08:58 AM
    My daughter is 19 months old. We actually night weaned her for the first time when she was about 8 months old. That experience would be very different than with a toddler, however over the holidays she had a long illness and basically became completely un night-weaned for about a month (during which we were brushing her teeth like 3 times per night after she nursed) and we had to do it all over again when she was 17 months. I'll just tell you about the second time.... I nurse her before she goes to sleep, but then we have a snack and brush teeth after nursing. She does use a pacifier to go to sleep. Without the pacifier I honestly have no idea how she would sleep at all so if your daughter doesn't use one this will probably be more challenging. My daughter would then wake up around midnight, but instead of nursing we lay down with her on a mattress we have on the floor and cuddle her. She has a special stuffed animal that she holds and sometimes she likes to reach down my shirt and touch my breasts briefly just to make sure their still there. From there she usually sleeps for a for few more hours with minimal drama. 4 am is where the really struggle started. She would wake up then and decide she HAD to nurse, and she can say "mommy! nurse!" too, which is heartbreaking. We just had a conversation with her and explained that nursing at night would give her teeth boo-boos and they would hurt so we have to wait until the sun is up. Honestly she threw a full on temper...
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  • @llli*rosesmum's Avatar
    Today, 07:54 AM
    I had this when I nursed my daughter and I asked here and a nursing consultant and no one had any answers for me...on the positive side it only lasted a few months and then went away. Also, it didn't effect my milk supply... Right now I'm nursing my son and the pain didn't return. Link to my old thread: http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?121152-Breast-pain&p=1341575#post1341575
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  • @llli*tasha's Avatar
    Today, 02:29 AM
    Hi and thanks so much for your reply. Put of interest how old is your daughter? How did you go about it? Did you just explain? I ended up giving up last night stereo a few hours we were both in tears. I'm pretty sure it is for comfort than being hungry and she loves breastfeeding. I feel terribly guilty stopping her and terribly guilty continuing. I think at this I will try again at the weekend as we all have to get up for work etc during the week.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:06 PM
    Without a complete weight history from birth I only have a limited understanding of what is going on, but if my math is correct, those specific numbers mean: That between the 12 and the 16th, 4 days, baby gained normally (very slightly over an ounce a day) and then in the 3 days between the 16th and the 19th, baby gained nothing. But we only know that because baby is being weighed very frequently. Another way to look at is that between the 12 and today, 7 days, baby gained 5 ounces, or an average of .71 ounces per day, which is below average but within normal parameters. One thing to consider is babies do not gain the same every day. The average total of gain of "about" 1 ounce a day is something that is measured over the first few months, not days. In other words, baby not gaining for 3 days may be entirely normal. But if you think your baby is not getting enough milk, there are several things to do. Another mom with a newborn about your baby's age is also having issues with slow gain. You might find that thread has some info you can use? Let me know if that is helpful at all. http://forums.llli.org/showthread.php?126759-Low-supply
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  • @llli*ndw11717's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:33 PM
    LO will be 5 weeks old on Tuesday, he is ebf. We purchased a scale when he was 2 weeks old because weight gain was slow so we wanted to make sure he was transferring enough so we are able to weigh as much as we want. That being said he weighed 8lbs 5oz on the 12th, 8lbs 10oz the 16th and today he is still 8lbs 10oz. Starting the 16th we let him sleep as long as he would at night (only happened one night for 5 hours), the other two nights he woke every 2-3 hours. The max he has gone during the day is 3 hours, and always acts content after feeding and usually falls asleep at the breast when he is done. Has had 12+ wet and 3-4 big dirty diapers daily. My understanding is he is getting enough milk from what he is showing and his wet and dirty diapers. I though I was starting to get the hang of this :cry . What do I do? Get back on a tighter schedule?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:43 PM
    OK thanks for answering all those questions. So given what you report, I suspect that if there is a problem, it has more to do with baby not transferring milk well and not so much about milk production. Unfortunately, since baby not transferring milk well will LEAD to low milk production even if production starts out entirely normal (or with the potential to be normal) then it is possible that low production is starting to happen or is on the horizon unless interventions are taken. Since you had IV fluids during labor which is known to inflate birth weight, and birth weight was taken on a scale baby was never weighed on again, (as is typical) I think it makes sense to simply throw the recorded birth weight out of any consideration. Normally I would keep the next weight check, but since the next weight after that was only a day later and on the same scale used from then on, my suggestion is to measure gain from January 18. Please check my math, but here is what I have: From January 18th to February 16th, a period of 29 days, baby gained a total of 1 pound 6 ounces, or 22 ounces, or an average of .75 ounces per day. This is within normal gain specifications, but it certainly would be more reassuring if baby was gaining more like an average of an ounce a day. Also gain did not seem to get more rapid, as would be typical after about 2 weeks. Instead it seems to be slowing down. Given that you have also had nipple injury and continue to have pain when nursing, I...
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  • @llli*orangecat88's Avatar
    Yesterday, 04:43 PM
    Hi, I'm sorry your going through this. I night weaned my daughter a while ago because I was afraid of decay. It was only rough for a night or two. We just explained to her that we can only nurse when the sun is up and we gave her lots of cuddles. She cried for almost the whole first night, but the next night she was basically fine and has been fine every since. Children are very adaptable, and a few rough nights will not cause any long-term harm. To ward off any nighttime hunger, we always give my daughter a big snack before she goes to bed and this seems to help. Please just remember that you are doing the right thing. A 21 month old is perfectly capable of going all night without nursing. I assume you're going to continue nursing during the day? Even if not, remember that nursing at this age has only marginal benefits, but tooth decay is very painful and may cause problems in the adult teeth. You are absolutely doing the right thing.
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  • @llli*tasha's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:12 PM
    Hi My toddler has always breastfed on demand. She has pretty bad tooth decay even if we have always brushed her teeth 3 times a day, she doesn't have juice or a bottle but she does nurse through the night. One of her teeth has almost completly disintegrated now and the three dentists we have consulted have all said that she has an enamel defect and I have to wean her ASAP, i really dont want to so i am cleaning her teeth during the day but during the night it's impossible without waking her I am currently trying to night wean her and to be honest it is breaking my heart. She is crying and miserable. I don't know how to help her with this. Can anyone give me some suggestions?
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  • @llli*laylas.momma's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:20 PM
    Thank you for all the helpful info on supplementing! I'd love further thoughts :) ...see below for answers to your questions. *Please give an exact weight check history, with day of life and corresponding number on scale. Please note whenever a different scale was used. 1/15 (birth) 8lbs 4oz 1/17 (discharge) 7lbs 6oz 1/18 (first pedi visit, different scale, not digital) 7lbs 9oz 1/20 (same scale) 8lbs 3oz 1/25 (same scale) 8lbs 5oz 1/30 (same scale) 8lbs 8oz 2/16 (same scale) 8lbs 15oz
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