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  • @llli*killiansmommy's Avatar
    Today, 04:15 PM
    Hey guys. I stopped breastfeeding my almost 2 month old about 3 weeks ago. Reason being is that we introduced a bottle once a day for about a week (with breastmilk) because I wanted him to get used to it before going back to work. After doing that it was a constant battle to get him back on the breast. He would kick and scream, latch, unlatch, continue screaming for about an hour or more EACH feeding. So I threw in the towel and decided to pump and bottle feed. At first I was pumping up to 12oz a session depending on the time of day and then the amount started going down each time. It got to where I could not get enough pumped to sustain him and started supplementing with formula after feeding him what breastmilk I could get out. And then I couldn't get any out. I know some women respond better than others to the pump but I am wondering if it is normal to be able to pump so much and then not be able to get anything? He has been on formula only for about 1 week now but today I noticed my breasts were leaking and it feels like I have clogged ducts and I was able to hand express some in the shower. Would it be safe to try and Latch him again? I've read contradicting things online about milk going bad or sour while still in the breast. Do I need to pump and dump? if I am still producing I would like him to get the benefits of my milk but I don't want him on the breast using me solely as a pacifier.
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  • @llli*lslinkard's Avatar
    Today, 12:13 PM
    I'm going through the same thing. We have had thrush since my baby was 2 weeks old as well. I was treated with diflucan which works and my son was treated with nystatin. It didn't work. I finally convinced the piediatrician to give him diflucan as well and if cleared us up. Well my son had an ear infection, got on antibiotics and the thrush returned. I'm now struggling with getting rid of it again and the doctor will not give my son the diflucan again because his toung isn't white anymore so I keep getting reinfected. It seems like an endless battle. My son will not take a bottle though so I will not be giving up breastfeeding nor do I want to but it is just so frustrating. My son is now 4 months old.
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  • @llli*lslinkard's Avatar
    Today, 12:04 PM
    My EBF baby is almost 4 months old and has always been colicky. he seems to have trouble pooping and passing gas. He fusses and pulls his legs up and grunts and strains and he will pass small amounts of gas at a time. But he always still has more making him uncomfortable. He seems to feel better after passing gas or having a large poop. What can I do to help him? I've asked his piediatrician about it and she doesn't seem concerned. She says it is normal and he will get it figured out in time. He's gaining weight and thriving otherwise I just want to help him not be in pain and uncomfortable. He's such a happy baby when he isn't so gassy. Also, I've tried food elimination and that doesn't seem to help him either.
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  • @llli*djs.mom's Avatar
    Today, 09:56 AM
    Ventian Violet often works when the anti-biotics don't or won't. Or will work in combinataion with them. I am going to have Carm come talk to you. She and her 2nd baby had it pretty continuously for the 1st few months. Please don't give up. If your baby is happy and healthy and it's not bothering him, don't let it be the reason you quit nursing. And don't focus on a remedy that your docotor is hesitant to give you. If the doctor is concerned that your child is too young or there are possible side effects-take that advice. Especially if NEITHER of you are experiencing pain or symptoms right now and you ARE being treated. I would 2nd the reccomendation to see an IBCLC simply because you are putting a lot of thought and worry into his white tongue and it could be thrush, but it could not be. Either way, if it is thrush, adding Venitian Violet to the mix can't hurt. Although you will both probably be a little purple for a bit.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:53 AM
    No.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:46 AM
    Great. Keep advocating for your self. Too often moms have to fight to get the care they and baby need. But it is a fight worth waging. A breastfed baby cannot overeat in the sense that breastfeeding, being the biologically normal feeding method, in no way leads to obesity or any other health concern, while there is evidence bottle feeding might. Also, breastfed babies learn to control flow and thus intake at the breast, and a bottle fed baby will not be able to control the milk flow from a bottle and thus may be overfed if caregiver is not giving the bottle in a breastfeeding supportive method. But when a baby is a newborn and not yet able to control flow very well, and mom is making lots of milk causing a forceful letdown, this can certainly lead to baby getting lots of milk all at once and spitting up that milk and it can be quite dramatic. My oldest once had a spit up like that all over a him, me, and a friends leather couch. Ugh. That time was memorable because of the couch, but this happened several times. I am glad you brought your baby to the doctor so they could ascertain nothing was actually wring with baby. To help baby with the fast letdown, frequent nursing helps, positioning baby so baby is more on top of you while baby nurses helps, and holding baby upright for at least a half hour after nursing helps. In fact most newborns are most comfortable and content being held by an adult, snuggled against a chest or shoulder, with their head above their...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 09:26 AM
    Yes, as far as I know a plug can last indefinitely if the issue is not addressed. I believe that the reason this one is lasting so long is that you are allowing your breast to continuously get so full that it is actually getting hard- engorged. There are many reasons to try to avoid engorgement. To avoid discomfort, to avoid or resolve plugs, and to avoid mastitis, you want milk to be removed from the breast often enough that you do not become so full and hard. Also, continued fullness like this is telling your body to make less milk. If you have OP, then that is a message you may want your body to get, however, you want to be in control of how full the breast gets and for how long. Going so long with regular daily fullness of several hours overnight is likely to reduce production too much, unless mom was making way to much to start. And even then, it is not a situation you want to go on and on. I understand your baby gags and is not wanting to nurse at the hard breast. But this is another reason why you want to do what is necessary to (as much as you possibly can) prevent the breast from becoming so engorged baby is having this trouble! It may take several days of working on this before you can easily get baby to nurse more overnight on that one side, but since baby is perfectly capable of nursing on that side other times, this is certainly possible. I understand your baby is already nursing every 2-3 hours. I am saying it sounds to me as if you need to...
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  • @llli*vedimama's Avatar
    Today, 07:52 AM
    I avoid nursing from that side during night since she almost always gags and refuses that side (only during night time) may be because it is a little firm and hard. During day time however i do nurse from that side, but i do have hand express before nursing to decrease the firmness. (I am hoping now my supply has gotten adjusted and hand expressing wont cause supply to increase) I am nursing frequently (2 hrs during the day and from night 9pm to morning 8am it is every 3 hrs) I have tried some of the options listed in the article attached, but I still feel the lump. Is it normal for it to continue for so long?
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  • @llli*jabez's Avatar
    Today, 02:11 AM
    Just a quick check - do i need to wash my (.)(.) when i pump after nursing?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:41 PM
    Yes. While a plug might clog one duct (passageway)within the breast, mom has many. And ducts are not the same thing as nipple pores where the milk actually comes out (although these can sometimes be blocked as well, in which case it would probably present as a bleb.) Nipple pores vary in number so you could see milk coming from several even if one pore was completely blocked. Also, a milk duct might be plugged but some milk still can come through. Sometimes the plug is like a dam with places the milk can come through, but more slowly, and other times acts more like a totally blocked tunnel. In either case, although not an emergency, it is probably best to be proactive in trying to release any plugs and practice prevention going forward. Are you avoiding nursing from that side so you will get very full, telling your body to reduce milk production? Of for some other reason? Generally when dealing with a plug, mom wants to avoid the breast becoming too full, usually by encouraging baby to nurse more frequently. If baby is having trouble latching onto or with the fast flow with a very full breast, nursing frequently helps prevent that problem as well. Here are other plug ideas: http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/17_dealingwithplugsblebs.pdf
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  • @llli*vedimama's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:04 PM
    Hi, thanks for replying. I can still feel a ball kind of lump inside the right breast. I am nursing from that side too, however i have to hand express for a few minutes to cause it to soften before i start nursing, else it feels little hard my lil one gags when starting to nurse. when i do hand express milk does flow and flows fast and sprays 4-5 ways. would this be called a plugged duct still? As i mentioned in the earlier post, pumping output from this side was low. I havent tried pumping again. It doesnt hurt while breast feeding but when i hand express i can feel the pinch. At night I avoid feeding from that side since it becomes full with the longer gap between night feedings. Any help to resolve the issue is appreciated
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:59 AM
    Actually I now recall this has been reported before. I think the culture of the particular institution may just be getting passed on by everyone connected with it. If the LC and midwife were from two different places, then I have no idea. Unfortunately what seems like a benign suggestion can cause so many issues. The results of OP can range from a bit of a bother to a serious health issues (for mom) so telling a mom to pump to build a stash is potentially dangerous. Also it implies that all moms will not be able to nurse their babies long term and so need to stash tons of milk in the freezer! Of course this is not true and even moms who will need a stash because they are going back to work only need enough for the first day, plus a "cushion."
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 09:49 AM
    great. I suggest bring pump to the consult as well, as she can give you tips on that. Most IBCLCs are also very familiar with alternative feeding methods (such as bottles) and so she may have ideas on that for you and your caregiver as well. Since the reduced rate of gain happened well prior to baby moving to the crib, it was obviously not caused by that. On the other hand, usually the simplest method to improve weight gain is to increase nursing frequency. If you are liking that longer sleep stretch the crib is giving you right now (and who wouldn't) maybe you can find other times to encourage baby to nurse more. Also be aware that sleep patterns do change and sometimes sleep stretches get short again for periods of time. This is normal and not a reason to be more alarmed.
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:02 AM
    Thanks so much for the updates! Your experience may well be the a-ha moment for other moms to get their levels checked if they're seeing the same kinds of signs. I'm so glad to hear treatment is working and breastfeeding is going better! :gvibes
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:53 AM
    It certainly sounds like you had plugged duct there. :huh I realize this post was from a couple of weeks ago, so hopefully the situation has resolved by now. How are you feeling?
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:48 AM
    Welcome, destwards! I'm afraid your post got overlooked initially because it was attached to the end of an older thread. Sorry about that! Are you home with your little one now? How are things going?
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  • @llli*lllkaren's Avatar
    Yesterday, 07:23 AM
    With gradual weaning and no engorgement, you may not get any plugged ducts. If you hand express often, that's signaling to your body that there's still a demand, so your breasts will keep producing milk. I'd suggest not expressing unless you start feeling uncomfortably full, and then express just enough to ease the discomfort, or if you feel like you're starting to get a clog. Most moms can express a little bit of milk for months or even years after weaning. You mentioned you're pregnant? How far along? Most moms see their supplies decrease or disappear at some point during the first or second trimester, so hormones might take care of the problem for you.
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  • @llli*ilikefood's Avatar
    Yesterday, 02:29 AM
    Baby has not been great with bottles from the start (I had to try many many different bottles/nipples to find one he would actually take). The past week while away from he me will sometimes take a bottle when hungry but he does prefer the breast so in order to be fed caretaker is feeding him when groggy so he intakes enough milk. He was cosleeping and I would offer whenever he was stirring and nuzzling and it tended to be every 2 hours. Just started putting baby in the crib two days ago and he has been feeding after one 5 hour stretch then every 3 hours until the morning. But yes he does get easily distracted now that he is more aware of everything going on around him. I am not sure about his slow weight gain the only difference is that I went back to work and the first 2-3 weeks he didn't drink much during the day. The weight check was done by the same doctor on the same scale so I am assuming it's consistent and accurate. I will definitely contact a lactation consultant because I am worried about low production. Thanks for the info!
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 11:11 PM
    Ok, for a 10 hour separation, a baby typically will take about 10-15 ounces. So it does not sound like baby is being overfed overall, or at least not by much. But 4-5 ounces sounds a little high for an individual meal. And I do wonder about them feeding baby mostly when he is groggy, that is a little strange, assuming he is a healthy baby and he will take a bottle when hungry, why are they doing that? If your caregivers are not following guidelines for bottle feeding a breastfed baby maybe you can instruct them on that. Here is more info: http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/22_bfabreastfedbaby.pdf and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH4T70OSzGs&t=43s 5 hours would be considered sleeping through the night. So, one 5 hour sleep stretch in 24 hours at this age is probably normal. If there is more than one that might be a sign baby could nurse more often. This is normal. Remember, especially if you are concerned about baby's gain, it never hurts to offer to nurse. Cue feeding does not mean wait until baby cues to offer to nurse, it means, nurse when baby is indicating they want and also, offer any other times you feel like it. A baby cannot nurse too often, and offering allows baby to decide yes or no, even when they are getting busy and distracted as they are waking up to the world as is typical at this age. Also at night, maybe try to avoid or do not adopt any sleep lengthening strategies, in order to gently encourage baby to nurse more...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 10:48 PM
    Yes I doubted you would want to add another session. If in 15 minute sessions you are getting more than baby needs, maybe you could reduce the session length slightly without adding another session. Here are a couple other thoughts. Could you hand express instead for part of the time or for one session a day? Another thought is, if you are pumping on the lowest setting and getting injured, maybe the issue is with the pump motor. This happens. Is your pump new or older? Can you contact the manufacturer and see if they have troubleshooting suggestions or a way to test the suction on your pump? Or can you try a different pump? Another thought is, assuming you are double pumping, maybe try single side pumping. I am wondering if you could get your breasts aligned more comfortably with the pump flange if you pumped one at a time.
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  • @llli*ilikefood's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 07:34 PM
    Before I got mastitis I was pumping 4oz combined each time. Now I pump 1-3oz. This is barely enough for him because when he is bottle fed he usually drinks 4-5oz each time. I'm told he drinks between 12-16oz while I'm gone which is from 7am-5:30pm. Often times he won't drink a bottle awake unless he is very hungry so he is fed when he is groggy/sleepy a lot of the time. Should I have his caretaker only feed him when he's awake so he will nurse more from me when I get home? During the day he sometimes feeds every 2 hours sometimes every 4. During the night he can go 3-5 hours between feedings. Feeding times seems to change depending on the day. From his 3 month doctor visit he was 12lb 10oz and at the 4 month he was 13lb 5oz. His weight gain had slowed down. The main thing that changed was that I went back to work and he started bottle feeding. Dr suggested baby cereal after feedings to help his weight gain but I'd rather wait on any foods until he is a bit older.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 07:09 PM
    Can you explain why you think your milk production is now below normal levels? Many moms experience differences in pump output for many reasons, but it does not always mean a mom has low milk production. Also, if you made more than enough milk for your baby previously, it would be normal for milk production to decrease to enough rather than too much anytime after 6 weeks. Most moms notice this happening around 3-4 months. No. It is best to pump as often as you need to in order to be comfortable (not feeling full) and also to express the amount of milk baby is drinking from bottles each day. When you say baby is going longer between nursing sessions, what do you mean exactly? At this age a baby would still be typically nursing 8-12 times in 24 hours, although some babies nurse a little less often and it is fine. When a baby is bottle fed part of the day, in general you want to try to make sure that overall, baby is getting more from nursing than from bottles. So for example, if a baby gets 3 bottles a day, it would be great if baby nursed more than that, so like 5-6 times a day (or more.) When bottles are more common than nursing, baby may begin to become habituated to bottles and become reluctant to nurse.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 07:00 PM
    An IBCLC is the only professional who is trained in assessing and solving breastfeeding issues. So yes, I think it is most likely to be helpful to see an IBCLC. Breastfeeding issues are tricky, as you have discovered, and of course not every IBCLC is great and not every one is going to be the right fit for you. But you can say that about any profession. Here is an article about what a consult with a good IBCLC would basically consist of: http://www.cwgenna.com/lconsult.html Before hiring an IBCLC you can talk to her about her experience with the issues you are having, her methods, etc. Thrush classically presents as white blotches or patches that can be rubbed or gently scratched off, presenting as red or bloody underneath. Some babies just have a white tongue surface. I do not know if it is from milk or not, but in my experience it does not always just rub off. If you pump and bottle feed, of course be aware how carefully you would have to clean the pump, the bottles, the nipples, etc. Also be careful as several days of no nursing at all might lead to breast refusal. Also, if you are right and your baby has thrush that is going essentially untreated, what good is it going to do? I would strongly suggest seeing an IBCLC if that is at all possible before trying this idea. If you do not know how to find an IBCLC locally let me know.
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  • @llli*ilikefood's Avatar
    May 26th, 2017, 06:37 PM
    Hello I have a 17 week old and I am nursing when I'm with him and pumping while I'm at work. I ended up with mastitis and a fever for 24 hours about 2 weeks ago. Mastitis was in my left breast and of course it's the one that produces the most. I power pumped and that worked to increase my supply but the next day it dropped again. Do I need to continue to power pump daily to bring my supply back up again? Currently on my 4 work days I pump at 6:30, 9:30, 12, 3:30. Then I nurse him as needed when I'm home. On my days off I normally don't pump but am wondering if I need to in order to increase supply. He is also going longer between feedings, do I need to adjust my pumping to match his new feeding schedule?
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