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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 12:57 PM
    Ok so I see baby nurses overnight, and during the day, and the total is about 6-7 times in 24 hours. So this may be enough but since baby is going so long without eating during the day right now, if you not already doing so, I would suggest consider waking baby when you come home if that is needed in order to get one more nursing session in. Sometimes baby will just nurse without waking as well. If that is not a good time for you to offer, you can try a different time. ... Ok for a 9 hour separation 9 ounces is normal/expected from newborn period on. As baby ages and growth rate slows, baby tends to not be as hungry, so some drop off in that amount around this age would probably just be normal. A more dramatic drop off as you have seen might be related to many things, and my even be temporary. As long as baby continues to nurse lots when you are together this should be fine. You do not mention pumping, but I assume you are continuing to pump at work with the frequency you did before? For dad, I have a couple suggestions aside try a regular cup. 1, whenever HE (dad) eats, offer baby some of whatever dad is eating. Babies learn to eat by mimicking. It is ok if he does not eat anything, but I think it is important to keep offering. Offering just means putting food on front of baby in a form he can safely eat it. A 9 month old is capable of picking food up and biting and chewing, so while you to not want hard stuff, baby can handle needing to bite and chew as long as...
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  • @llli*julienne02's Avatar
    Today, 11:55 AM
    I am away from 12:30-9:30 pm , but he goes to bed at 7:15. He was eating 9.5 ounces per day. Yesterday he only ate two ounces. He does get fussy after a while, from being hungry, but he doesn't want to eat. Yeah, no go on the sippy cup. I keep offering different foods, he isn't into any of them except he likes peanut butter pretty well. He doesn't even put things into his mouth usually, and doesn't like us putting things near or into his mouth so it is difficult to get him to taste things willingly. I am not worried about him being too small, just that he didn't gain much weight between his six and nine month checkups, maybe half or 3/4 lb. My main concern is the sanity of my husband who has to deal with the fussy baby that results after several hours of not eating. I am hoping it is just a phase. He nurses at least three times during the night before wake up, and 3-4 times in the morning before I go to work.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Today, 10:08 AM
    Are you certain your pump is working correctly and you are nursing or pumping often enough? What would be more concerning is how you got the plugs in the first place, as non-optimal milk removal is the primary cause. Non-optimal milk removal is the primary cause of low milk production as well, so that would be the connection that would be most likely. While plugs might make it hard to pump as much while present, once they have cleared, they should no longer have any impact on milk removal nor milk production. You mean leaning or kneeling on hands and feet over baby? I have also had good success with this when I have had plugs, but not sure if that is what you mean. Heat is purported to help milk flow, but because it can increase inflammation, it is no longer suggested for direct application to the breasts in most cases of plugs (some moms do find it helps of course) but what is more suggested now is cold on the breasts to relieve inflammation and, if needed, heat on the back or shoulders. Good overall tips on plugs: http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/17_dealingwithplugsblebs.pdf
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  • @llli*jabez's Avatar
    Today, 04:11 AM
    Hello, Yesterday, I had lumps on my right breast and it was painful to move or to lift my right arms. Even though I tried warm and cold massage multiple times, the pain progressed throughout the day and my breast slowly felt like a rock. Pumping and nursing were initially unbearable. In the afternoon, I tried nursing on inverted position and it miraculously worked wonders on my breast. My right breast didn't have any more lumps and it felt that it was really relieved of any clogged ducts. Although, there is a white spot on my nipple but it doesn't hurt or there's no more pain when pumping or nursing. After that, I pumped as normal however, my pump output have been considerably low than normal. It is already low to begin with. Now, it's depressingly low. With a 2 hour gap, I normally would be able to express around 30ml and with a 3 hour gap, I around 50-60ml. Now, with a 3 hour gap, i would only be able to get 30ml. :( Help? Thanks in advance.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:10 PM
    You sound like an a mom experienced with baby poop. Is this your first baby? "Brownish" could be entirely normal, sometimes it takes a little longer for poops to transition, also sometimes it depends on how you define "brownish." "Seedy" is a common look but not a requirement for typical breastmilk poop. What is more important is how much baby is pooping. How many times is baby pooping in 24 hours, and how much is there when baby poops? If you had to scoop it up, would you use a teaspoon, a tablespoon or a ladle? (If that visual does not work for you choose your own, just use something generally familiar.) Also, are the poops very moist, loose, liquidy? Or still very sticky, tarry? And how many times in 24 hours is baby nursing? Every two hours would mean 12 times, which would be normal frequency. But is this total number approximately correct?
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 08:01 PM
    How many hours are you away from home and how many ounces was baby eating during you work hours before he stopped taking a bottle? Is he fussy, seeming miserable and hungry, or generally happy? It is entirely possible your baby is getting enough milk while with you if baby nurses often enough. So I would say there is probably no reason to stress about this if baby is overall healthy. Baby being on the smaller side is not in any way a problem either, what you would want to be careful about would be a big drop in gain rate, or baby not gaining at all. Baby actually losing weight would be potentially quite serious. and still no go? Your husband could also try an open cup, and continue to offer solids in a variety of tastes and textures.
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  • @llli*fortheloveofboys's Avatar
    Yesterday, 06:36 PM
    My 7 day old is still having pretty brownish stools. He feeds 15-20 minutes every 2 hours sometimes a little less and refuses to take the breast again. Im wondering if he is getting what he needs. Having wet diapers but not completely saturated. Very confused Doctors appt on Tuesday to check weight gain. Any advice is deeply appreciated
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  • @llli*julienne02's Avatar
    Yesterday, 03:05 PM
    Hello, I am hoping for some suggestions. My 9 month old has happily taken a bottle since I went back to work at 4.5 months, but the last couple weeks has been not very interested, some days only eating two instead of three. Today he is pretty much refusing it altogether. He seems interested but takes a couple sips and then doesn't want it. My husband has also tried the milk in a sippy cup today. He doesn't eat solids yet (not interested). He figured out how to scoot around on his belly a few weeks ago. I am just wondering if this might be a phase or he has just decided he doesn't want a bottle anymore at all? He nurses fine when I am home, every hour and half or two hours. Suggestions on how to get him to eat? He is not a big baby, under 10th percentile in weight.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:32 PM
    Spit up is normal. Pain while spitting up might indicate reflux. Crying while nursing could indicate any number of things. Very young babies should probably not be ingesting anything other than breastmilk, infant formula (if they are not breastfed) or medicines approved by doctor. I know people give their babies gripe water for colic, I did myself with my oldest, and I assume that is similar to what is in this "tea?" But even with the gripe water, the recommended dose was so much it was potentially a problem if given too often. (could fill baby up on something with no nutrients.) Later I learned research does not indicate gripe water helps with digestive issues. Neither do gas drops. There is some evidence probiotics help in some cases. Additionally, herbal ingredients are not always "safe." In fact, due to lack of regulation I would be very cautious about direct ingestion of any herbal product for a very young child. For example: http://www.webmd.com/parenting/baby/news/20041112/herbal-tea-for-infant-colic-unsafe This does not mean a nursing mom should not take a medicinal herbs. Many moms take herbal galagtagogues and their milk is perfectly safe for baby. But whenever medicinal herbs are used, it is important to research the potential side effects. Interestingly I cannot find an ingredient list on that baby tea website. Plenty of misinformation about colic, infant behavior and breastmilk though.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:12 PM
    Hi world wanderer. Mommal has not been able to check on the forum as much lately due to busy life and probably missed your response, and I missed it too. Since it has been a couple of weeks, can you tell us what is going on now? Any changes from when you last posted? Thanks.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 01:08 PM
    Most commonly, those are signs that the milk flow is a little fast for baby. Things that help with fast letdown- try leaning back position (baby kind of on top) to nurse, encourage baby to nurse more often, (usually very helpful.) Or, you can try taking baby off when baby does this and let milk flow into a cloth for a few moments then put baby back on, and/or express a little milk before baby nurses. You also can just let baby figure it out. It depends how much it is really bothering baby. Fast flow is something your baby can usually learn to deal with just fine, unless it is really fast or baby has some kind of latch or sucking problem.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:42 AM
    Unfortunately, it is entirely possible tongue tie was "missed" by your doctor. Many doctors think that tongue tie does not matter in infancy and that it would only be an issue if speech or eating issues occurred later. You can find info online about tongue tie and breastfeeding but it is a tricky area because diagnoses is tricky (there are different types of tongue tie that cause nursing pain) and also treatment does not always help with nursing pain. But if you see another LC you two can talk about that. I think seeing someone else makes sense if that is possible. I am not saying your first LC was wrong, but it does sound like there was a lack of communication there and your instincts and the facts seem to point to a latch issue, so that is what you would want your LC to be working with you on at least until every other possibility has been addressed. While a LC can certainly gather information while watching a baby nurse, there is no way to tell a latch is "fine" ONLY by how it looks when baby nurses. Here is an article that suggests what should happen at a consult with an LC: http://www.cwgenna.com/lconsult.html The LC who wrote that is an expert on latch issues so you can poke around her site and see if anything helps. Have you tried nursing in a leaning back position- in a relaxed, supported position, leaning back for example, against the couch back or a pile of pillows, with baby more on top of you? This type of positioning often helps a good deal with...
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  • @llli*vedimama's Avatar
    Yesterday, 11:21 AM
    While feeding, sometimes she coughs and adjusts her throat a lot. Seems like she has some discomfort doing that. What could the reason be? sometimes after a while after feeding she makes gagging in the mouth type actions , but nothing happens/comes out
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  • @llli*tobysmom's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 09:48 PM
    (I should clarify that I said baby doesn't have a tongue tie... rather I don't think baby has a tongue tie. I asked the doctor to check and was told there wasn't one. Could be that something was missed but I would hope not.)
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  • @llli*tobysmom's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 09:31 PM
    Thank you so much for the detailed reply! That's exactly what I was thinking about the latch which is why I went to see the lactation consultant--I was surprised when she didn't see a problem after watching baby eat and I wasn't sure what to say in response to the nipple/palate comment. I actually feel better because it sounds like this is something I can still work on without having to move backwards---I think maybe I will seek out a different LC for another try at help. I'll also check into the cultures to rule out anything bacterial--I didn't realize that can be there without any big symptoms. I don't think it's an issue of being too full--sometimes I am too full first thing in the morning because baby's sleep patterns haven't gotten predictable yet, but it doesn't seem to be an issue for baby eating then and my supply is well regulated during the day. Baby does not have a tongue tie. As far as working on latch, I've tried the basic positions--cradle, cross cradle, side lying, football. Cradle is the worst for pain and football is the best (if not comfortable at least more bearable). So I've been focusing on trying to make that one work and follow videos on proper latch. Baby also first latched without the shield in the football position so I think maybe that one allows him a better hold. I have trouble getting it to work when out and about though so often find myself trying to deal with cross cradle or be stuck on my couch. :/ I've done the breast sandwich. ...
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 08:25 PM
    Hi tobysmom, I am sorry you are having this problem. Is it possible there was a misunderstanding here? Nipples becoming cracked and sore is almost always a sign of a latch problem. The nipple shape you are seeing after your baby nurses is also a common indication of shallow latch. Also, if the problem is not latch, why are you being told to pump to elongate the nipple? That is a method to improve latch. It certainly has no other purpose. Also, if your nipple is "too short" again the only problem with that, is it might cause a poor latch! I mean, too short for what? This means, too short for baby to latch onto properly! I have a question with this idea I will get into below, but that is what 'too short' would mean. As far as your baby having a hard palate, I have no idea what this means. All babies like all adults have both a soft and hard palate. The trick with latch is to get the nipple back to the soft palate. And this can happen even with short nipples and with brand newborns with tiny mouths so it can certainly happen if your baby is 4 months old.
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  • @llli*tobysmom's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 04:40 PM
    First time mom with a four month old baby. Exclusively pumped for six weeks following a NICU stay at birth (born a month early), then transitioned to a nipple shield eventually because baby would not latch without it. At 15 weeks, baby all of sudden latched without the shield and we were elated! :clap Baby has been nursing without the shield for three weeks and is doing great--weight gain is good, lactation consultants have confirmed he is eating 70-100 ml each feeding, which is plenty, and baby seems happy and more comforted by the breast. Went from 30 minute feedings to being done in 8-10min. However...mama is not doing well. Without the shield I have been having extreme nipple soreness. It is worse on one side than the other, and worst with the initial latch although it hurts throughout the nursing session on both sides. Both nipples are cracked. On the side with the most pain the nipple often is lipstick shaped or a little flat after nursing, which made me question the latch but I went to the lactation consultant this week and they thought the latch looked good and that wasn't the issue. Suggestions were to pump 5 minutes before each feeding to elongate the nipple (apparently I have a fairly short small nipple and baby has a hard palate) or to go back to using the shield. I'm resisting the idea of pumping because of the logistics involved and making it more difficult to feed baby on demand, plus washing all those pump pieces. Would hate to go back to the nipple shield...
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  • @llli*mmomm1's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 11:58 AM
    During the day, pump every 2 to 3 hours. During the night, get up and pump no later than every 4 hours. This happens a lot to moms that exclusively pump. You definitely need to try something herbal. Try drinking healthy nursing tea. It has a combination of herbs. By drinking it I was able to pump 4 to 5 ounces at a time instead of 1/2 ounce. Make sure to pump often and give anything you try time to work. Hang in there!
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  • @llli*mmomm1's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 11:54 AM
    my baby had reflux and he got so bad he would cry in the middle of a feeding, and i am talking CRYING hysterically the doctor put him on Prilosec and it seemed to be working. but he still was spiting up a lot but at least the crying stopped. the real difference made by baby magic tea and now his symptoms almost vanish!!!
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  • @llli*crr.2017's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 01:42 AM
    Okay, thank you.
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  • @llli*crr.2017's Avatar
    April 22nd, 2017, 01:41 AM
    Thank you.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    April 21st, 2017, 10:14 PM
    I am sorry to say it again, but this again sounds normal! This is how newborns behave. There is nothing wrong with a baby who behaves this way. You, mom, may need and can get breaks. Someone else can take your baby and comfort them while you get a break. I found what worked well for my family is I nursed baby then my husband took baby and "walked baby down". Eventually we just got him his own sling to wear baby in so we did not have to keep adjusting the one for our different bodies. Evenings were spent playing "pass the baby." This arrangement or something similar is pretty typical especially during the early months.
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  • @llli*maddieb's Avatar
    April 21st, 2017, 10:09 PM
    This all sounds pretty normal. When healthy babies this age scream for hours and will not even comfort by nursing, that is probably colic. There is not much you can do about colic except try everything you can think of and see if anything helps. Colic is difficult but temporary. These tip sheets both have ideas that may help: http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/09_fussybabyideas.pdf and http://www.llli.org/docs/0000000000000001WAB/WAB_Tear_sheet_Toolkit/10_what_about_partners.pdf
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